Posted on 03/12/2009 1:22:58 PM PDT by lewisglad
Sarah Palins teenage daughter angrily denounced reports today that she was to blame for breaking up with the father of her two-month-old son.
Bristol Palin, the daughter of last years controversial Republican vice-presidential candidate, responded after it emerged that she and her fiancé, Levi Johnston, had split up.
The story first emerged in the tabloid Star magazine, which quoted Mr Johnstons sister Mercedes saying that Ms Palin and her mother were to blame for the break-up. The couple had been due to marry this summer.
Levi tries to see Tripp every single day, but Bristol makes it nearly impossible, Mercedes Johnston is quoted as saying.
She tells him he cant take the baby to our house because she doesnt want him around white trash. The worst part, Ms Johnston tells the magazine, is that Governor Palin supports her daughters treatment of Mr Johnston.
Ms Palin said in a statement issued through her mothers political action committee that she was devastated by the report in Star. Unfortunately, my family has seen many people say and do things to cash in on the Palin name. Sometimes that greed clouds good judgment and the truth.
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This post of yours is a classic example of several points of view that show poor judgment. Im glad a few FReepers have come on to let you know that.I'll just let the numbers speak for themselves.
Assuming your statistics are correct, what is your solution? Forced abortions? Government approval of all pregnancies?
You're one scary guy and I think you're posting on the wrong forum.
No she doesn’t or she wouldn’t keep opening her mouth so that everyone knows.
You did, and I quoted you.
Look, it's obvious that you're anti-Palin and are using her daughter to trash her politically. That is ugly beyond belief.
So, what do you think of Palin's political positions?
Neither of those girls is Bristol Palin.
mrs
Bravo!
Amazingly, it seems I am in before your zot.
You are extremely rude but I will give you the benefit of the doubt and am pinging my sister to this thread. She's an RN and councils pregnant women.
Sis, I would appreciate your input on this.
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Several of our most trusted news sources erred on these photos as well. We regret the mistake and are sorry for any offense it caused anyone.
At our Crisis Pregnancy Clinic, we have a lot of clients on the pill that get pregnant and even more that use condoms. That's why teaching "safe sex" is not effective.
Oh I have faith. But seeing the actions of some of the piranha conservatives here is making me lose some- faith in conservatives, that is.
1) Its the culture of the people today. They love scandal even if its about one of their own, which is why the stupid reality TV programs have a huge audience, and why these scandal post generate 200 to 300 replies or more. Eating our own for a little entertainment.
2) Could be someone who supported another Republican candidate that is jealous of the attention paid to Palin who shoved their candidate off the radar screen.
3) Trolls, trying to destroy Palins and the Republicans chances in 2012.
My question to the Freepers who said to themselves, I just gotta post this on FR, Which one are you? 1, 2, or 3? Think about it.
In this post you sound like an echo of Obama-—to quote him-—If one of his girls make a mistake, he doesn’t think she should be “punished” with a baby.
Jean, you seem to know quite a bit more about the real facts regarding condoms and birth control pills. Thanks.
I was a counselor in Natural Family Planning for many years
and to be certificated we had to know a lot about all forms of artificial contraceptives. What’s more, we had to know a considerable amount human fertility—male and female.
Sudeten—you are very cavalier in your seminar approach to how to avoid accidental pregnancies. What is missing is all the important data about the contraindications and/or lack of effectiveness of various forms of contraceptives.
The way the full spectrum birth control pilll works not only can have some sobering side effects on the female body, but also can act —in full spectrum— as an early, silent abortifacient. That also has a negative side effect on the female body. There are also possible consequences for the baby that is conceived while the mother is taking the pill. For some reason, this is rarely made known.
Also, there are psychological consequences with the use of artificial contraceptives that people using and promoting them rarely fail to disclose or address realistically.
You have presented statistics on this thread. I could present hands-on anecdotal experience. I tend to place more value on my experience of many years than on the cold statistics.
“Adults are supposed to exercise a little self-control and responsibility”. I can assure you that using NFP is an exercise in both.
Since “accidents” can happen under any circumstance, the only proper response is to welcome and love that child.
You come across as a self-righteous, finger-pointing, intrusive and judgmental person...the kind that is always seeing what everyone else is doing wrong.
I’m a conservative myself and you don’t represent me or my core values in any way. And I would not resort to calling Bristol Palin a “tramp” as you have.
"In this post you sound like an echo of Obama-to quote him-If one of his girls make a mistake, he doesnt think she should be punished with a baby.Strawman argument never said anything about "punished;"the question here is about parental responsibility (Sarah's) and judgment (again Sarah's). Either her family is very unlucky or she was negligent in one or both cases.
"Sudetenyou are very cavalier in your seminar approach to how to avoid accidental pregnancies. What is missing is all the important data about the contraindications and/or lack of effectiveness of various forms of contraceptives."Abstinence does remain a 100% effective tool to prevent unwanted pregnancy. While it is true about the possible side effects of the pill, they have proven in a vast majority of cases to be safe and effective.
"Since accidents can happen under any circumstance, the only proper response is to welcome and love that child."Another strawman argument...never said otherwise. Yes accidents happen and if they do, you make the best of it and raise the child with all the love and care it deserves, but they remain the exception; not the rule.
"You come across as a self-righteous, finger-pointing, intrusive and judgmental person...the kind that is always seeing what everyone else is doing wrong. Im a conservative myself and you dont represent me or my core values in any way. And I would not resort to calling Bristol Palin a tramp as you have."That's your opinion and you are welcome to it. The fact remains if you claim to be a Conservative, then you must condemn immoral behavior.
Seems to me that would be good advice for Bristol. She's obviously trying to control her 'baby daddy'.
"I am not suggesting its all Levis fault either."
It's pretty easy to see who wants to be the boss of that new little family.
Wonder if somebody modeled that behavior for her or if she just comes by it naturally?
I never once said I was for or against Sarah Palin.
I have addressed only the issue of the over-arching claims you made about women over 40 having children and your over-arching condemnation of an 18-year old girl and her mother.
Your assumption that I addressed it from a political approach is your own version of a straw man.
Of course. So what's your point as regards Sarah having a baby at that age? You seem to be criticizing her - on what basis? And specifically, what SHOULD she have done?
You can make all of the excuses you choose
Excuses for what? I only asked what you thought she should have done about her pregnancy and about Bristol's, and I've challenged you to use your head and realize that kids don't always do what they have been taught.
but she is not the person I would have as President of the United States. She has demonstrated poor judgment repeatedly.
What other 'poor judgment' has she exhibited besides these two things, which you haven't really justified as being disqualifications for the Presidency? Give me some specifics regarding how she has governed.
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