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To the moon, troll, to the moon!

Posted on 11/19/2008 1:26:03 PM PST by CHR

Edited on 11/30/2008 5:15:14 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

During the cold war, JFK claimed to have gone to the moon. He got congress to spend billions on his moon landing and pretended america landed there, convincing congress to give him billions, the fakeness of the landing is well documented.

It seems to me that this liberal moneybags, that he took these billions for personal use, or maybe gave them to the USSR (we all know he was soft on communism)

Perhaps his death was similarly staged in order to keep his billions or keep congress of his case.

I wonder if under an obama administration we will see more moon landings.


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To: sionnsar

Very interesting. I’m inclined to be creative with timing when I sing, which annoys one’s accompanist.


901 posted on 12/08/2008 6:48:09 PM PST by Tax-chick (All I want for Christmas is the giant plush microbes from ThinkGeek.com.)
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To: NicknamedBob

The combine-harvester finally came around today and cleared a couple of soybean fields near my subdivision. We wondered if they’d given up on what seemed like pretty nice crops. Maybe the guy with the combine had the flu or something.


902 posted on 12/08/2008 6:49:28 PM PST by Tax-chick (All I want for Christmas is the giant plush microbes from ThinkGeek.com.)
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To: NicknamedBob
Now, if this does not constitute reliable evidence for you that men walked on the moon, it should at least demonstrate that we were able to soft-land “something” on the moon. But we had men back then who were willing to dare. And willing to try, and do, and die if need be. ... they were daring men.

I believe what you're saying and I believe our astronauts were brave men and women - the early ones often test pilots - people who routinely put their lives on the line for their country. The only part I'm disputing is the actual moon landing. I'm not trying to convince anyone... and 99.999999999999999% of Americans agree with you. I watched many of the early take-offs - and was glued to the TV for the splashdowns. Took my kids to the Kennedy Space Center to look at the moon rocks... I'm not some anti-science person. I just don't believe we had the technology to land the craft and take off. It's not personal.

903 posted on 12/08/2008 6:51:01 PM PST by GOPJ (Perverse incentives birth nasty unintended consequences.)
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To: Tax-chick

Tempo molto rubato ?


904 posted on 12/08/2008 6:53:02 PM PST by ThomasThomas (Those who live by the sword get shot.)
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To: Tax-chick; fanfan
Very interesting. I’m inclined to be creative with timing when I sing, which annoys one’s accompanist.

Solo piping is the only place one can get away with that. My years with bands brought that home -- but in defense of the Canadian school of piping, they field North America's best pipe bands and even win global championships from time to time.

905 posted on 12/08/2008 6:53:37 PM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: ThomasThomas

And Gregorian Chant.


906 posted on 12/08/2008 6:58:52 PM PST by Tax-chick (All I want for Christmas is the giant plush microbes from ThinkGeek.com.)
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To: sionnsar
Otherwise I will have to just stand here tapping my foot and quietly practice my bagpipe. (Can't post my graphic of that because I can't get to it from work.)

LOL - I get the picture!

907 posted on 12/08/2008 7:02:15 PM PST by GOPJ (Perverse incentives birth nasty unintended consequences.)
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To: GOPJ
"Took my kids to the Kennedy Space Center to look at the moon rocks... "

You think maybe they lowered a bucket and the moon rocks just jumped in?

You know what makes them moon rocks, don't you? It's not just that they came from the moon. They are ancient rocks.

We don't have rocks that old here on Earth. They get churned through tectonic activity. The oldest rocks we can find are scarcely older than three billion years. Life was old when they were laid down.

But some moon rocks are from the original composition. It's the control for what the experiment called life has done to minerals on this planet.

908 posted on 12/08/2008 7:06:21 PM PST by NicknamedBob (When in the course of human events, if you can't swim, at least dog-paddle.)
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To: GOPJ

So you’re saying that all our people who claim to have walked, skipped, golfed, and planted the American flag on the moon are liars.


909 posted on 12/08/2008 7:11:23 PM PST by Tax-chick (All I want for Christmas is the giant plush microbes from ThinkGeek.com.)
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To: NicknamedBob

And good night, Al Shepard. You were a true character, like NicknamedBob.


910 posted on 12/08/2008 7:13:11 PM PST by Tax-chick (All I want for Christmas is the giant plush microbes from ThinkGeek.com.)
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To: NicknamedBob
We don't have rocks that old here on Earth.

Yes, we do - you might see them in the sky at night - some call them "shooting stars" - little chucks of rock that usually burn up in the atmosphere...

911 posted on 12/08/2008 7:18:09 PM PST by GOPJ (Perverse incentives birth nasty unintended consequences.)
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To: GOPJ
"I'm not some anti-science person. I just don't believe we had the technology to land the craft and take off. "

We didn't have the technology? I've got a bridge to sell you. -- The Brooklyn Bridge.

We didn't have the technology to build this bridge, either. But we built it. Men died, too.

They died from what they called "caisson disease". We recognize it now as "the bends". At the pressure they were working, nitrogen dissolved in the blood. When they returned to the surface, nitrogen bubbles in the bloodstream caused severe pain and physical damage.

Two things happened. We learned more about working at depth.

And the bridge got built.

912 posted on 12/08/2008 7:27:26 PM PST by NicknamedBob (When in the course of human events, if you can't swim, at least dog-paddle.)
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To: GOPJ
... some call them "shooting stars" ...

They were a good source of iron before we learned how to make it for ourselves.

913 posted on 12/08/2008 7:29:38 PM PST by NicknamedBob (When in the course of human events, if you can't swim, at least dog-paddle.)
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To: Tax-chick
I believe it was done with the best of intentions and the best motives and if it kept the space program going then it makes sense to me. I believed in the moon landing story most of my life - and I believed in global warming in 1984 - then at some point it quit making sense to me. Same with this. It's not personal. A few weeks ago some friends and I were driving to Orlando when one of the space station launches was going up and we were all trying to catch a glimpse of the rocket trail - and we were listening to the takeoff information on the radio. It was like old times. I believe in the space program. My attic is painted with a product that was given NASA's "best spinoff" product award for 2003. I am not anti-science. I just have major doubts about a moon landing. Maybe it's just a tinfoil issue and soon I'll agree with the rest of you.... who knows.
914 posted on 12/08/2008 7:42:57 PM PST by GOPJ (Perverse incentives birth nasty unintended consequences.)
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To: NicknamedBob
They died from what they called "caisson disease". We recognize it now as "the bends". At the pressure they were working, nitrogen dissolved in the blood. When they returned to the surface, nitrogen bubbles in the bloodstream caused severe pain and physical damage. Two things happened. We learned more about working at depth. And the bridge got built.

I'm familiar with the bends - my brother was into underwater cave diving when he was young. And a friend did nondestructive testing on ships. The "bends" are very real. A the Brooklyn Bridge wan an engineering marvel - no doubt about it. As was the space program. But I still don't believe we landed on the moon.

915 posted on 12/08/2008 7:53:39 PM PST by GOPJ (Perverse incentives birth nasty unintended consequences.)
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To: GOPJ

I suppose I can accept that you don’t believe it. I had some doubters when I was describing the expedition to the Sun a little while back.

Still, if you think we did not go ahead with it, in spite of all the planning, and obvious effort we made, what was it, in your considered opinion, that made us stop?

One of my favorite episodes of “Rugrats” had Chuckie, saying brightly, when they had run into some worrisome obstacles, “I’ve got an idea! Let’s just quit!”

Do you think it was that? We just decided to quit? Like the Barbie doll deciding that “Math is hard”, we chose to just give up, while the entire world was watching our every step along the way.

Sure. “Close enough for government work, fellas. The rubes will never know the difference.”

I don’t think so.


916 posted on 12/08/2008 8:09:43 PM PST by NicknamedBob (When in the course of human events, if you can't swim, at least dog-paddle.)
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To: NicknamedBob
All this happened in the pre Watergate era - it was a different time. Many lies were told to civilians in the name of national security. And that was OK with most people. We were in this situation together. Aagin, the preWatergate era was different.

And I'll bet that was the mindset going into this situation. There was a cold war "end" that justified the means.

Someday we'll know.

Or not.

But in the mean time, I don't believe in unicorns, global warming caused by man, or moon landings. I do believe in horses, climate change caused by the natural ebb and flow of climate patterns, and I believe in the space program - in the Mars program and the space station.

That will have to be enough for you, Bob.

917 posted on 12/08/2008 8:42:22 PM PST by GOPJ (Perverse incentives birth nasty unintended consequences.)
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To: NicknamedBob

Good morning! I dreamed that I was back in college (same one) trying to find classes in buildings that didn’t exist in the 1980s. My old tax accounting professor was still there, and one of the Mexican ladies from church was working in the bookstore.


918 posted on 12/09/2008 2:22:38 AM PST by Tax-chick (All I want for Christmas is the giant plush microbes from ThinkGeek.com.)
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To: GOPJ

Well, I still think that’s a pretty rude attitude toward our men, but they’re mostly dead anyway. So as far as I’m concerned, have a Guinness and talk about the weather and your Christmas shopping.

I was going to order some flowers for my mother and mother-in-law, but Tom handed me the snake and I can only use one hand.


919 posted on 12/09/2008 5:56:03 AM PST by Tax-chick (All I want for Christmas is the giant plush microbes from ThinkGeek.com.)
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To: Tax-chick
"... but Tom handed me the snake and I can only use one hand."

Isn't it all the fashion nowadays to drape it around your neck?

920 posted on 12/09/2008 6:01:36 AM PST by NicknamedBob (When in the course of human events, if you can't swim, at least dog-paddle.)
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