Posted on 06/11/2008 6:25:31 PM PDT by Neville72
We already know that Obama is not QUALIFIED to be the President, we now know that he is not ELIGIBLE to be President under American law.
This is a great comment to a post over at Michelle Malkin’s blog:
On June 10th, 2008 at 8:37 am, legendx3 said:
Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? . Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: “…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawai’i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.
*** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. *** Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in Indonesia. Now you can see why Obama’s aides stopped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the Gov. Of California would be very insterested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, and it would set precedence. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days…
DAWG! This guy really is about flaunting his illegal behavior in all of our faces, isn’t he?
Irrelevent. He is a natural born U.S. citizen due to the fact that he was born in the United States to a citizen.
Don't have to go to the age of the mother factor, it's done.
No it didn’t.
The law that is quoted is in reference to a person born outside the U.S. to one parent that was a citizen and a parent that is not a citizen.
If you were born in the U.S. to a citizen, this point of the law didn’t come into question.
“If you’re born in the United States, you’re a US citizen unless you’re the child of a foreign diplomat.”
Better check the law before 1986.
Because this condition covers the cases were the candidate is born, outside the US, to an naturalized citizen, who has to have resided in the US for 10 years after naturalization (5 after she turned 16)
1. Obama's mother was a natural born citizen so this doesn't apply
2. Even if it did, Obama was born in the US, so it doesn't apply, double.
You’re wrong. You’re on a migratory waterfowl chase.
Your only hope is that he wasn’t born in Hawaii.
That statute is irrelevant to his situation as we know it.
So, Ear Boy is an illegal alien!
Hawaii, even as a territory, has been regarded as part of the United States as an incorporated organized territory. People who are born in incorporated organized territories are American citizens. Period.
Are you sure he was born in Hawaii?
Internets are saying his mom was not allowed to fly because of her pregnancy. She may have given birth in Kenya and then flew to Hawaii. She then applied for a birth certificate.
I know the the tin foil hat is on, but, it is out there.
Let him prove these rumors false.
Traction & legs bump.
Go go go.
So a child born on American soil to a native-born (indeed 10th generation, or something like that) American woman is not an American citizen unless she is at least 21 years old?
Congratulations, this post now holds the new record for asininity.
What a bunch of crap.
Maybe you should check the law. The law, even before 1986, works along a pathway.
First, were you born in the U.S. to parents who did not have diplomatic immunity? If yes, you are a natural born U.S. citizen.
Second, were you born outside the U.S. to parents that were both U.S. citizens? If yes, you are a natural born U.S. citizen.
Third, were you born outside the U.S. to a parent that was a natural born U.S. citizen and to a parent that was a not a citizen? If yes, you are a natural born U.S. citizen.
Fourth, were you born outside the U.S. to a parent that was a naturalized U.S. citizen that had lived 10 years in the U.S. including five years past the age of 16 and to a parent that was not a citizen? If yes, you are a natural born U.S. citizen.
Since Obama qualified under the first check point, the rest is irrelevant.
Even if the “flight from Kenya” story is true, he was still born to a natural born U.S. citizen.
But seriously, was she thinking when he was born that he might one day run for President so she plotted to not get a birth certificate until she got to Hawaii?
That is the type of conspiracy nonsense you would have to buy into.
Even if Obama had been born in an airplane toilet somewhere over the South Pacific, he would have been a natural born U.S. citizen.
The noise to signal ratio at this forum is growing.
When I get called a troll on a regular basis I know that’s true. Hasn’t happened yet with this new group, but I can sense it coming from some of the kids.
If that's true, then there is no problem and all this tin-foil stuff is a waste of effort.
But, without access the his birth certificate, that KEY ASSUMPTION that he truly was born in Hawaii is not proven. If that piece turns out wrong, then the tin-foil stuff may have validity.
This topic doesn't truly go away until we see the birth certificate.
Except that the 'opinion' seems to be built on BS. The applicable statute is Section 301 of 8 USC 1401:
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.
Two years, not five. After age 14, not 16. Even if he wasn't born in Hawaii, Obama is a natural born U.S. citizen under the Constitution and the laws of the United States.
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