Posted on 03/23/2008 11:36:40 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny
Americans finding soaring food prices hard to stomach can battle back by growing their own food. [Click image for a larger version] Dean Fosdick Dean Fosdick
Home vegetable gardens appear to be booming as a result of the twin movements to eat local and pinch pennies.
At the Southeastern Flower Show in Atlanta this winter, D. Landreth Seed Co. of New Freedom, Pa., sold three to four times more seed packets than last year, says Barb Melera, president. "This is the first time I've ever heard people say, 'I can grow this more cheaply than I can buy it in the supermarket.' That's a 180-degree turn from the norm."
Roger Doiron, a gardener and fresh-food advocate from Scarborough, Maine, said he turned $85 worth of seeds into more than six months of vegetables for his family of five.
A year later, he says, the family still had "several quarts of tomato sauce, bags of mixed vegetables and ice-cube trays of pesto in the freezer; 20 heads of garlic, a five-gallon crock of sauerkraut, more homegrown hot-pepper sauce than one family could comfortably eat in a year and three sorts of squash, which we make into soups, stews and bread."
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She compares the current period of market uncertainty with that of the early- to mid-20th century when the concept of victory gardens became popular.
"A lot of companies during the world wars and the Great Depression era encouraged vegetable gardening as a way of addressing layoffs, reduced wages and such," she says. "Some companies, like U.S. Steel, made gardens available at the workplace. Railroads provided easements they'd rent to employees and others for gardening."
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Grabbed a quick look at this group and they are getting ready for riots, associated with the election.
It appears in more than one town, if you have anti-obama bumper stickers, they will attack your car and slash your tires.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HunkerDown06/
LOL, this is also talking about the danger of riots and which radios to buy.
They will talk about anything that is related to survival.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/misc_survivalism_moderated/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/misc_survivalism_moderated/message/89090
Re:Free Water ?
We ‘harvest’ rain (I still smile at that term). Have done all my life as
I have never lived in an area with scheme water but we are a dry
continent and we don’t have the problems of freezing that many of you
have in winter, which is when our rain falls.
We collect and store from sheds and houses, all up maybe 60,000+
gal(IMP), which includes some that is not potable. All buildings in AU
have gutters; most in suburbia runs straight into the sewer but more and
more people are diverting small amounts into storage tanks for home use
as water restrictions bight harder.
Would love to have a well/bore but there is none under us that is
drinkable and the deep aquifer we aren’t allowed into.
—
Ginny - In West Australia
> Is anyone out there harvesting rainwater ?
>
> I have two 55 gallon barrels that fill from my gutters and is used for
> watering the garden and livestock. The plants and animals LOVE
> rainwater. I have a well I drilled myself that I use that for potable
> water but the rainwater system is in place if that well ever fails.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/misc_survivalism_moderated/message/89010
Re: Free Water and filtering
Below is a link that will show you how to filter the roof water if
needed. Granted, it is for a kitchen sink installation, but it is a
step in the right direction. The filtering system is on the right hand
side of page one.
http://www.ag.ndsu.nodak.edu/abeng/plans/nd8511-4-1.pdf
-— In misc_survivalism_moderated@yahoogroups.com, “lamar5292”
>
> Here is a great article on rain water harvesting from off-grid.net.
>
> Is anyone out there harvesting rainwater ?
>
> I have two 55 gallon barrels that fill from my gutters and is used for
> watering the garden and livestock. The plants and animals LOVE
> rainwater. I have a well I drilled myself that I use that for potable
> water but the rainwater system is in place if that well ever fails.
>
> Here is a link to the article:
>
> http://www.off-grid.net/2008/08/31/free-water/
>
> LaMar
> http://www.freewebs.com/simplesolarhomesteading
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/misc_survivalism_moderated/message/88975
I have 4 big rain barrels that serve my gardens (and my hair!) well. I have
keep a couple of minnows/goldfish in them, though, to help keep down all
those blasted mosquitoes....
Shona
I gave most of it away... I’m getting calls from strange women propositioning me! LOL!<<<
Is your wife home from her trip?
Maybe you better make it again and share with us, or at least share the recipe.
I am so glad it was good, most of my from scratch attempts made a nice chocolate syrup.
In 1970 we moved to Wellton, Arizona and went to buy ‘stuff’ at what was an ‘estate sale’.
Mary, the widow and I became wonderful friends and even tho she was 40 years older than I, she kept up with me or did her best....
When I visited her for ‘tea’ on Wednesday afternoons, I would go outside and sit on the steps to smoke.
One day she came out and asked if Bill liked fudge to take in his lunch, and I said ‘yes’.........so she handed me a package about 6 inches by 4 inches of fudge and after I held it a few minutes, felt the temptation to taste it, she saw me picking at the package and asked “Oh, do you like fudge?” “yes”.
“OK, I have some crumbs still in the pan”
LOL, and that was what I got, the crumbs and the knowledge that I had better not mess with Bill’s fudge.
She baked him a cake once, several layers of an orange cake, with about a quarter inch of fudge between the layers and iced it with fudge..........she also liked the See’s fudge recipe.
Mary loved Bill and did for him, when she could, let him tear a shirt and she had it off his back and mended “at once”.
They were beautiful to be around, both born on June 7th, 30 years apart.
LOL, yes, it did get large in a hurry, if you figure out how to make an index on it, please share it.
Post if you think of something to share and don’t worry about it having been posted before, LOL, we won’t find it.
I knew there was a problem and rushed her off from work to the hospital with chest pain last Fall. They found nothing but kept her for two days... long story.
In my heart I felt ill at ease for her to undergo the major back surgery and told her so... too many bad experiences heard from other Doctors and Patients.
So this may be a short trip (I hope!).
Yes... I saved her some fudge and am stuffing it into my luggage in the next minute or so... shouldn't melt in the cargo hold (again: I hope!). Will post the recipe at a later time...gotta go...
You have done such a huge amount of work on this thread, I can only cut and paste the other stuff!
100 Items to Disappear First
1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won’t heat a room.)
15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman’s Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. {”Strike Anywhere” preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, “No. 76 Dietz” Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
49. Men’s Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. “Survival-in-a-Can”
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress’s
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens
And in addition, I would recommend the following:
Tincture of Iodine.
Good antiseptic, but more importantly, if you have no KI (Potassium Iodide), tincture of Iodine can save your life.
Any decent farm supply store has multiple types of antibiotics you can buy cheaply, without prescription. As always, use good judgement about allergies, etc.
Gatorade bottles hold water, which is a good thing. They can hold hot water, which during a cold night, under the sheets, can be an even better thing.
You can still drink/use it when it cools!
There are a zillion tips I have seen and will try to put more up!
**If I were hungry enough, snake might be food**
Everything tastes like chicken!
Horses and dogs and monkeys, too, but my kids would have to be starving first! LOL
**Mary thought that I was a vegetarian**
That’s too funny! I’m not eating tofu, either. Blech! Making some chili right now. Tasty!
Index. . . now there’s a thought. Let me think about that.
News from CPSC
U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission
Office of Information and Public Affairs
Washington, DC 20207
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
October 24, 2008
Release #09-023
Firm’s Hotline: (888) 282-4674
CPSC Hotline: (800) 638-2772
CPSC Media Contact: (301) 504-7908
CPSC and Carter’s Advise Parents of Rashes Associated with Heat Transferred, or “Tag-less,” Labels
WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) and Carter’s, Inc., of Atlanta, Georgia, are advising parents and caregivers that they have received reports that a small percentage of babies and infants have developed rashes on the upper back after wearing Carter’s clothing with heat-transferred, or “tag-less,” labels.
This advisory applies to Carter’s Fall 2007 product line. The Fall 2007 line utilizes a label on the inside back of the garment that has a raised surface with a solid, rather than a stenciled, background. This advisory does not apply to previous and current product lines, which utilize labels with stenciled backgrounds.
The garments, which were made in various countries, were sold at Carter’s own retail stores and at department and national chain stores.
If your child develops a rash on the upper back after wearing garments that have a “tag-less” label with a solid background, you should stop using these garments. If the rash persists or worsens, you should contact your pediatrician. For additional information, visit Carter’s website at http://www.carters.com/corporate/tagless_message.aspx, contact Carter’s toll free at 1-888-282-4674 or by email at contactus@carters.com
To see this release on CPSC’s web site, including pictures of the products involved in this advisory, please go to: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09023.html
In my heart I felt ill at ease for her to undergo the major back surgery and told her so... too many bad experiences heard from other Doctors and Patients.<<<
I can understand your worry and fears.
Time has flown by for me and it is now the 25th, maybe you are home already.
Have safe trips and my prayers are with you and your loved ones.
granny
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)<<<
I had to laugh at that one, as I have one of the old large childs wagons, and used it almost daily, when I could go out doors.
Now it sits there ready for use and I heard it being used yesterday, as my son took a few fireplace logs for his almost never used fireplace.
Your list of supplies is an excellent one and should be used for supplies.
Have you checked out the Free Cycle groups?
When I discovered there was one in my area at Yahoo Groups, I joined, to see what it was all about.
I can’t take part, as I don’t leave the house for health reasons and my son does enough, doing all the meds and grocery shopping, so I dare not ask for more of his time.
Yesterday, someone gave away a car, Lincoln, with transmission troubles........LOL, in a day or so, someone will post a transmission...Maybe.
I have seen almost every thing on your list in the Free Cycle groups, free, come and get it.
People ask for lumber for building and then you see a glowing letter of thanks, or it maybe any kind of furniture, books, or anything you can think of.
The Goats and Chickens is an excellent addition to the list, small enough to eat, before it spoils, and milk from the goat, without refrigeration.....a life saver and good for you.
Cut and paste is fine, look at the thousands of times I have done so.....LOL, and I still remember when a bunch of Freepers attempted to teach me how.
Come to think of it, I failed the ‘cut’ part of it, but do well with ‘highlight’ and copy. Didn’t make sense to me to cut, when it cut itself, when highlighted.
I still have trouble getting copy from PDF files.
Thanks for posting, we need more ideas than I can invent.
Survival is so important right now and likely to become even more so.
Gatorade bottles hold water, which is a good thing. They can hold hot water, which during a cold night, under the sheets, can be an even better thing.
You can still drink/use it when it cools!<<<
An excellent idea, thanks for reminding me of it, my floor is cold and a large one might make a nice warm foot rest.
I knew about using bags of frozen vegetables for ice packs on sprains, swelling etc.
Yes, Iodine should be stored and Peroxide.
With all the talk of ‘dirty bombs’ the Iodine really is an important supply item for the medicine cabinet.
I have listened to Dr. Bill Wattenberg on kgo.com radio for many years, in his real life, he teaches and invents nuclear and other weapons and things for the Gov.
He says that if you are hit with a dirty bomb or a nuclear explosion and live past the blast, then leave the area at once, go to a safe place, do not wear your clothes into the house, remove them, seal in a plastic bag and discard, they will not be cleanable.
Take a shower and wash your body and hair, use Laundry Soap, not the oil based regular soaps, as they will bind the nuclear to the skin.
And stay in doors and out of the fall out and dust.
He says that if you are not killed in the explosion, or by falling timbers, then if you get the contaminated clothing off and take the shower, you should survive.
I have known many farm people who used the animal antibiotics, but I do not, as they do not have the same health controls as the people meds do.
But, if I was desperate, I bet I would change my mind.
Important to me are Oregano and Lavender Essential oils.
The Oregano kills germs and will cure a sinus infection, in a day or so, by simply smelling it from the bottle, 5 or 6 times a day........LOL, it stinks, so it must be good for you.
The Lavender, will relax you, all you need to do, is remove the cap and smell it, I can’t say or spell the ingredients, but they are there and it has been used for many years.
I often have to use both, to keep breathing, even using an oxygen generator 24 hours a day.
For headaches, I put the lavender on the temples and the back base of my neck.
My first bottle was for soap making, which I never made, but I did get the lavender and then one day, with a headache already going, read on the internet, that it would cure it and tried it.......it works and i was hooked.
Another important use, is with cranky babies, don’t put it on the baby, but on the skin of your shoulder, under the blouse and lay the babies head there, it will slow down and relax.
I gave my daughter in law a tiny bottle of it for her purse, she used it the year she fought a loosing battle with cancer, said it helped her and that my son often asked for the bottle, while they were once again waiting for her tests and results.
We put a drop of lavender or spearmint on our pillow at night and it helps you to sleep.
Please keep posting your tips, they are good ones.
The only idea that I have had for an index, was to download it and install the Google desktop search engine....That is how
Kim Komando of the radio computer talk program says she finds things on her computer.
Before Windows, when we still used Doss programs, there was an index program for indexing the books that you wrote, there must still be one out there........
I am not much good with using Windows, so keep learning by the day.
In the Doss days, I tried to learn how to use it and bought a lot of the shareware disks, to figure out how it worked.
Still can’t find stuff on this computer.
From what I hear, antibiotics made for farm use are manufactured to pretty exacting standards.
I mean if you have a herd of beef worth a couple mill, you’re not likely to give them something toxic - or something that’s not what it says it is on the label.
Also remember most farm animals are destined for human consumption - so there’s not gonna be alot of say, lead for instance in anything designed for the animals. That would set off alarms all over the country.
That’s too funny! I’m not eating tofu, either.<<<
That is the only cheese available in my valley stores, I tried it and no thanks, and people actually like it, not I.
I thought of making chili a couple days ago, but went with a stir fry, in the crockpot, had a broccoli that needed cooked and had been around too long to steam.
I turned it on high and browned the hamburger meat, onions and the tougher parts of the broccoli stem, sliced thin, LOL, no, not the very end that is too tough to cut. cooked it a hour or two and then started adding other stuff, I had asked for frozen mixed vegetables, and they got me a stir fry mixture.
I liked the broccoli stems, was surprised at how good they were, better than the flowerlets.[sp?]
And I froze 3 or 4 packages, including the rice, so will use them different ways, a can of stewed tomatoes and you have soup, etc.
check the hint for using Lavender Essential Oil, with babies in the post above this one, it works, as when I found the hint, I sent it to a friend, with a new cranky grandchild, she had Lavender and tried it, it works.
Stir fry! Yummy!
The chili was great! #2 son’s girlfriend ate with us. She took a couple of bites and said—Wow! That’s got some kick! LOL
The fall broccoli is about to come off here. Can’t wait!
As for the imprinted tags, haven’t had any trouble with them and I hate regular tags with a passion. Shudder. When #2 son was little, he wouldn’t wear anything with a tag in it. Came by it honest. Tags don’t seem to bother my other two kids.
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