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Home gardening offers ways to trim grocery costs [Survival Today, an on going thread]
Dallas News.com ^ | March 14th, 2008 | DEAN FOSDICK

Posted on 03/23/2008 11:36:40 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny

Americans finding soaring food prices hard to stomach can battle back by growing their own food. [Click image for a larger version] Dean Fosdick Dean Fosdick

Home vegetable gardens appear to be booming as a result of the twin movements to eat local and pinch pennies.

At the Southeastern Flower Show in Atlanta this winter, D. Landreth Seed Co. of New Freedom, Pa., sold three to four times more seed packets than last year, says Barb Melera, president. "This is the first time I've ever heard people say, 'I can grow this more cheaply than I can buy it in the supermarket.' That's a 180-degree turn from the norm."

Roger Doiron, a gardener and fresh-food advocate from Scarborough, Maine, said he turned $85 worth of seeds into more than six months of vegetables for his family of five.

A year later, he says, the family still had "several quarts of tomato sauce, bags of mixed vegetables and ice-cube trays of pesto in the freezer; 20 heads of garlic, a five-gallon crock of sauerkraut, more homegrown hot-pepper sauce than one family could comfortably eat in a year and three sorts of squash, which we make into soups, stews and bread."

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She compares the current period of market uncertainty with that of the early- to mid-20th century when the concept of victory gardens became popular.

"A lot of companies during the world wars and the Great Depression era encouraged vegetable gardening as a way of addressing layoffs, reduced wages and such," she says. "Some companies, like U.S. Steel, made gardens available at the workplace. Railroads provided easements they'd rent to employees and others for gardening."

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To: nw_arizona_granny
Sorry I haven't been here today, benn working with our pups.

The recipes posted have required eggs. If someone can't get to a store(if there's still food to be had in them) or they don't have any laying hens, eggs will be impossible to come by. Here are a couple of site that may interest someone who wants to bake but has no eggs.

no egg or yeast bread and biscuits
egg substitute for Vegetarian cooking
egg substitute

Here's an example in the last link.

What is a good substitute for eggs?

Ener-G Egg Replacer - follow directions on box.
2 tbsp corn starch = 1 egg
2 tbsp arrowroot flour = 1 egg
2 tbsp potato starch = 1 egg
1 heaping tbsp soy powder + 2 tbsp water = 1 egg
1 tbsp soy milk powder + 1 tbsp cornstarch + 2 tbsp water = 1 egg.
1 banana = 1 egg in cakes.

Hopefully I'll be able to find some free time tomorrow. Congrats on a great thread.

501 posted on 03/25/2008 7:35:20 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: TheLion

Welcome and do come back, we need your knowledge too.


502 posted on 03/25/2008 7:44:20 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: Gabz

OK, if not this job, there is a better one coming up.

From the sound of it, you are a natural teacher.

Potato pancakes sounds good to me.

Enjoy your children while you can, as the next time you look, they will suddenly in their mid 50’s.

I never got past my daughters ‘terrible two’s’ and now she is almost 60.

If the posts I sent are not of use to you, they may be to someone else, something has to click, for a lot of people.

Surviving without having to go out to work, was always my goal and both times that I went into business, it was for 24 hour a day work, or that was what it felt like.

It is good that you are working at the Moose Lodge, it exposes you to more people.

Good luck and still praying that the right job knocks on the door and soon.


503 posted on 03/25/2008 7:55:00 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: Gabz

Cross reference of our threads is a fine idea, be sure that you add the info for your group here too.

Thank you for offering to do so.

Job hunting alone is enough to keep you busy, come when you can, I always smile when I see your name on the thread.

Take care and stay safe.


504 posted on 03/25/2008 7:58:38 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: processing please hold

Thank you, your list is good timing, as I never have eggs and have need of them for a couple breads, LOL, like cornbread and pancakes.

I got tired of buying them and throwing them out.

Smile.....[me]


505 posted on 03/25/2008 8:04:17 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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http://waltonfeed.com/grain/cookin/emergbar.html

Emergency Survival Bar

* 3 C. cereal (oatmeal, cornmeal, or wheat flakes)
* 1/4 tsp. salt
* 3 T. honey
* 2 1/2 C. powdered milk
* 1 C. sugar
* 1/2 C. Jello (optional)
* 1/4 C. water
* add raisons if you like

Place all dry ingredients except Jello in a bowl. Bring water, honey, and Jello to a boil. Add to dry ingredients. Mix well. Add water a little at a time until mixture is just moist enough to mold. Place in a small square dish and dry in the oven under very low heat. Wrap and store. This will make 2 bars, each containing approx. 1000 calories or enough food for one day. These will store for a long time if they are cooked until quite dry, and are excellent for emergency packs, etc. Eat dry, or cooked in about 3/4 C. water.

Vicki Tate
Just for fun, the web page author did a nutritional analysis of the above recipe’s contents using rolled oats and powdered milk fortified with vitamin A. He found this to indeed be a very nutritious bar. One bar contains only half of the nutrients of the whole recipe and therefore you may wish to set aside two bars per day to get the following:

NUTRIENT PERCENT RDA


Food energy 74%
Protein 135%
Total lipid (fat) 12%
Carbohydrate, by diff. 93%
Total saturated fat 8%
Cholesterol 10%
Sodium 441%
Total dietary fiber 60%
Vitamin A 121% (If Vit A fortified powdered milk is used.)
Ascorbic acid 16%
Thiamin 154%
Riboflavin 191%
Niacin 16%
Vitamin B6 38%
Folacin 113%
Vitamin B12 114%
Potassium 177%
Calcium 218%
Phosphorus 308%
Magnesium 116%
Iron 80%
Zinc 90%
Pantothenic acid 75%
Copper 55%
Manganese 212%
Linoleic acid (18:2/n6) 122%
Linolenic acid(18:3/n3) 9%
Histidine 234%
Isoleucine 491%
Leucine 615%
Lysine 610%
Methionine+Cystine 396%
Phenylalanine+Tyrosine 630%
Threonine 563%
Tryptophan 503%
Valine 488%

Probably the biggest problem is the low vitamin C. However, in a pinch, a person could live a long time off these bars alone. They are also a bit short in the calorie department, but are excellent in protein, over half of the B vitamins, and excellent in the minerals category. These bars, no doubt, nutritionally beat many of the expensive bars you can purchase from the different companies, and properly sealed would probably last as long.

Al


506 posted on 03/25/2008 8:08:29 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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http://waltonfeed.com/grain/cookin/emergcan.html

Emergency Candles

* 2 C. fine sawdust
* 1 lb. melted wax

Chip or cut up wax into small pieces, and melt over water, never directly over flame or burner. It can be melted in the same can you’re going to use for the candle. Put the sawdust in a shoe box and pour the wax over it. Mix it until it holds together well when squeezed in your hands. Pack and press the mixture into the can tightly and firmly. Make a hole with a long knitting needle. Add the wick, all the way down. Pour melted wax over the top to secure.


There are other versions, that use wood shavings in a tall juice can or coffee cans.

People in the group talked of punched holes in the top of the cans, just down from the top rim, so it would draw the needed air to burn and having been able to cook pots of food on it.

granny


507 posted on 03/25/2008 8:16:00 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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http://waltonfeed.com/grain/cookin/dutchbrd.html

Whole Wheat Bread
in a Dutch Oven

* 1 pkg. dry yeast
* 3 tsp. shortening
* 4 tsp. molasses
* 3 C. scalded milk
* 1/3 C. lukewarm water
* 4 tsp. honey
* 3 tsp. salt
* 6 C. whole wheat flour

Dissolve yeast in water. Melt shortening and combine with honey, molasses, salt and milk. Cook to lukewarm and combine with yeast mixture. Add flour, enough to make a soft dough and knead thoroughly, using extra flour as needed. Shape in rolls and place in Dutch oven. Let rise not quite double. Bake at 350 degrees F. with 6-8 coals on bottom and 15-18 coals on top for 12” oven. Bake about 30-35 minutes or until done.


508 posted on 03/25/2008 8:18:18 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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http://waltonfeed.com/grain/cookin/mockhamb.html

Mock Hamburger

* 1 C. wheat
* 1 can red kidney beans (or cooked beans)
* 1 egg
* salt and pepper to taste

Cook wheat 1 hour. Blend wheat in blender then add beans and continue to blend. Add egg and salt and pepper. This can be molded into patties and fried or used in any recipe calling for hamburger.

Cherie Harmon


509 posted on 03/25/2008 8:19:48 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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http://waltonfeed.com/grain/cookin/lentrst.html

Lentil Roast

* 1 1/2 C. cooked lentils
* 1/4 C. cooked lima beans
* 1/2 C. rolled oats
* 2/3 C. dry milk powder
* 1 1/2 C. fine bread crumbs
* 2 C. water
* 1/4 C. vegetable oil
* 1 egg
* 1 C. chopped nuts
* 1/2 tsp. sage
* 1 tsp. vegetable or chicken base
* 1 C. grated celery
* 1 tsp. grated onion
* 1 C. grated fresh carrots

Combine all ingredients and mix thoroughly. Add more bread crumbs for a drier loaf. Spoon into a 9”x13” baking dish coated with a non-stick vegetable spray. Bake at 350 degrees F. for 30-40 minutes. Serve with white bean gravy, if desired. Serves 8-10

Rita Bingham


510 posted on 03/25/2008 8:21:13 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Two 28 oz. loaves of Kirkland brand multi-grain bread is only $3.59 at Costco, and it is as good or better than any name brand. You can’t make it for that.


511 posted on 03/25/2008 8:21:22 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: nw_arizona_granny

bttt


512 posted on 03/25/2008 8:22:17 PM PDT by GOPJ (Hillary's Tanya Harding Option: Start a race war. Destroy the Democrat Party. Win.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Eggs are a cheap source of protein, and now OK’d for ones diet.

Not as cheap as beans, but inexpensive.


513 posted on 03/25/2008 8:23:06 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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http://waltonfeed.com/grain/cookin/indcass.html

Indian Corn Casserole (Dried Foods)

* 1 C. dehydrated sweet corn
* 1/4 C. dehydrated onions
* 1 C. tomato powder
* 3 T. dehydrated green peppers
* 1C. dry bread crumbs
* 2 T. dehydrated cheese
* 1 T. shortening or margarine

Reconstitute vegetables. Add seasonings. Place in casserole dish. Dot with margarine or shortening. Sprinkle with cheese and crumbs. Bake at 375 degrees F for 30-35 minutes.


514 posted on 03/25/2008 8:23:10 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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http://waltonfeed.com/grain/cookin/indbd.html

Indian Bean Bread (Early Settlers)

* 4 C. cornmeal
* 2 C. hot water
* 2 C. cooked beans
* 1/2 tsp. baking soda

Put cornmeal in a bowl and mix in the drained beans. Make a hole in the middle and add soda and water. Mix. Form into balls and drop into a pot of boiling water. Cook abut 45 minutes or until done.


515 posted on 03/25/2008 8:24:37 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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http://waltonfeed.com/grain/cookin/hardtack.html

Old Fashioned Hardtack Candy

* 2 C. sugar
* 3/4 C. corn syrup
* 1 C. water

Mix and cook to 270 degrees F. or hard brittle stage with threads as it falls in cool water. Remove from the heat and add food coloring as desired and 1/2 tsp. flavoring (cinnamon, peppermint, etc.). Pour into a buttered dish and cool. Break into pieces and roll in powdered sugar.

Cherie Harmon

What if one added cinnamon to this, LOL, it would have freckles.
granny


516 posted on 03/25/2008 8:28:30 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I know there is a ton of good information here and it will take an afternoon to read it all.

Has anyone mentioned the value of the tomato trees, I see advertised on tv?

They look almost too good ro be true.

I have a friend here who grows tomatoes and sells them to local restaurants.


517 posted on 03/25/2008 8:30:52 PM PDT by TheLion
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http://waltonfeed.com/old/mama/remedie2.html

Burn Salve

This recipe has been passed down through the Hovey, Clark, and Hardy families since the 1860’s. This salve is reported to be very effective in healing of burns. [Editor note: I’ve heard personal testimonials from the old timers about how well this recipe works - bad burns - no scars!]

* 1 tea cupful lard
* 1 tea cupful mutton tallow
* 1 tea cupful olive oil
* beeswax the size of an egg
* resin the size of an egg
* 2 tsp carbolic acid

Dissolve all ingredients on the stove except the olive oil and carbolic acid, which you add upon removing from the heat. Mix well and store in covered jar.

Flu Ointment

An early Lethbridge druggist, J.D. Higgenbotham, made this ointment for the flu epidemic of 1918.

* 2 large jars white Vaseline
* 2 oz. turpentine
* 1/4 oz. menthol crystals
* 2 cakes of camphor gum
* 1/3 oz. oil of peppermint
* 1/4 oz. eucalyptus
* 1/4 oz. oil of wintergreen

Melt and mix well over low heat and store in covered jars.

Black Currant Tea

(An infallible remedy for a sore throat)

* 1 Tbsp black currant jam or jelly
* juice of half a lemon
* 1 pint boiling water
* sugar to taste

Simmer altogether for 15 min. the hotter you are able to drink the tea the better.

Mustard Plaster

[Editor Note: You have to be careful with mustard plasters. A woman E-mailed me several months ago after trying a different mustard plaster recipe at this web site saying it gave her a very bad burn. This is powerful stuff!]
Good for chest colds
Use the white of an egg instead of water with the dry mustard. The egg will prevent blistering of the skin. Mix egg white with half dry mustard half flour, cover the mustard mix on a cloth or paper. Cover the plaster with gauze or soft cloth and hold in place on chest with tape.

Your Comments:

Hi, My mom used to put Vaseline on my skin before placing the Mustard Plaster on it. She said this would protect my skin from burning. Even though she would put fabric between it and my skin, she also used the Vaseline as well. She also made sure there was Vaseline on the skin around the edges of the Mustard Plaster. Also, she checked it often and as soon as my skin was red, she would remove it. If you go much longer than that, you’ll get blisters. Hope this helps.

Thanks,
Liz Roehr

MY mom taught us how to make a mustard plaster from the time I was about six years old. You NEVER NEVER EVER put the mustard plaster on bare skin. We always used a old tea towel and smeared the mustard plaster on it. Then we cover the chest with a tee shirt or another towel.
Put it on the tummy for a good 10-15 mins. Then put it on the back for another 10 to 15 mins.
I turned 65 last week and I still make this for my husband. We live in Manitoba so we do get colds occasionally.
My mom’s recipe (she is now 91 years young and still has a great memory)
Equal parts of dry mustard and white flour. (example 2 tbsp mustard and 2 tbsp white flour) Add water and mix to a smooth paste.
I never heard of adding the oil. If it was hot no wonder the person got burnt.
We smear the plaster on half of the towel and then fold it over. We always washed the cloth out and then it could be reused.
Hopefully this will help those that want to make a milder one and I guarantee this does work.
Then my mom would come with 2 aspirins and a glass of hot lemonade.
She also would cover us up with lots of blankets to make sure we would sweat.

Blessings for your day.
Annette Derksen


http://waltonfeed.com/grain/cookin/mstrdptr.html

Old Fashioned Mustard Plaster
(For Chest Colds)

Note: Be careful with this recipe. I’ve had people E-mail me saying this recipe burned the skin on their chest!

What follows is one of them...

Hi; I decided a few nights ago to apy a mustard plaster as I had heard my Mom talk about it years ago. Well I think I added 2 heaping tablespoons of powdered mustard, flour and water. Well I now have several blisters on my chest so I hope people will put several layers of fabric between the plaster and the skin. Still Burning...

* 4 T. flour
* 2 tsp. oil
* 1 T. dry mustard

Mix in lukewarm water to form a paste. Spread on a thin clean cloth and cover. Place on chest for 20 minutes (shorter time for small children). Be careful not to burn the skin. Remove the plaster and cover the chest with camphorated oil or Vicks. Then cover with warm fabric such as flannel or a towel. Repeat in 4 hours.

Grandma Mary Cowan

[Editor Note: You have to be careful with mustard plasters. A woman E-mailed me several months ago after trying a different mustard plaster recipe at this web site saying it gave her a very bad burn. This is powerful stuff!]

Your Comments:

Hi, My mom used to put Vaseline on my skin before placing the Mustard Plaster on it. She said this would protect my skin from burning. Even though she would put fabric between it and my skin, she also used the Vaseline as well. She also made sure there was Vaseline on the skin around the edges of the Mustard Plaster. Also, she checked it often and as soon as my skin was red, she would remove it. If you go much longer than that, you’ll get blisters. Hope this helps. Thanks, Liz Roehr

Try using whole wheat flour instead of white flour, and an egg white to prevent burning, but still check often.
Karen Kendrick

Thanks for the recipe of the mustard plaster, how I remember how it worked whem my Mother used to use it on her 6 children .... My wife has used it since but we forgot how to mix it & use it until now, thanks so much, gotta love these computers ... By the way I remember my Mother used to put the plaster in a brown paper bag once it was mixed & put it on our backs until the skin turned reddish then took the plaster off .... Don’t recall ever using vaseline though but its a thought .... thought you might like to pass this on as well, thanks again, Ivan D. Vlahovic

MY mom taught us how to make a mustard plaster from the time I was about six years old. You NEVER NEVER EVER put the mustard plaster on bare skin. We always used a old tea towel and smeared the mustard plaster on it. Then we cover the chest with a tee shirt or another towel.
Put it on the tummy for a good 10-15 mins. Then put it on the back for another 10 to 15 mins.
I turned 65 last week and I still make this for my husband. We live in Manitoba so we do get colds occasionally.
My mom’s recipe (she is now 91 years young and still has a great memory)
Equal parts of dry mustard and white flour. (example 2 tbsp mustard and 2 tbsp white flour) Add water and mix to a smooth paste.
I never heard of adding the oil. If it was hot no wonder the person got burnt.
We smear the plaster on half of the towel and then fold it over. We always washed the cloth out and then it could be reused.
Hopefully this will help those that want to make a milder one and I guarantee this does work.
Then my mom would come with 2 aspirins and a glass of hot lemonade.
She also would cover us up with lots of blankets to make sure we would sweat.

Blessings for your day.
Annette Derksen


518 posted on 03/25/2008 8:33:56 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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http://waltonfeed.com/grain/cookin/burnsav.html

Burn Salve

* 1 bar of cocoa butter, melted
* 2 T. myrrh gum powder
* 2 T. golden seal powder

Mix all together and place in a hot area for 3 hours. Strain. Keep in refrigerator.

Karen Rogers


519 posted on 03/25/2008 8:35:28 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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http://waltonfeed.com/old/mama/wheat2.html

Whole Wheat Pudding

* 1 cup wheat cooked until soft
* 1 cup grated carrots
* 1 cup grated potatoes
* 1 cup chopped raisins
* 1 cup sugar
* 1 cup flour

Mix altogether and add 1 tsp soda and 1 tsp each of cloves, nutmeg, cinnamon and 2 Tbsp butter. Mix well and put in a buttered dish and steam for three hours. Serve with whipped cream.


http://waltonfeed.com/old/mama/wheat3.html

Whole Wheat Breakfast Cereal Into a pot measure:

* 4 cups boiling water
* salt to taste (about 1 tsp)
* 1 cup cracked whole wheat kernels

Boil for 15 min to 1/2 hour stirring occasionally, remove from heat. Cover and let stand until ready to serve. Serve with milk and sugar.

Wheat may be added to soups and stews, meat loaf and many other recipes to extend them.


http://waltonfeed.com/old/mama/wheat1.html

Wheat Casserole

* 1 1/2 cups wheat cooked until soft
* 1 cup celery cut fine
* 1 small green pepper (optional)
* 1 cup hot milk
* soda crackers
* salt and pepper to taste
* 3 Tbsp butter

Arrange wheat, celery and peppers between two layers of soda crackers in a greased baking dish. Add 2 Tbsp butter to hot milk and pour over the mixture, dot with butter on top and bake in hot oven 425 deg. F. for 25 min.


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Many of the pioneers found it necessary to cook nothing but wheat to feed their families. And again during the Great Depression, wheat once more kept many from starvation. To cook whole wheat kernels, put wheat in the oven and heat until it is very hot. Then wash it and boil slow for 3-4 hrs or until kernels burst. No need to use lye.


I take my left over cooked wheat and make a salad, just as you would a macaroni salad....it was good.

Or eat it as I like rice, hot rice, butter, honey and a bit of nutmeg.

granny


520 posted on 03/25/2008 8:44:50 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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