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Posted on 08/07/2007 6:10:11 PM PDT by blam
Diabetes damage linked to vitamin B1 shortage
Last Updated: 1:43am BST 08/08/2007
Diabetics have three-quarters less vitamin B1 in their blood than healthy people, research has shown.
A study by the University of Warwick has linked this shortfall, which occurs in sufferers with both type one and two of the disease, to damage to the kidneys, retina and nerves in the arms and legs that are all common symptoms of the disease.
Prof Paul Thornalley, from the university, said that vitamin supplements could be taken by all diabetics and would work alongside conventional glucose controls.
The study is published in Diabetologia, the diabetes journal. A LACK of vitamin B1 has been linked to vascular disease in diabetes sufferers.
Researchers at the University of Warwick found that diabetics - both type one and type two sufferers - had three quarters less thiamine (vitamin B1) in their blood than healthy people.
In what could be a major finding for treatment of diabetes-related vascular conditions, the experts found the shortage was linked to damage to the kidneys, retina and nerves in the arms and legs - common in diabetics. Prof Paul Thornalley, lead researcher, said a vitamin B1 supplement could be taken by all diabetics and would work alongside conventional glucose controls.
He said: "This is a particularly important study because thiamine has been found to prevent vascular problems in previous research.'' The study - published in diabetes journal Diabetologia - compared 26 type 1 and 48 type 2 diabetics with 20 healthy patients.
It found thiamine concentration in blood plasma was decreased 76 per cent in type 1 sufferers and 75 per cent in type 2 patients.
Peas, beans and lentils are known as pulses. They are the seeds of plants belonging to the family Leguminosae, which gets its name from the characteristic pod or legume that protects the seeds while they are forming and ripening. With approximately 13,000 species, the family Leguminosae is the second largest in the plant kingdom and it is very important economically.
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Thank you. I appreciate this information.
Thanks for the heads up, I’m very much into nutrition including lots of veggies and fruits.
Thanks to JRochelle for the heads-up!
Check into benfotiamine. My son’s a Type 1 and he takes it twice a day.
Within a month, all of the symptoms that led me to the dr were gone. By the end of month three, I'd lost 20 pounds and felt wonderful. After a year on the 60g a day diet I gradually "fell off the wagon" and still did really well for several years. Just now I'm starting to "feel it" and I know that it's time to do the right thing again.
This doctor really did cure me of type 2 diabetes. Yes, in the beginning the diet sucked and got really boring. But the 60g a day wasn't that bad.
My son’s a highly active diabetic. Activity can actually screw up control for anyone using insulin and cause them to go low at night until they figure out how to manage the metabolic boost.
Benfotiamine! WONDERFUL STUFF! :-)
Two good resources:
Alternatively, the Type IIs may have a process at work which is designed to rid the body of excess levels of thiamin.
If, for example, the normal diet were reindeer or similar game for a couple of hundred thousand years, with side orders of seal, when available, or salmon in season, and hold the veggies, you could have an adapted population that would be swimming in thiamin.
So, is there some toxic level of thiamin we should know about?
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/thiamin/
The B complex plus C is widely available in “Stress tab or Stress vitamin” formulations. These have levels of up to 1000% the MDR for these compounds.
I take a routine “over the counter” B complex tab each day in addition to the morning multivitamin. I’d be careful about too much niacin, though, as it can cause problems in ultra-high doses. That is why I avoid Stress tab formulations.
The old saw from biochem is that it is the “fat solubles” that can get you into trouble including A, D and E. If you want an antioxidant instead of E, might be better to go to alpha-lipoic acid which has shown some interesting results in stopping free radical formation.
Funny, I am not convinced this is a symptom of diabetes or a symptom of the diet most diabetics are placed on...
Look at the sources of B1... Milk, Cheese and fruit are generally limited in their intake by diabetics due to their carb levels.
Is this a symptom of the disease? or a result of the restrictive diet diabetics generally are placed on?
Thanks for the reinforcement. It’s good to hear that minimizing carbs can work to eliminate this. I’m doing Phase I of South Beach and it does restrict carbs considerably. I’m not interested in bread, pasta, potatoes, and rice anyway, so no great loss. In the future, I’d be able to get by on 60 grams of carbohydrates a day.
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Thank you so much.
AGREED, and thank you so much!!!
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