Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

[mom4kittys]

Thread Number 3

[A Citizen Reporter]

Well said!

[sodpoodle]

“”””If my ex-husband’s mother demanded partial custody of my children because her son died I would tell her to jump in a lake....”

How would you feel about your mother asking him for partial custody if you died?

[gopheraj]

The video goes on to state that it is HKS who wants her to have no part in ANY of this. HKS!! This fight is between HKS and Virgie, HE is fighting her and holding things up, because he wants her to have NO PART IN ANY OF THIS, whereas, LB said it was a good day for him.

HKS knows if anyone other than he has control over the money then what he was doing both during the time ANS was doped up and after her death will come to light. He does NOT want that.

[TheSpottedOwl]

There is such a phenomenon described as the "psychopathic stare"- cold, fixed, almost reptilian. Trust your instincts and gut. And I see the same thing you do.

Aaah yes. The ten mile stare. I'm personally familiar with that. I also noticed goatboy's eyes in several photos. Cold eyes, fake smile.

[Luvlyness]

"Virgie is mad because larry won't give her control over 1/2 of the babies money -- which right now the only certain money that child has is $1.7 million Larry had OK Magazine deposit into a trustfund in Dannielynn's name."

There was also a trust fund started for DL by HKS that is reported to contain the proceeds from the funeral media coverage. According to Krista Barth (I saw the interview with my own 2 eyes) they asked Atty Milstein to be the trustee of the fund and he accepted. He will receive a fee for his services ... Yep, he got his hand in the till too. His job was done when the funeral was over. He could have said no to any involvement after that point.

[gopheraj]

IMO, the base that Virgie is covering is this: Virgie co-executor of Anna's estate - a move to twart Stern's future interest and force immediate accountability of the expenditures/assets, (activity in the past year, etc.)

I agree also. ALthough I am a big fan of LB and glad he is going to finally get his daughter, I don't think he has the guts/balls to go after HKS. I think he will just be happy to have DL and what money he already has and can make in the future. IMO, he won't do anything to look into the money dealings that HKS was doing and HKS knows that. It is VA that is the thorn in his (HKS) side and he KNOWS she will go after the truth. I do not think at all that Virgie is after any money. If that was the case, she would have been schmoozing up to ANS during the Marshall years (at least) She has a cops mentality and will use it. As far as he wanting custody, she has seen what happened to ANS and Daniel and may tihnk the same thing could happen to LB. Then HKS could try to step in and take over. The custody (on paper) will prevent it. HKS is the only one who is being thwarted this past week and VA is the reason.

[A Citizen Reporter]

There is a lot of selective memory going on, on this thread.

Immediately upon the release of the DNA results, HKS statements were that there would be a 2-4 week transition time. We all asked why, and what did HKS have to do with it? And why was it neccessary?

Now that FACT is completely glossed over and all the blame is laid at Virgie's feet.

[gopheraj]

Is it possible she chose that particular drug because it is so hard to detect and no one would be looking to find it in her system?

Very good question! IMO, that could show she had some kind of intent or at the least knew that something could happen and was CHA. Another thing on the "intent". We know that HKS was a leech and was living off of ANS. Maybe KE had a thing for HKS and wanted to make sure she could step in with HKS. Just thinking out loud. LOLL

[Luvlyness]

"Honestly, I don’t think that Anna was in any way, a ‘regular’ patient of Dr. Barrett’s. I believe, that Dr. Barrett was the ‘Psychiatrist’ on CALL when DANIEL died. I think he was the psychiatrist in the ‘closest vicinity’ and that is why he is the doctor that administered a sedative to Anna. Since he had ‘been there’ at the hospital when Daniel died, and therefore had ‘seen’ Anna before, it’s likely that he was ‘kept on’ as Anna’s psychiatrist aka ‘sedative giver’ until Daniel’s funeral was over at least! I would be surprised if Anna EVER saw Dr. Barrett prior to the night of Daniel’s death...or AFTER Daniel’s death, for that matter..."

Daniel's funeral did not take place until 6 weeks after his death. Dr. Barrett supposedly sedated ANS right before the funeral (the day of) and afterwards also.

In addition, I would really LOVE to know what he heard ANS say about HKS and Daniel's death.

[msgumshoe]

The one thing that we don’t know is how much of a role the judge has played in how the players are responding to one another.

HKS KNEW he was destined to lose his bid for custody based on his name on the birth certificate. It is also quite possible that he was ordered to cooperate with LB to visit the child at Horizons or face immediate removal of the child. Of those choices HKS would have taken the path that afforded him the opportunity to improve his horrendous image and fit right into his delay tactics.

Virgie also has figured out that custody is not an option but now wants a finger in the pie. My guess is that judge ordered HKS to allow LB to let her visit with the baby.

LB knows that Virgie is going to be a lifelong threat and that if she can keep her microscope trained on his life and finances she will jump at the chance to unseat him as custodial parent. A life dealing with her and Tex meddling would be miserable in my opinion.

It is all so very, very sad in so many ways.

[Sacajaweau]

Interesting my dear. Someday, I do believe we'll know exactly why it was named the cracker.

My instinct still says it's the connection with English Law, the Bahamas and English writers such as Dickens and Shakespeare. In Shakespeare's "Life of King John", reference to the "Cracker" being an illegitimate heir is like viewing what we have seen. And Dickens uses it in a court scene.

The fact that they used Shakespeare quotes in a 1997 Anna movie (Howard is now a presence) strengthens my convictions.

I do admire your research. )( Sac (That's my creative symbol for "hug".)

[sodpoodle]

“”””LB: (he said) he was confused yesterday that it hadn’t ended at that point.”””

I’ll cut him some slack for the stresses and roller-coaster ride he has been on for 15 months (pregnancy, birth,two deaths, funeral hearings, paternity hearings, custody hearings, media frenzy and lawyer fees).

Perhaps:
Because he wants get DL and himself away from HK$ ASAP he doesn’t want to upset the bastit. OTOH, he wants establish parameters with Virgie for their future relationship.

That’s all I can surmise.

[gopheraj]

I have not seen anything on what was in that brown jar and you would think the police would have taken it for investigation.

[msgumshoe]

On the LB and HKS relationship.

The potential scenarios are that:

1) LB is just doing what is necessary to get his daughter and that includes being nice to HKS. Once he has custody he will distance himself and let his attorneys handle things.

2) HKS has convinced LB that an alliance would be to his advantage because HKS is very familiar with the ANS empire and could keep it running. HKS may have offered his services at a greatly reduced rate (he has done this in the past to get his foot in the door with others). HKS would have pointed out that he has freely given up his attempt to keep the baby but that Virgie would NEVER give up and is his true enemy.

3) HKS is blackmailing LB. He has incriminating evidence of either drug use or homosexuality and has threatened to use it if he doesn’t give him what he wants. HKS would only do this if he had nothing to lose and LB kicked him entirely to the curb.

[sodpoodle]

“”””LB knows that Virgie is going to be a lifelong threat”””

“””and that if she can keep her microscope trained on his life and finances she will jump at the chance to unseat him as custodial parent.”””

Wow - Larry has said this?

[sodpoodle]

The office just called - my conjecture machine overheated so I have to leave.

BBL

[Sacajaweau]

All Larry meant was he hadn’t decided or didn’t know if he could hold the baby on his lap (under age 2)...or whether it would be better to buy the extra seat so the baby could sleep or whatever in the special baby seats. He’ll probably get the two seats and do what ever works best for the moment.

[Sacajaweau]

Just so interesting that KE left within a few hours of her death (say 12)...yet she called after she got to Ca BOTH the night before she died and the next morning and Howard said she was fine. (We still don't know EXACTLY when she left).

If she called at 9 am EDT, it would have been noon in CA.

Why even call twice in 24 hours? Grab the phone records and I'll bet we'll see something "strange" with the times.

[Sacajaweau]

I’ll bet you 10 to 1 that the Marshall Case is never pursued further.