Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

[mom4kittys]

Thread Number 3

[Kimberly GG]

ANS up next!

I don’t quite know what it is...maybe a repeat of Taz’s interview with Greta

[Kimberly GG]

Repeat of Taz interview with Greta. Maybe more to follow.

[sodpoodle]

Time for me to regroup, resuscitate, research and retire for the evening.

I hope everyone who is lurking, looking and losing it, will add their facts & opinions for a balanced appraisal of what we know vs. our gut instincts.

I believe that HK$ and KE were instrumental in Daniel’s & Anna’s deaths. I also believe that others were duped, coerced or fooled into aiding & abetting - hoping the alligator will eat them last.

Mark Fuhrman knows!

[lakey]

Did Perper's autopsy report say anything about ANS having an infection that would have caused her to have 105 degree temperature?

I tried to get the report but my server suddenly went down for almost an hour. Too late now for me to start over - it's 40 pages long!

[Freedom Dignity n Honor]

Well she had the infection from a shot on her buttock. I think it was a bad infection.

[lakey]

Thank you. I’m just wondering if the antibiotics had helped, and was this info in Perper’s report?

[Rte66]

Here’s the summary ...

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FINAL PATHOLOGICAL DIAGNOSES:

I. ACUTE COMBINED DRUG INTOXICATION
A. Toxic/lethal drug: Chloral Hydrate (Noctec)
1.Trichloroethanol (TCE) 75ug/mL (active metabolite)
2.Trichloroacetic acid ( TCA) 85ug/mL (inactive metabolite)

B. Therapeutic drugs :
1. Diphenhydramine (Bendaryl) 0.11 mg/L
2. Clonazepam (Klonopin) 0.04 mg/L
3. Diazepam (Valium)0.21 mg/L
4. Nordiazepam (metabolite) 0.38 mg/L
5. Temazepam (metabolite) 0.09 mg/L
6. Oxazepam 0.09 mg/L
7. Lorazepam22.0 ng/mL

C. Other non-contributory drugs present (atropine, topiramate, ciprofloxacin, acetaminophen)

II. LEFT GLUTEAL PANNICULITIS, WITH ABSCESS FORMATION AND RECENT LINEAR HEMORRHAGE

III.FIBROSIS WITH FAT NECROSIS (CHRONIC REPEATED INJECTIONS OF VARIOUS MEDICATIONS IN BUTTOCKS) OF DERMAL AND SUBCUTANEOUS TISSUES, BILATERAL GLUTEAL REGIONS AND ANTERIOR RIGHT THIGH

IV. GASTROENTERITIS, MILD, OF PROBABLE VIRAL ETIOLOGY

V. DEPRESSION FOLLOWING RECENT DELIVERY OF TERM INFANT AND RECENT DEATH OF ADULT SON (SEPTEMBER 2006)

VI. MODERATE CONGESTIVE HEPATOMEGALY (2550 GRAMS)

VII. FIBROUS PLEURAL ADHESIONS

VIII. CHRONIC THYROIDITIS (HASHIMOTO THYROIDITIS)

IX. WELL HEALED SUPRAPUBIC SCAR (STATUS POST CESAREAN SECTION)

X. MINIMAL, INSIGNIFICANT MYOCARDIAL FIBROSIS

XI. STATUS POST MEDICAL INTERVENTION
A. Endotracheal tube placement
B. Right jugular line placement
C. Cardiac Monitoring devices and defibrillator pad placement
D. Bilateral anterior elbow and left anterior wrist venipuncture sites with surrounding ecchymoses

XII. STATUS POST BILATERAL BREAST IMPLANTS WITH SCARRING, LEFT AREOLA

XIII. MICRO-INFARCT OF BRAIN, LEFT OCCIPITAL WHITE MATTER

XIV. MINOR CONTUSIONS, POSTERIOR SHOULDERS

OPINION:Vickie Lynn Marshall was a 39-year-old white female who died of acute combined drug intoxication. Abscesses of buttocks, and viral enteritis were contributory causes of death. The manner of death is determined to be: ACCIDENT

_______________________________________ Joshua A. Perper, M.D.,LL.B.,M.Sc. Date Chief Medical Examiner ______________________________________ Gertrude M. Juste, MD Date Associate Medical Examiner GMJ/JAP:jb2
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[lakey]

Wonderful - thanks.

[Rte66]

Ha, I was working on a post I wanted to make, commenting on many of the earlier posts, when a very LOUD thunder-boomer disturbed my thought processes quite by surprise (usually I can hear them in the distance first - this one came out of nowhere!).

Had to shut everything down and didn’t get back online till a little while ago. Now I’ve lost my focus for that post, which was kind of longish. (When I think I’ll only be able to post maybe once because of the PuterMonster, I try to put *everything* into it, lol.)

One thing I had been trying to find, which the PuterMonster totally squelched for me, was whether Pedialyte ever came in baby bottle-type containers. It kept taking my Google Images searches and putting them into eBay searches and taking over my whole screen. Grrr.

Then I was also trying to find an approximate date when Dr Kapoor took over Dr Kovner’s practice - and the “thing” kept shutting down my browser when I found the exact google hit I wanted! Three times I started over and three times it shut down my whole browser for that *one* find. Grrr again.

I had wanted to refute something I found which said that ANS got hooked on methadone in that hospital stay at Cedars Sinai in May 2006 (the HKS duffel bag visit time) when preggers with Dannielynn.

Kapoor had stated that methadone was prescribed for ANS by the doctor whose practice he took over - that he “inherited” her as a patient and just continued the procedures already in place. The best I could find was that Kovner retired to San Diego about 2000 or 2001.

IOW, Anna was already using methadone long before last year.

Anyway, I will post perhaps tomorrow before “Storm Time” which is every afternoon, but also some mornings these days! I wanted to give a timeline of Tas-Moe-Anna interactions, because it’s a little confusing.

I don’t think the problem with KE and Tas meeting was KE not leaving when she said she did, but Tas actually meeting her a day earlier and not wanting to say so, for some reason. It may also just be a mistake or misinterpretation, but I wanted to walk through it, anyway, for clarification.

Hoping the weather and the Monster will let me post it! I’m going up the wall over getting the Case Name List done before 7/16 when the Monster won’t let me do normal google searches without hijacking them or repeatedly interrupting them. *more later*

[nature]

Six pages but worth the read

http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/2007-04-12/news/seminole-hold-em/1

[nature]

Pedialyte.com

does not have premix in a baby bottle.
Freeze pops and squeeze bottles and reg bottles is all they offer.

[gopheraj]

mark

[Sacajaweau]

Don't forget that Howard (in Seidlin's Court) said that Anna had not used Methadone since Daniel died. He was very explicit about the TIME in this case...one of the few times.

Of course, the inference IS that Daniel died from the meth overdose and it was Anna's fault.

Both statements become false with this LIE. It was not her fault. And meth was still in her system when she died. Did KE ever say SHE was giving her meth?? Or didn't anyone ask her....since she's blaming the Meth on the prescription from Kapoor....which SHE ordered.

[ken5050]

Well, then..why don't the two of you send Mark an e-mail..I'm sure he has a website..most authors do nowadays..give him a link to this thread..and to the relevant posts you've made...tell him that you'd both be willing to work as "unpaid" cyber researchers for him..as an example, here are fine examples of your skills and talents as researchers...though of course you hope that WHEN the book is the huge success you JUST KNOW it will be, it'd be real nice if he then paid you for your efforts.

PS...If this makes me your agent..remember I get 10%.

[ken5050]

FYI..my “first time” was the summer of 1964...in the back seat of a Studebaker Lark...with Elaine Fayman....

[sodpoodle]

According to the transcript - Moe called Taz on Wednesday when Howie & Khris were giving Anna an ice-bath.

Elsewhere, according to KE, on Wednesday Anna was washing her hair in the tub, no mention of the 105 fever and ice-bath - to justify her leaving the scene.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288413,00.html

VAN SUSTEREN: He (MOE) had been up — he had been at the hotel how many days in advance of you?

BRIGHTHAUPT: I think one day.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did he call you on the phone and tell you how Anna was or talk about her being sick?

BRIGHTHAUPT: Yes, he did.

VAN SUSTEREN: The day before?

BRIGHTHAUPT: The day before.

VAN SUSTEREN: Tell me what he said in the conversation, how he described things.

BRIGHTHAUPT: Well, he just called and he asked me if I thought it was a good idea for him to let them put Anna in ice because Anna’s temperature was 105. And I said, Well, no. I said, In the hospital, we don’t do that anymore. We give a tepid bath and we give a sponge bath in the bed. You
can put her in tepid water, but you don’t put ice in the water.

So he says — and I heard him, you know, screaming and saying, My wife said not to put ice in the water. And I heard her in the background, like, “Please, please, take me out, take me out, and, I’m cold,” or something to
that — something to that — you know, she said. And my husband said, My wife says not to put ice in the water. And then he said, Tas, I have to go, and let me try to convince them, you know, not to put ice in the water
and to get her out of water, so...

[TexKat]

Maurice Brighthaupt (MOE)EMS recounted the night that Smith died. He found her on the BATHROOM FLOOR of her Florida hotel room and saw that her lips were discolored. “I looked at her lips. If you know Anna, she has the most beautiful pink, full lips.

ABC Exclusive: Smith's Bodyguard Says Baby's Father Is Howard K. Stern

Brighthaupt recounted the night that Smith died. He found her on the bathroom floor of her Florida hotel room and saw that her lips were discolored.

"I looked at her lips. If you know Anna, she has the most beautiful pink, full lips. … [But] they were blue. I knew I had to go to action," he said.

also an ABC Exclusive

ABC Exclusive: Anna Nicole, Shortly Before Death: 'It's Always a Battle'

Sources told "Entertainment Tonight" that Smith was suffering from flu-like symptoms upon her arrival at her Florida hotel on Monday, but her fever had broken by Wednesday. That afternoon, she fell in the bathroom and hit her head. She said she was feeling fine, had a meal and went back to bed.

On Thursday, she retired to her bedroom to take a nap. When she did not wake after a few hours, she was checked on and found to be unresponsive.

[shywolf]

They found her on the bathroom floor dead? I thought she was in the bed.

And i like the part about she fell and hit her head and went to sleep. You dont let a person who hit there head sleep unless you are watching them, waking them up several times and such.

[shywolf]

i had a thought. Moe and Taz say CPR was started....if they were “part of the plan” then they would NOT want her to come back, rite?

So how well did they perform the CPR? And if they called HKS, either he knew it was way to late and CPR would not help or he would have to stall them and the EMT's so it would be not effective.
I mean if Anna was brought back to life she would of had a story to tell I'm sure.

[shywolf]

oh i see on Tues she did not urinate and had a foul smell to her. That tells me she was NOT getting fluids?
I still cant believe with the small amount of “red flag” facts that no foul play was found? That’s nuts!!
I mean who put her in the tub when she hit her head? Who leaves a sick person to get in the tub alone...or bathe alone. With no fluids and feeding her a baby bottle (of who knows what) The woman smelled, was in a filthy bed, with friends that cared about her coming and going and no foul play?!?!?!?!?!