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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys

Edited on 03/09/2007 9:36:53 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: txrangerette
Peterson developed what he thought was an elaborate plot. Things were going pretty good. Even His wife's parents supported him. When Twiggy stepped to the mike, showed the Christmas pictures and then said that Scott had said his wife had died (before she was missing), it was all over but remained circumstantial.

And Scott remained a free man....until the Hand of God freed mother and child from their bonds and gently waved the bodies unto the shore".

Hang on!! God rarely lets us down. Hang on!! God believes in Motherhood!! It was his greatest gift.

4,601 posted on 03/17/2007 2:54:31 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: sodpoodle
Judy Banderas on Fox and 3 other regular female attys - made a comment that with all the exposure in such a high profile case, no atty would remove herself - Larry had to fire her.

If true, then Larry probably made a deal with Stern. How else is he going to come up with the money to pay Opri's fees which I imagine are quite steep? I don't imagine she will be in the frame of mind to let him pay $5.00 a week if he fired her.

4,602 posted on 03/17/2007 2:55:09 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: An American In Dairyland

Have no idea what an atty's contract looks like. Do they not have "billable hours" like CPAs?

Anyone?

Does a contingency arrangement count if you separate before a court settlement?



4,603 posted on 03/17/2007 2:59:42 PM PDT by sodpoodle (sittin' in the sun, spittin' in the wind)
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To: TrishaSC
Meanwhile jib man Adderley noted, “It was big surprise to hear of her passing because had just met her a week before

Any word on how sick Anna was prior to Monday, Feb 5th, the day of her supposed 105 degree temp?

4,604 posted on 03/17/2007 3:00:45 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Still unknown - plus it is still unknown who owns the property - I thought for sure Jean from CTV would learn who owned it on Friday as Pinder told her he would tell her but she probably wants to investigate what Pinder tells her before announcing it on TV.


4,605 posted on 03/17/2007 3:01:41 PM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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To: TexKat

Didn't KE say that they had to ice her down to get her on the plane to go to Florida? Not sure of the date. I can't get over the way her face looked from this visit and the previous visit to the Hard Rock. Something was going on.


4,606 posted on 03/17/2007 3:09:43 PM PDT by TrishaSC (ANNAmanics!! Tonight we dine in the Bahamas!! ---- King Leonidas)
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To: stlnative
I think Mo and Taz are soooooo important in this AND they will not lie. The early stories...Well, I think Howard grabbed Taz and Mo and told them what to say...more or less.

He sent Mo with the body and told him to say nothing. Howard went to the hospital later and it was there that he told Mo what to say.

He stayed with Taz and told her exactly what to say. I don't think Taz was as close to the body as we think.

Would like to see the phone calls between KE and Howard. KE said she called the hotel after she got home to check on Anna. I think that had to be on the morning of the day she died because she had just left on Wednesday. In fact, I'm guessing that it had to be pretty close to the time she died. Was the phone call in the lobby by Howard to KE?? The one where he was pacing??

Wonder if the same scenario occurred with Daniel.

4,607 posted on 03/17/2007 3:12:26 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: All

I smell something.....Dang, it smells like Corned Beef and Cabbage!!! It's permeated my complex!!


4,608 posted on 03/17/2007 3:15:43 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: sodpoodle
Have no idea what an atty's contract looks like. Do they not have "billable hours" like CPAs? Anyone? Does a contingency arrangement count if you separate before a court settlement?

Go my child and educate thyself!

Attorney-Client Contract

4,609 posted on 03/17/2007 3:19:09 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: stlnative
Still unknown - plus it is still unknown who owns the property

I saw the name of the property posted on our threads a couple of times, but cannot remember what it is.

4,610 posted on 03/17/2007 3:22:17 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

I read the contract. It made no reference to termination of the attorney's contract. i.e. in that event what would be billable.

It just laid out the responsibilities to effect a satisfactory contract between the city and Nextel.

Do I get my diploma?

lol


4,611 posted on 03/17/2007 3:27:56 PM PDT by sodpoodle (sittin' in the sun, spittin' in the wind)
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To: uncitizen

That sounds like ANS's friend Hatten.... she said similar things on TV.


4,612 posted on 03/17/2007 3:28:48 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: TexKat; Lizarde

Demerol Facts and some thoughts on what is rumored

By IV

I.V.: If necessary, meperidine may be given i.v., but the injection should be given very slowly, preferably in the form of a diluted solution. Rapid i.v. injection of narcotic analgesics, including meperidine, increases the incidence of adverse reactions; severe respiratory depression, apnea, hypotension, peripheral circulatory collapse, and cardiac arrest have occurred. Meperidine should not be administered i.v. unless a narcotic antagonist and the facilities for assisted or controlled respiration are immediately available. When meperidine is given parenterally, especially i.v., the patient should be lying down.


By Injection

I.M.: Meperidine should be injected well within the body of a large muscle.


Rumor is Perper was asking if Anna normally used alcohol swabs before injecting herself with Demerol. So this tells me that he found an injection site (pin prick hole) that she could reach on her body and that the injection site was NOT swabbed with a alcohol pad. He knows that Demerol was what was injected at the found injection site because it must have not spread throughout the muscle under the injection site because their is claim that it may have been injected within 2 minutes of her death. (meaning it did not spread throughout body because she died shortly after it was injected) They suspect that 75ml (75cc) of Demerol was injected in to her. 75ml of Demerol is not that high of a dose for an adult - typical dosage for a Demerol injection is 50ml to 100ml.

IMO... Demerol is not what killed her, but it shows that someone may have been injecting her with whatever to cause her to die faster or the were doing it thinking they were helping her or she injected herself.

There has to be a used syringe in the hotel room - I have no idea if they found one or not. If they did not find one with Demerol residue on it, then someone is trying to cover something up. (as we know)
If a syringe was found who's finger prints are on it?


4,613 posted on 03/17/2007 3:30:14 PM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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To: sodpoodle

Not just yet! :o)


4,614 posted on 03/17/2007 3:31:19 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: sodpoodle; TexKat
Thanks much for trying to find all those threads about Daniel Smith's death....and for this one. TexKat found a bunch of them and pinged me - so I have spent much of the afternoon reading them.

The big thing that struck me was that Daniel's initial autopsy results came in very quickly but that the final autopsy results were not to be disclosed til the inquest. Then, of course, Wecht was brought in by ANS and Stern and his results have been made public. So that's why we know about the Methadone in daniel's system.

And just like in Anna's death - there were conflicting reports about what happened the day Daniel died -

1. Was Daniel in a chair or in Anna's bed?

2. Was there blood and vomit around the room or nothing like that?

3. Did Anna scream at Howard - "YOU DID THIS" or not

4. Why did Daniel have bruises under his arms and on his hips when all said there were no signs of violence?

And then just general questions such as - Why has the Coroner's inquest which was scheduled for October still not been done 5 months later?

My answer - the Bahamian Government is totally corrupt. That fact was mentioned by a Freeper in one of those threads who said everything in the Bahamas was up for sale. Others said we will likely never know what really happened to Daniel.

Oh and the point made several times by Stern by Trimspa guy and by Michael Scott- then Anna's attorney re: Daniels death - that Anna was so upset and had to be sedated so strongly that she lost all memory of the fact that Daniel had died.

That last fact appears to me to have been Stern's plan to make her an unreliable "witness" in the upcoming death inquest.

Somewhere along the way, IMHO, Stern's plan changed as he became convinced Anna had to go. She could not be allowed to testify at the Daniel death inquest.

I would like to know what Linda Virgil's position is now. The Bahamas closed down their coroner's office and changed procedures after she came out so loudly about the death being "suspicious" and then was basically told to shut up and not say that any more.

Does anybody know where Linda Virgil of the Bahamas government is now? Does she still have an investigative job? She is the ONLY Bahamian official that appears to me to be somebody who would push to get the truth.

The Ferguson guy of the Bahamian police dept is evidently (IMHO) corrupt. 5.

4,615 posted on 03/17/2007 3:31:25 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: TexKat

Oh... unproven rumor is that Stern's cousin owns it


4,616 posted on 03/17/2007 3:32:34 PM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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4,617 posted on 03/17/2007 3:33:42 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: stlnative

So far I have not heard of a doctor filling the prescriptions and only that KE faxed the list directly to Key Pharmacy when drs would not fill it. I have no idea if any of that is fact.


4,618 posted on 03/17/2007 3:38:17 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Terrific analysis - it becomes more clear how corrupt or incompetent the Bahamian system is after the time lapse.

I believe that Anna was drugged to within an inch of her life to prevent her from testifying at Daniel's first scheduled inquest. The talk of "amnesia" was a preliminary effort. Then, as the inquest was postponed Anna probably reflected on what actually happened, HK$ got more terrified and took the final, fatal step.


4,619 posted on 03/17/2007 3:42:03 PM PDT by sodpoodle (sittin' in the sun, spittin' in the wind)
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To: Toespi

Ha! Welcome. And, duck! (but we know you're joshing us)


4,620 posted on 03/17/2007 3:43:17 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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