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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys

Edited on 03/09/2007 9:36:53 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: stlnative

Well we know Howie "isn't a doctor" but with respect to injections; they can be intramuscular or intravenous and if one is either stupid or malignant an IM injection done IV would be fatal.

Any RNs out there who could provide more information?


2,821 posted on 03/15/2007 10:38:51 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Official Thread Nanny under threat of extinction)
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To: Lizarde

" OK so what's with injectible demoral and alcohol wipes?'

When Dr Perper first released his findings, IIRC he said something about no obvious drug use-which meant to me that he did not find needle track marks.
He may have found some unexplained areas of infection .
And since Dr Perper did not understand the extent and context of ANS's drug use,at that time, he might not have had an explanation for the suspicious areas.
If he now knows she was regularly getting IM injections and proper techniques were not used, it would explain skin abcesses .
And if she was getting deep muscle injections- most likely someone else was doing the injecting.


2,822 posted on 03/15/2007 10:39:25 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: uncitizen

"Anna would fit in their like a big square block into a small round hole."

Right! I heard the papparrazzi story, too, then it seemed to morph into the rehab story. HKS an enabler, OH NO, he was trying to help her.

Was it at the 'body possession' hearing that this story first surfaced?


2,823 posted on 03/15/2007 10:42:33 AM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: All
The very fact that Perper hasn't filed his report is because he has to put his name to it and he was hired by Howard Stern for both deaths.

The two deaths are comparable in too many ways. It could drive the case for an INDEPENDENT autopsy.

And since Perper and Howard would be the chief witnesses at Daniel's inquest...and if Howard was feeding Perper false information....well...It looks like just another case of "The Director" at his best!!

I wouldn't be surprised if Perper wants to re-evaluate Daniel's autopsy and even change it.

2,824 posted on 03/15/2007 10:42:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: tabor

ANS was VERY narcissistic. I do not see her suicidal at all. Depressed, yes, but suicidal no. Even if she had talked about it, I 'm sure it was for attention. She insisted that people wait on her hand and foot. She was taking dance lessons, botoxing or whatever she was doing to her lips etc... Not the actions of a suicidal person.


2,825 posted on 03/15/2007 10:43:31 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: mom4kittys

When there is a an injection site found this what happens...

The cell area around the injection site would be more sterile that other areas on the body.

They take skin cell scraping from around the immediate injection site, then they take skin cell scrapings from area near the injection site (from a outside an area that is at least 2" in diameter away from the injection site)

These skin cells are then examined against each other. The skin cells coming from the area right at the injection site should be more sterile if a alcohol swab was used.

Then they also take tissue and muscle samples from the area under the injection site to determine what drug was injected in to that area.


2,826 posted on 03/15/2007 10:43:43 AM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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To: Southerngl

Yes - O.J. lives in a nice house and plays golf - but Southerngl you have a clear conscience and lots of friends.


You win!


2,827 posted on 03/15/2007 10:44:47 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Official Thread Nanny under threat of extinction)
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To: windchime
Taz may have been trying, but if her computer skills are similar to her 'nursing' skills . . .

OK, so now that we know that what the investigators found interesting was emails that Anna recv'd or made regarding her prescriptions. So Taz may have been deleting those. Like you say if her computer skills are anything like her nursing skills she wouldn't know that you can delete something but it don't go away that easily!

What has always bothered me was that Taz told Brigitte to be quiet because Anna was asleep. Being on the computer could've awakened her. If she was really concerned about Anna not waking up she could've taken the computer into the other room and did whatever she was doing on the computer,no? Why was she doing it right next to Anna's bed? Was she afraid Anna would go out on the balcony and scream for help? Or did she know that Anna was dead?

2,828 posted on 03/15/2007 10:44:54 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: All

IT'S BACK!!!!

http://ishowardksternamurderer.com/


2,829 posted on 03/15/2007 10:46:00 AM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Firm Member: CIO (Chief Information Officer))
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To: Sacajaweau

Perper wasn't hired by Stern. He's paid by Broward County.


2,830 posted on 03/15/2007 10:46:05 AM PDT by tabor
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To: sodpoodle

Demerol is not injected into the veins... I don't even think it has to be put into a muscle put for it to work faster a muscle injection might be best. You can to that easily yourself by hitting your thigh muscle or another muscle.


2,831 posted on 03/15/2007 10:46:57 AM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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To: windchime; All
Right! I heard the papparrazzi story, too, then it seemed to morph into the rehab story. HKS an enabler, OH NO, he was trying to help her. Was it at the 'body possession' hearing that this story first surfaced?

Anyone remember where/when the Dubai story (that it was to evade the media) came out?

2,832 posted on 03/15/2007 10:47:28 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: stlnative

I figured their had to be a reson for him asking for this. I just assumed that they could pick up alcohol residue or somthing from the skin.


2,833 posted on 03/15/2007 10:47:50 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: mom4kittys
Stunning Development in Anna Nicole Case - partial transcript from "On the Record," March 14, 2007
2,834 posted on 03/15/2007 10:50:25 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: uncitizen

I have a feeling that "right next to Anna's bed" means very little. Show me the layout of the roomS and then tell me where you all were.


2,835 posted on 03/15/2007 10:51:19 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: mom4kittys

I've thought about that, too. Still can't rule it out(suicide). We've been hashing this out due to the National Enquirer report, not knowing how true that report may be. Up until the last few days, I pretty much was sticking to the theory of accidental death, due to a combo of factors.


2,836 posted on 03/15/2007 10:51:23 AM PDT by tabor
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To: TexKat

Thank you!


2,837 posted on 03/15/2007 10:54:12 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: Southerngl

YAYNESS! I'm gonna go head over there now!


2,838 posted on 03/15/2007 10:55:20 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: sarasota
The relationship is classic co-dependency.

Yes, UNTIL she figured out that HKS offed her son. For all we know, she had someone hire a private investigator look into Daniels death. We know she had the private autopsy done. Maybe she asked Wecht to get a PI involved too. Or she just put two and two together in one of her sober moments.

2,839 posted on 03/15/2007 10:55:28 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: uncitizen

"If she was really concerned about Anna not waking up she could've taken the computer into the other room and did whatever she was doing on the computer,no? Why was she doing it right next to Anna's bed? Was she afraid Anna would go out on the balcony and scream for help? Or did she know that Anna was dead?"

Good questions! Hope someone investigating asks them.


2,840 posted on 03/15/2007 10:55:57 AM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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