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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys

Edited on 03/09/2007 9:36:53 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Kimberly GG

What ever happened to that 'report' that she was seen by a hotel employee drinking shots at the bar on Wednesday night? Has that ever been confirmed or denied? It doesn't sound likely, given her state at the time...but I wonder if this story wasn't 'put out there' by HKS and co. to show that she was FINE and HEALTHY on Wednesday, but then she took 'too much medicine' and it killed her???


12,881 posted on 03/28/2007 1:11:11 AM PDT by kcw2007
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To: Irish Eyes

mark


12,882 posted on 03/28/2007 1:15:31 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: blueplum

I think Stern saying she had a 'rough night' means SHE DIDN'T DIE LIKE WE EXPECTED HER TO! Maybe she was seizing and trashing...but didn't DIE like she was supposed to do....therefore, he had to give her something to 'relax her and calm her down'...to HELP her go about DYING...like she was SUPPOSED TO DO earlier!!


12,883 posted on 03/28/2007 1:18:02 AM PDT by kcw2007
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To: Sacajaweau; All

Also, ANS went to the hospital when she was pregnant (per Larry Birkhead). I'm not sure WHY she went to the hospital at that particular time, but Larry Birkhead stated that she called him and she told him that 'baby was OK', and he (LB) gave the impression that she wanted to 'detox' or get off drugs for the sake of the baby (although it seems that HKS was more than willing to 'sabotage' those efforts!). So, my question is this...how is that Anna ended up at a HOSPITAL WITH HKS when he has asserted that she did not like hosptials and that everyone around her should NOT call 911 per her request??? How did she end up in a hospital 'literally' a month before she left LA for the Bahamas?? Especially since Anna WOULD NEVER WANT to go to a hospital under any circumstances...esp in LA where the 'media' is ever-present?? I personally think she went to the hospital for something that 'scared' her about the pregnancy and she was possibley quite lucid at that time and she really wanted to do the right thing for her and Larry's baby. Unfortunately, the presense of HKS made that impossible. And I also believe that this trip to the hospital and 'attempt to get clean' is what pushed Howard over the edge. He may have realized that not only was ANS in love and trying to get her life together, BUT she also was carrying yet ANOTHER 'blood relative' that would be an heir to the Marshall money....that he, himself, had fought so hard for......I guess the rest is history....


12,884 posted on 03/28/2007 2:12:10 AM PDT by kcw2007
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To: sissyjane
When it comes to rumor mongering, you can blame Dr. Perper's report. It is unfortunate that he revealed the lack a logical mind and isn't up to the job. Yes, it could also be something worse. Reaction to his babble led me to post here and speculate about the case. The deaths are a puzzle and only natural to speculated on discussion threads.
12,885 posted on 03/28/2007 2:53:21 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: kcw2007

Excuse me if this question has already been discussed. But did they find containers for all the drugs in Anna Nicole's system? Could her parents request that the FBI get involved? I too am sick and tired of the rich being treated differently.


12,886 posted on 03/28/2007 3:00:34 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: apocalypto

Morning apocalypto, welcome to FR!

I don't know about containers for each of the meds.

I suppose that if the FBI aren't already involved, then her parents might be able to request it.


12,887 posted on 03/28/2007 3:58:13 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
"Mr. OQuinn - needs to be noptified of the Methadone detox theory for all the illness, vomiting, etc.....eyes closed,..night"

He's taking e-mail questions on Greta's show tonight. Send your questions to Greta ontherecord@foxnews.com

12,888 posted on 03/28/2007 3:59:38 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Dale Jr~ 5-31-07 ~ MIDNIGHT GIT-R-DONE --- Member of the F-I-R-M)
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To: sissyjane

"There is no evidence that Anna Nicloe Smith was being de-toxed. That's what I'm calling speculation.

If you have proof of this, I'd love to see the link? If not, then it's gossip or rumor or speculation, and will help solve nothing."

Welcome to the ANS Thread...just to let you know how we work....we gossip, we speculate, we poke fun at, and generally opine in any way we choose about the cast of characters in this case. However, doing so, does not interfere with our ability to research and find evidence in support of the facts of this case. Group-thinking, out loud, in any form, has, IMO, resulted in our ability to 'connect the dots' and discovery of very important and factual information relative to this case. And generally, we are not critical of each other's opinions and methods.


12,889 posted on 03/28/2007 4:24:06 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

So Virgie IS STILL ONE HELLUVA COP even in her grief - bet Mark Fuhrman is in her corner and working background.


12,890 posted on 03/28/2007 4:28:23 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Humor - is more better than Snide)
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To: kcw2007

A late welcome to FR to you as well!

DU is usually in reference to Democratic Underground, a very leftist website.


12,891 posted on 03/28/2007 4:28:39 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: uncitizen

""""""Of course, he could answer the questions the way Barfbag answers questions..."""""

Virgie better have one brilliant atty permitted to cross-examine him....or is only the judge/jury allowed to do that?


12,892 posted on 03/28/2007 4:30:22 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Humor - is more better than Snide)
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To: shywolf
"dint they say Anna Nicole had alot of scaring where she was gettin the shots in her butt? And that last one pieced that abscess? Did they say who gave her the shots? (sorry if it was posted here already) Apparently whoever it was didnt know how to give a shot? I would think you would not use the same side ALL the time? "

She had scars on both sides according to the report. It was either on NG or GVS where they asked Perper how a righthanded person could inject themselves in the left buttocks. He kind of stammered around and said it could be possible to use your left hand to do it. AND, he said it didn't matter to him who gave her that injection as it wasn't his job as coroner to determine that. [paraphrasing that by memory]

BTW< I must say welcome to all the new posters here on FR. I don't think I have ever seen so many new people all at once. This IS a very interesting case for sure!

12,893 posted on 03/28/2007 4:32:31 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Dale Jr~ 5-31-07 ~ MIDNIGHT GIT-R-DONE --- Member of the F-I-R-M)
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To: kcw2007
"Are you talking about Daniel W. Smith, and wondering if the Bahamian Toxicology Expert tested HIM for chloral hydrate? If so, I am wondering the same thing!! Especially, since Daniel was reported to ask HKS.."Why am I so sleepy?"..."

Hmmm that is interesting............I wonder what a Chloral Hydrate/Methadone cocktail tastes like through a straw in a Wendy's cup?

12,894 posted on 03/28/2007 4:37:06 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Dale Jr~ 5-31-07 ~ MIDNIGHT GIT-R-DONE --- Member of the F-I-R-M)
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To: Kimberly GG
Thanks!

There are too many shortcomings in our justice system. JonBennet's murder was bungled by investigators and the DA; Mike Nifong's actions were atrocious and yet the lacrosse players still face charges; Johnny Sutton going after the Border Patrol agents is beyond comprehension, and Sutton is getting away with it; and now we have Dr. Joshua Perper who lives in a fantasy world (assuming he has no connection to Howard Stern) with his babble. One need not be a ME or some kind of expert to recognize the flaws in Dr. Perper's thinking.

Not the first time the ME has come to the wrong conclusion. The death of marine Todd Sommer in 2002 was at first found to be natural causes. But a year or two later a test was performed that discovered he was poisoned. His wife was convicted this year.

12,895 posted on 03/28/2007 4:39:20 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Rte66
Oh, that nasty little fax with that nasty little date. My fax system is OLD and the only problem I ever have is when the time changes in spring and fall.

There is likely another communication for that fax because SOMEONE had to say: Hey, send me...you can fax it to...

And there's normally a cover sheet with either a typed or handwritten date.

Wills are not normally sent via fax. They are usually via overnight mail.

12,896 posted on 03/28/2007 4:44:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: windchime
Thanks for posting that...........I tried to get in to their site but found we've been banned.

The most troubling part is......I wonder where Virgill is these days.

"The rumours are fueled by the fact that the results of the toxicology report have been delayed twice and will not be made public, the Coroner was dismissed, the coroner's inquest was cancelled and a disreputable 'freelance' coroner may have been brought in from the US to perhaps create a more palatable story as to how Daniel died."

12,897 posted on 03/28/2007 4:45:06 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Dale Jr~ 5-31-07 ~ MIDNIGHT GIT-R-DONE --- Member of the F-I-R-M)
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To: sissyjane

I don't think she was being de-toxed for the purpose of her going straight...I think they wanted it out of her system because Danny had it in his and Howard had wanted to be able to say that...After Danny died, she wanted to go straight...She blamed herself. That's matches the 5 month court statement.


12,898 posted on 03/28/2007 4:48:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: windchime

"So Much For Investigative Journalism
It is a bit strange that no one in the international media sees any connection between the cancellation of the Coroner's inquest into the death of Daniel Smith, and the abrupt disbanding of the Coroner's court.

It is a shame that these professional journalists from around the world do not see a red flag in the flip-flopping of statements from Bahamian officials and the ever-changing story of what happened in that hospital room the night Daniel died.

It is scary that the world's press is so gullible, and so naive, that they do not question the unusual delay in the completion of the toxicology report, or the hiring of an allegedly untrustworthy pathologist to possibly fabricate a death certificate.

No wonder it took years to figure out the details behind the deaths of John Kennedy, Elvis Presley, Marilyn Monroe and others. There are too many reporters willing to bury the facts at the request of celebrities in exchange for later press access. And in The Bahamas, there are too many government officials willing to cover-up scandals and break the law for a buck."


WOW...this is one reporter we need to watch closely for the TRUTH! Also, I had no idea about the information he reported on Wecht!


12,899 posted on 03/28/2007 4:53:34 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: shywolf
The problem with the 105 temp is that Howard's sister Bonnie said it was on the night before she died and she could have ONLY gotten that from her brother.

And notice that Bonnie has "shut up".

P.S. I looked up a methadone withdrawal case. Fever 104-106. Flu symptoms. I think they were merely trying to get the sh** out of her system before she died....so it didn't match Daniel's cr**. Anna didn't know what the sh** was going on.

12,900 posted on 03/28/2007 4:55:56 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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