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Poohbah's Opus
Vanity of vanities, all is vanity, sayeth Qohotoleth... | 01 April 2005 | Poohbah

Posted on 04/01/2005 4:26:00 PM PST by Poohbah

First, this is NOT an April Fool's joke.

I am leaving Free Republic.

Over the past two years, civility and thoughtful discourse has vanished from this site, replaced with demands for ideological conformity that are straight out of Stalinist Russia or China's Great Cultural Revolution, and unrelenting uncivility if said conformance is not forthcoming. This trend began with the California recall election, where certain posters were allowed to flame the living beejezus out of those who didn't wholeheartedly support Tom McClintock, or thought that he wasn't running a campaign capable of winning. It extended into the Keyes campaign last year, where any critique of Keyes' campaign strategy was shrilly flamed, despite the obviously flawed execution of his campaign.

(Aside: one person who flamed me during the Keyes mess later said that he hadn't intended to start a fight with his remarks that accused me of homosexuality, pedophilia, and other evils; I was instantly reminded of the time I had to bail one of my Marines out of the local lockup. "Honest, Sarge," this Marine told me, "I didn't mean to start a fight when I called that Army Ranger a faggot." My response was not [and still isn't] suitable for public consumption.)

Since then, the Terri Schiavo case has pushed FR over the edge. We had posts calling for people to ensure that "accidents" to befall Schiavo and Judge Greer. We had posts praying that Iran would soon develop nuclear weapons, so that they could destroy the United States. And until the FBI started making arrests, those posts were allowed to stay up, completely abnegating Free Republic's standards.

We had people on both sides of the issue point out that the Schindlers were associating with some people of extremely low character, and that our uncritical embrace of these parties would not rebound to our favor. Rather reasonable attitudes to take, actually; but the loudest of the loud were in no mood to think.

My personal favorite was the following exchange:


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To: Old Professer
Is being a christian identity sympathizer, a white supremicist, a neo-nazi, a racist or an anti-semite illegal activities in themselves?

The issue is not legality, but public opinion. Which will not be helped in this case if the pro-Terry side becomes associated in the media with Christian Identity, white supremicists, neo-nazis, racists and/or anti-semites.

212 posted on 03/17/2005 11:05:13 AM PST by malakhi
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To: malakhi
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Terri's fight being associated with Christianity. That is unless someone is a radical leftist.
229 posted on 03/17/2005 12:02:29 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross
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Diva Betsy Ross made a valiant attempt to...ahem...whitewash Christian Identity, but it didn't work.

To top things off, we had people embracing as some sort of conservative icon, to the extent of posting a fundraising link.

I always thought that conservatism valued thinking over feeling, careful contemplation of facts over wild-eyed repetition of every damn rumor to come down the pipe, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. For a while, Free Republic met those criteria in spades.

Those days are long gone, and I have serious doubt as to whether or not they're coming back.

I know that many of the usual suspects will cheer this on, as their longtime nemesis is leaving them the field.

Be careful what you wish for; you are in the process of getting it. You may succeed in driving the folks who disagree with you from the site; but you will end up being just another collection of shrill voices in Bedlam. When everything is an over-the-top scream, no one will be heard.

Farewell.


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To: anniegetyourgun
Which people of faith are no longer allowed to post in the religion forum?

Radical Catholics who trash other Catholics.

401 posted on 04/01/2005 5:37:24 PM PST by sinkspur (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: SaveTheChief

did the FBI really make arrests?


402 posted on 04/01/2005 5:37:47 PM PST by queenkathy (I'm working on the forgiveness thing (Nevermind...I'm not)!)
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To: cyncooper

I admit it isn't good to call your spouse a nazi but sometimes it helps to consider that any time someone is intensely emotional they are also insane.

I am sorry that anyone treated you so rudely. I too saw some of the hyperbole and name calling flying around and thought it terribly inappropriate.

I still hate to see you go and wish you would reconsider.


403 posted on 04/01/2005 5:38:30 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (I helped a soldier today.)
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To: Cboldt; Diva Betsy Ross
The error is obvious to me, jumping to the conclusion that DBR's comment about being a Christian was the same as endorsing the tenets of Cristian Identity.
So, Diva Betsy Ross bears no responsibility for knowing what she's talking about?? That doesn't do much for the level of discourse, does it?
404 posted on 04/01/2005 5:38:31 PM PST by Clara Lou (I'm not pro-death, I'm anti-hysteria.)
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To: 506trooper

You know it's like a kid who cries every night after being put to bed. If you go pick them up every time for every whine, they'll never be quiet and go to sleep. Same thing goes for those that spout nonsense or can't stay relatively on topic. Pay too much attention to hysterical people and you give their spew too much credence.
Right now I've of the opinion that an opus for leaving because 'the fringe has taken over' or 'it just isn't like it used to be' is rather self-indulgent and counter-productive. And this is coming from someone who'e read Poohbah's and many other "old timer" posts and feel they are a vital part of FR.
And as for the TS stuff, it pained me a great deal to see many people behaving in a very unChristian manner.


405 posted on 04/01/2005 5:38:48 PM PST by visualops (Pray.)
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To: visualops
You know, there's been a heck of alot more on this site than the Terri threads. If that's all you folks saw then you're in a rut.

Not in the last two weeks. It's been at least 65% Schiavo tripe.

406 posted on 04/01/2005 5:39:10 PM PST by Fifth Business
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To: proud American in Canada
Actually, the plural of "opus" is an odd duck. It is "opera." No kidding.

Billybob
407 posted on 04/01/2005 5:39:22 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Proud to be a FORMER member of the Bar of the US Supreme Court since July, 2004.)
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To: M. Thatcher
Actually, this is the second time I've been here.

When I left the first time, that was not nearly as toxic and vicious as this time.

Frankly, saying it's always like this is not really a solution.

408 posted on 04/01/2005 5:39:24 PM PST by OldFriend ( SAW MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH ON CSPAN........AWESOME)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Click on your name under a post, then on the top section marked "In Forum." Your number is in the html link to the page. You are #1262 (though I had to translate it from Sanskrit *wink*).


409 posted on 04/01/2005 5:39:28 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Still teaching... or a reasonable facsimile thereof...)
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To: Catspaw
It's not 'hung.' It's 'hanged.'

Oh, dear God! [sniff] I cannot believe you just viciously, savagely attacked me!!!

What has happened to this place?!?! I remember back in '98 we never would have had this kind of personal language abuse!! [sob] JimRob and the mods are obviously aligning themselves with the grammar police. Goodbye, cruel forum!

410 posted on 04/01/2005 5:39:32 PM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: sinkspur

Well the silver lining is that I learned a lot from all of that internecine bashing. But then I had much to learn; I'm not Catholic.


411 posted on 04/01/2005 5:39:39 PM PST by Torie
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To: sinkspur
I figure it's because somebody's jealous that I don't have to lift my leg to pee.

What the hell does that mean? You're a cat?

412 posted on 04/01/2005 5:40:06 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Poohbah

Don't let the door...
413 posted on 04/01/2005 5:40:07 PM PST by G32
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To: Rca2000; Bald Eagle777

I stated quite clearly that I never saw the posts in question.


414 posted on 04/01/2005 5:40:32 PM PST by SaveTheChief (Oskee Wow Wow Illinois)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thanks, Billybob.

I've been working on another rant for you, but I've been too busy to finish it up. I did receive via email many kind messages while I was gone, and they helped a lot to improve my spirits.

As you can see, I still have my temper. I wish Pooh was still around to defend himself, but I respect his decision. Lets hope my temper does not get me banned upon my recent return?

415 posted on 04/01/2005 5:40:49 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Chad, you better not!


416 posted on 04/01/2005 5:40:51 PM PST by mabelkitty (Blackwell for Governor in 2006!!!)
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To: Bald Eagle777
I saw that quote "Terri died for our sins" and saw some fairly significant theological problems with this little winner.

That should have been your first clue that it wasn't written by anyone with even a passing knowledge of Christianity (or ANY religion). That is someone attempting to appear to be a member of the religious right by acting according to their own personal opinion of how a religious person acts.

417 posted on 04/01/2005 5:41:34 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Petronski

Funny!


418 posted on 04/01/2005 5:41:40 PM PST by Bald Eagle777 (OPSEC Saves Lives)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Therefore, I think I'll follow him out the door.

No way, jack. You are staying right here. We all need to decompress from the recent Schiavo mess. I stayed off those threads because that was a no-win situation, top to bottom.

I hope poohbah and hchutch are going to reconsider things as well.

419 posted on 04/01/2005 5:41:55 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Admittedly I am not up on the lingo.

Yet you didn't let that stop you from responding witlessly.

420 posted on 04/01/2005 5:41:58 PM PST by Fifth Business
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