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American Idol 2005--Live Thread
3-15-05

Posted on 03/15/2005 5:53:32 AM PST by silent_jonny

AMERICAN IDOL 2005
LIVE THREAD

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: americanidol; americanidolbo; babymamasfault; bo; carriewon; funpeoplethread; getseriesguys; idol; losethefatguy; texasflower; thedemiseoffr; weloveyoutammy
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To: freedumb2003
Your analysis is pretty good, but you missed the fact that Vonzelle was OFF KEY for all of both of her songs.

I didn't hear that. The first song certainly had its pitch problems, but I only noticed issues during transitions with the second song.

5,261 posted on 05/04/2005 4:36:44 AM PDT by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)
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To: kevkrom

Trust me, she was off (flat).

It seems a lot of people (read: Randy) can't hear when the singer is flat. He picks up on it when they go sharp, but not when the go flat.

Vonzelle tends to wander around the pitch rather than hit it. But that seems to be the tendancy for a lot of singers today. They tend to swoop up on the note because it is easier than hitting it.

I may despise her politics, but if you want to hear how to hit notes properly, listen closely to Babs.


5,262 posted on 05/04/2005 4:40:07 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (First you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women (HJ Simpson))
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To: upier
I still think that Bo and Carrie are clearly better than the rest. Having the two of them last really showed the difference. They are the pros.

Well, Bo is anyway. Bo Bice, 29, of Helena, Alabama, has opened for Warrant and Blackfoot and performed and recorded with Jonny Neal of the Allman Brothers.

Which is why I won't ever vote for him. This show is about taking amateurs off the street that might not otherwise get noticed.

5,263 posted on 05/04/2005 4:45:10 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: freedumb2003
Trust me, she was off (flat).

We'll have to respectfully disagree, because I can only go by what my ears hear (and Mrs. kevkrom is even more sensitive to things being in tune and she didn't think Vonzelle was flat either).

The same caveats do apply, of course, as have for the last month -- I'm not using the stereo system and I'm short on sleep (though the baby was quiet at least this time).

5,264 posted on 05/04/2005 4:48:26 AM PDT by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)
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To: kevkrom

I am glad the baby let you watch! Last week I had to attend a meeting and missed Paula's breakdown. I am still kicking myself for not having the wife TIVO it (I am on the road in a hotel).

:)

I have akready been wrong on a prediction, but I predict Bo and Carrie are the last 2 standing. This week: Bronze Diaper gets the boot.


5,265 posted on 05/04/2005 4:53:26 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (First you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women (HJ Simpson))
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To: freedumb2003
had to attend a meeting and missed Paula's breakdown

haha - thanks for reminding me!

That had to be one of the more amusing moments in American Idol history!

5,266 posted on 05/04/2005 4:56:34 AM PDT by SunnyUsa
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To: silent_jonny

Good morning...sorry I missed you all last night..life happens..but I'll watch the tape, and scan the thread, before the show tonite..FYI..there's a HUGE, full page article in today's NY Times BUSINESS section about AI, Paula, and the ABC expose tonite..the "BUDiNESS" sction, f'pete's sake..grab a link for the thread, if you have time..


5,267 posted on 05/04/2005 5:04:37 AM PDT by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: ken5050

Morning :) I found the NYTimes article but I have register to read it.


5,268 posted on 05/04/2005 5:22:00 AM PDT by silent_jonny
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To: silent_jonny

have TO register


5,269 posted on 05/04/2005 5:22:24 AM PDT by silent_jonny
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To: kevkrom
Great scorecard, as always :) I absolutely, positively agree with your #5. Fedorov will probably go home tonight.

But I disagree with your #1. Vonzelle was flat on the second song, if not both. And her diva-style vocals are really beginning to annoy me. Simon was right when he told her that she's very vulnerable this week. If Fedorov doesn't go, then it will be Vonzelle.

Bo has limited range, but to his credit, I think he knows this and chooses songs that fit that range. He killed with "Stand By Me".

Carrie was the best she's been in weeks--on both of her songs. Not only did she sound great, she looked great. She was finally enjoying herself.

Slingblade's time is short, he may not be bounced this week, but it will happen soon. I think the pity votes are helping him more than the "votefortheworst" crowd. Now if he could only learn to keep his smart-ass comments to himself ...

5,270 posted on 05/04/2005 5:38:45 AM PDT by silent_jonny
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To: freedumb2003
Her "Star Search" reach she puts in each song is holding her aloft, but sooner or later the audience has to realize she can't sing.

I wouldn't say Vonzelle can't sing, but she definitely needs to drop the "Star Search" schtick.

5,271 posted on 05/04/2005 5:43:14 AM PDT by silent_jonny
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To: Sybeck1

A Carrie gif!!! Right-clicking and saving :-D


5,272 posted on 05/04/2005 5:44:31 AM PDT by silent_jonny
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
Morning, Hetty. Great rundown :)

The bell tolls for Anthony tonight, I think.

5,273 posted on 05/04/2005 5:50:14 AM PDT by silent_jonny
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To: TheMom

Glad you enjoyed the ping :)


5,274 posted on 05/04/2005 5:52:12 AM PDT by silent_jonny
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To: upier

After rewatching the show, you may be right about Anthony leaving the show tonight.


5,275 posted on 05/04/2005 5:58:19 AM PDT by TheMom (Govern yourself accordingly.)
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To: silent_jonny

As always, I put together my card before reading anyone's comments, so it pretty much sums up my first impressions -- I really didn't hear "flat" in Vonzelle's second number, though it appears that several people did. I still beleive she's the only one up there who really fits the bill of being a pop star, though.


5,276 posted on 05/04/2005 6:07:49 AM PDT by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)
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To: cajungirl

I noticed that too, Carrie's always using her hands to get her hair off her face. And in a very casual way, like she's talking to you instead of singing to you.

Instead, she should throw her head around like Bo does.


5,277 posted on 05/04/2005 6:58:03 AM PDT by Collier
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To: tiredoflaundry

Carrie
Bo
Scott
Anthony
Vonzelle


5,278 posted on 05/04/2005 7:18:47 AM PDT by Collier
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To: TonyWpi

Hi Tony,

I'm a NYer too.........born in the Bronx, moved to Long Island in my late 20's


5,279 posted on 05/04/2005 7:34:53 AM PDT by Collier
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To: silent_jonny
Good day, jonny. Here's my take on last night's performances, worst to best.

Vonzell: D and D. She simply did not get either of the two songs she sang, and I agree with Simon. She was all over the place trying to "make the songs her own." Her worst night of the competition in my opinion.

Anthony: C and C. At 19, he is the youngest and most inexperienced contestant, and it shows. He has no idea what his own musical style is, yet. But he gives it his all every week, and he does have natural talent. He just doesn't know how to take it from high school level to professional level.

Scott: A and D. His first song was wonderful. It's a classic and he knew just how to make it work for his style. Unfortunately, for his second song, he reverted to trying to sing too high for his natural register. Awful. He also may have run his mouth off once too often, because there are plenty of Constantine fans out there who have been building a backlash against Scott all week. Last night was NOT the time for Scott to get mouthy with Simon.

Carrie: A and C. She did a fabulous job on her first song. That's what I've been waiting to see from her all season long. A true star performance. Unfortunately, her 2nd song, "God Bless the Broken Road," is a monster country hit, and I love it. Carrie way, way over-sang it. Turned it into a power ballad when it's actually a much more tender and soulful song. Simon was also right in that she reverted to her robotic ways again in her 2nd performance.

Bo: A and A. His experience and knowledge of what works for him are starting to turn him into a bona fide star. He was much the best last night.

We should be heading for a Bo - Carrie final. If not, then I will finally begin to believe all those "vote for the worst" websites are having more of an influence that I presently suspect.

5,280 posted on 05/04/2005 10:21:56 AM PDT by Wolfstar
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