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Medieval Norwegian church found in deepest Poland
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Posted on 03/14/2005 1:54:29 AM PST by franksolich
While waiting for the morning edition of that excellent newspaper in Oslo, the Aftenposten, to pop up on the computer screen, I checked out a "lead" given me by twinself of the Eastern European ping list.
There is apparently an ancient Norwegian, a Viking, church right smack in the middle of the Carpathian Mountains of Poland.
I have been all over the place, and so am used to finding unusual things in unusual places, but this one seems a gem, a jewel.
This church was originally built around 1180, on the shores of Lake Vang in southern Norway (Vangsmjosi), near Mount Grindafjellet.
It was apparently one of only 30 "stave churches" (I have no idea what a "stave church" is), out of thousands, to survive into the modern era. It was made using no nails, only wooden bolts and dovetails, and of Norwegian pine, which apparently has longevity in it.
In the early 1800s, because it was too small for the region, and because it was deteriorating, it was sold to the Emperor of Prussia, for the Berlin Museum.
However, once the church arrived in Stettin, the emperor lost all interest in it, and so it was taken far to the south, to the mountains of Carpathia, and by 1842 had been set up there, and fully engaged in the purposes for which it had been built nearly 700 years before in faraway Norway.
The web-site (the link in red above) is well worth clicking on; the web-design is excellent (almost as if it had been done by the guys on the Eastern European ping list), and it has many aesthetic photographs, and more history. Just click on the British flag on the first page, and take a look; this is remarkable.
Thank you, twinself, an authentic Pole a member of Free Republic, currently actually in Poland.
TOPICS: Arts/Photography; History; Religion; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: archaeology; bison; church; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; lutheran; norway; poland; polish
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Well, one finds the most unusual things in the most unusual places.
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"Light news" ping for the Norway ping list, as I apparently got up before the staff at the Aftenposten awoke this morning, to illuminate us with "hard news" from Norway.
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posted on
03/14/2005 2:01:01 AM PST
by
franksolich
(look for the "knitted in Norway" label on the sweater)
To: franksolich
There's a Stavkirke in Rapid City. They are tremendously cool.
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posted on
03/14/2005 2:07:26 AM PST
by
SoDak
(hoist that rag!)
To: franksolich
Somewhere in between "photobucket" and Microsoft Word and this reply-page on Free Republic, this photograph evaporated. This is the original location, Vangsmjosi, of that Norwegian church now in Poland.
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posted on
03/14/2005 2:08:53 AM PST
by
franksolich
(look for the "knitted in Norway" label on the sweater)
To: franksolich
"Medieval Norwegian church found in deepest Poland"
I wasn't aware that Poland had submerged.
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posted on
03/14/2005 2:11:09 AM PST
by
shibumi
(You'd rather cry, I'd rather fly.)
To: SoDak
I am curious as to what a "stave church" is; the only definition of "stave" that I know, are those lathes of wood used in making barrels.
"Architecture" is not one of my strong suits; people are much more fascinating than buildings anyway.
I have heralded far and wide the architectural perfection of York Minster in England, promoting it as the best possible church in the world, and have gotten hollered down by barbarians, philistines, who insist I know nothing about architecture, and would not know "aesthetics" even if it slammed me in the face.
Bah humbug.
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posted on
03/14/2005 2:43:35 AM PST
by
franksolich
(look for the "knitted in Norway" label on the sweater)
To: shibumi
Well, for some of us, "north" is "up" and "south" is "down," and this church is located far in the southeastern portion of Poland, which seems pretty deep to me.
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posted on
03/14/2005 2:44:40 AM PST
by
franksolich
(look for the "knitted in Norway" label on the sweater)
To: franksolich
They are built using staves as supports much like longships.
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posted on
03/14/2005 2:50:05 AM PST
by
SoDak
(hoist that rag!)
To: franksolich
"I have no idea what a "stave church" "
This church was built without nails, maybe this is something about it.
To: franksolich
However, once the church arrived in Stettin Sttetin = Szczecin that is Grzegorzs home, interesting.
I have seen this church live few years ago but unfortunately only outside cause church was closed then for some reasons. Very beautiful countryside but I see that original Norwegian location is also very attractive. Hard to believe that this is Norwegian architecture looks so Chinese.
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posted on
03/14/2005 7:25:45 AM PST
by
Lukasz
(Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
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posted on
03/14/2005 7:31:56 AM PST
by
lizol
To: Lukasz
What I find intriguing are the dragons, or monsters, sticking out from the eaves and rafters; I wonder if this was a characteristic of medieval Norwegian architecture (besides on the Viking boats).
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posted on
03/14/2005 7:39:16 AM PST
by
franksolich
(look for the "brewed in Norway" label on the bottle of beer)
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posted on
03/14/2005 11:00:43 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, March 13, 2005.)
To: A. Pole
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posted on
03/14/2005 11:43:20 AM PST
by
Hegemony Cricket
(You are witnessing History in the making! (We are having to rewrite prehistory))
To: franksolich
When I first saw the lead, I thought I'd be saying, "Yummpin Yimminey! I bane be Svew Kowalski"
To: franksolich
Cool site. I've been in the Stavkjirke at the Volksmuseet in Bigdoy (Oslo) and seen a couple of the others from the outside. Truly amazing churches!
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posted on
03/14/2005 1:08:46 PM PST
by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
To: franksolich; Lukasz; lizol; Grzegorz 246; Askel5; texasflower
If you liked Wang church sculptures I recommend checking out sites dedicated to the greatest Polish visual artists of XXth century, Stanislav Szukalski. His art was inspired by the art of ancient cultures of Greeks, Romans, Vikings, Slavs, Celts but even also Aztecs.
Stanislav Szukalski was born in Warta, Poland on December 13, 1893. When he was only six years old, a teacher sent him to the headmaster's office for whittling a pencil. The headmaster examined the pencil more closely and discovered that young Stanislav had carved a tiny, near-perfect figure. Instead of punishing him, he called the local newspaper which did a feature on the art prodigy...
For more information on this Polish genius go to:
www.szukalski.com
www.szukalski.pl (site in Polish)
www.rogate-serce.prv.pl (site in Polish)
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posted on
03/14/2005 2:02:31 PM PST
by
twinself
To: twinself
Fascinating artwork. Thanks for the link.
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posted on
03/14/2005 5:14:42 PM PST
by
texasflower
("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
To: franksolich
Stave churchs:
Here's one ralatively near my house in on Wahington Island, Door County, Wisconsin...
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posted on
03/15/2005 12:11:20 AM PST
by
gnarledmaw
(I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
To: gnarledmaw
Well, I am still confused--although I never claimed to be among the brightest bulbs in the room.
Does the word "stave" in Norwegian mean something other than the word "stave" as we use it?
As we use the word "stave," it usually, generally, most of the time, means that narrow strip of wood used in making wooden barrels or tubs; or lesser, means the rung of a ladder or a chair; or lesser than that, a club or cudgel.
These "stave churches," obviously are made of wood, and perhaps wood slats, but it does not quite seem to fit--and so I am left wondering if there is a fourth definition of "stave," or if "stave" as used in "stave churches" means something wholly different in Norwegian.
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posted on
03/15/2005 12:23:10 AM PST
by
franksolich
(look for the "brewed in Norway" label on the bottle of beer)
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