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Is anyone watching Battlestar Galactica? (Hinting of 9-11??)Mega Vanity -sorry
Today | RandallFlagg

Posted on 12/08/2003 7:13:14 PM PST by RandallFlagg

The first 2 segments are just SCREAMING at hints towards 911. I highly suggest folks watch it.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: battlestar; battlestargalactica; galactica
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To: JustAnAmerican
If you enjoyed the show, then more power to you, but a lot of us refuse to follow the "PC is good" road.

...and a lot of us refuse to reflexively presume that anything with women in it is due to "PC".

To me it looked like the real motivation for the changes was to add more "eye-candy" to the primary cast, and to enhance the possibilities for sexual activity/tensions in the plot (as opposed to just "what shall we shoot today"). That's not only *not* PC, it borders on the polar opposite (sexism).

Besides, as someone else pointed out, the original (Dirk Benedict) Starbuck was practically a woman anyway. :-)

Another hint that the changes weren't due to a "PC" motive is the fact that there are no significant black roles in the new BG, despite the fact that there were at least three in the old one. That's not something that "PC" writers would do.

281 posted on 12/09/2003 11:53:58 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: JustAnAmerican
You still are not getting the point. And to be honest maybe I am not clarifying it. The point is that the lead characters were replaced because the producers/writers/financiers wanted to be PC.

Wow, where can I buy a mind-reading crystal ball like yours?

282 posted on 12/09/2003 11:55:56 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
That's a good scenario. Your enemy secretly helps you build your defences and builds himself a back door to shut everything down just when it's needed!
283 posted on 12/09/2003 11:57:28 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps (WHO DEY! WHO DEY! WHO DEY THINK GONNA BEAT DEM BENGALS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: BenLurkin
No,it was unnecssary and prurient IMO (as were all of the sex scenes).

I thought all of those scenes are necessary. The sex scenes set up the treachery of the Cylon's yet #6 seems to be enjoying it. Did #6 kill the baby on purpose or curious about the strength of its neck? Why did #6 let the scientest go? Lots of questions about this new breed of Cylons. Anyone notice that the photo of the XO's wife looked a lot like #6. Didn't #6 say there were 12 models like her. Good looking models at that.

284 posted on 12/09/2003 11:57:44 AM PST by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: BenLurkin
No,it was unnecssary and prurient IMO (as were all of the sex scenes).

I thought all of those scenes are necessary. The sex scenes set up the treachery of the Cylon's yet #6 seems to be enjoying it. Did #6 kill the baby on purpose or curious about the strength of its neck? Why did #6 let the scientest go? Lots of questions about this new breed of Cylons. Anyone notice that the photo of the XO's wife looked a lot like #6. Didn't #6 say there were 12 models like her. Good looking models at that.

285 posted on 12/09/2003 11:57:48 AM PST by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: Woahhs
Am I the only one that was disturbed by the scene where robo-chick kills the baby in the stroller?

Oh, you bet yer sweet arse! That scene made me grab my 7-month-old and give him a few dozen extra kissus!

Another view is that if you look at it and what Number 6 said to the baby, ("You won't have to cry for very much longer") she was actually doing it a favor in a twisted way: Better to die quickly than to suffer through nuclear holocaust -The Cylons nuked that whole city. --PS: Please don't flame me. I felt really bad at that scene.

286 posted on 12/09/2003 12:00:41 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: Charles Martel
Cylons use nuclear weapons. If "nukes" exist in this universe, then so must the Electo-Magnetic Pulse (EMP) that accompanies the blast. EMP can stop machines dead in their tracks. Why isn't it used against the Cylons here? It is not –– here, with no explanation given.

...because anyone with a basic high-school physics education knows that it's not complicated to "shield" electronics from EMP if you want to, and the Cylons would certainly have done so. For them it would be as much of a "no-brainer" as it is for humans to shield their ships from radiation, cosmic rays, and the vacuum of space.

287 posted on 12/09/2003 12:01:36 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: GreenLanternCorps
. Your enemy secretly helps you build your defences and builds himself a back door to shut everything down just when it's needed!

Yeah, but don't for a second believe that China is sending us H1-Bs for anything like that.

288 posted on 12/09/2003 12:02:54 PM PST by Jim Cane
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To: Jim Cane
Oh what the heck, ruinista! In the future, the heroes that save the day are all wearing stretchy polyester uniforms and funny hats. Why do you think the deep space communications between the battlestar and the rest of the fleet sounds just like a drive up window?

Don't know what you are trying to comunicate but it sounds intresting.

289 posted on 12/09/2003 12:05:35 PM PST by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: RandallFlagg
IIRC, the original begins at a time when the Cylons and humans have been actively at war. The "peace faction" in the ruling Council are convinced that recent Cylon peace overtures are legitimate and stand down the entire fleet in anticipation of a joyous peace ceremony.

Problem is, one of the twelve council members is a traitor who has used the 'peace process' as a ruse to render the colonies helpless. (Who might that be in today's U.S. Senate?)

The other problem (for the bad guys) is that Adama smelled a rat and did not stand down. That is why he and his crew and a rag tag bunch of fleeing humans survived to eventually make it to the lost 13th colony (Earth).

Which would be good except the that the Cylons can't be very far behind -8^).

290 posted on 12/09/2003 12:08:21 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Liberal Classic
It's as if the cylon war was many years ago, much more than just 40. There would still be almost half the population who could remember that the cylons infiltrated computers during the attack.

The Vietnam was was "only" 30 years ago. But to most people it feels like ancient history (and in a sense it is). How many people today still take to heart the lessons of the Vietnam war?

291 posted on 12/09/2003 12:08:32 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: RandallFlagg
The girl playing boomer is a bit to small for the call sign of "boomer".

The girl playing Starbuck nailed a few very Starbuckish ways, until she struck a superior. Starbuck would disobey an order, but he drew the line at assult.

The uniforms are the pits.

The ship models suck.

292 posted on 12/09/2003 12:08:51 PM PST by Jack of Diamonds
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To: Jim Cane
[ refuse to watch it because of this.]

It's not a crime to look at women. Really, it's okay.

ROFL!

I swear, some of these posts sound like, "dagnabit, why are they letting those women out of the kitchen?"

293 posted on 12/09/2003 12:11:03 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Jack of Diamonds
The girl playing boomer is a bit to small for the call sign of "boomer".

I presume it has to do with her blowing stuff up. :-)

The girl playing Starbuck nailed a few very Starbuckish ways, until she struck a superior. Starbuck would disobey an order, but he drew the line at assult.

When the XO flipped over the table, it looked to me as if he was about to come after Starbuck in a rage, so she clocked him first in "pre-emptive self defense".

294 posted on 12/09/2003 12:15:43 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Jack of Diamonds
The uniforms are the pits.

Sci Fi uniforms have seen better days. The chicks in UFO for instance. 7of9's jump[me] suit comes to mind, too. T'pol's special "decontamination room" uniform...

295 posted on 12/09/2003 12:17:31 PM PST by Jim Cane
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To: Lee'sGhost
Oh for Pete's sake, don't blow off a halfway decent Sci show because of that. You know, in its own way, such an attitude is its own political correctness.

Uh, you may want to recheck your definition of political correctness. I suffered through enough Star Trek Voyager episodes to know when someone is using a so called entertainment show to preach political correctness at me. It ruins the show for me and I'm sick of it. I'll watch Babylon 5 or Stargate SG1 on dvd.

By the way, you did know the same guy who worked on Voyager (which was the absolute worst star trek series ever made) made the changes to StarBuck? His name escapes me but the minute I learned he was involved with the show, I made my decision to skip it.

296 posted on 12/09/2003 12:41:46 PM PST by ProudGOP
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To: Ichneumon
Did you bother to actually read my post or did you just stop at the mention of PC and Woman? Just in case you were in a hurry, or just decided you wanted to be the devils advocate without brushing up on facts, here is the passage in post 219 you conveniently missed.

It was not about who was best for the job it was all about PC. There are no "What If's" here, the point is they used females in the spots that males were originally used because of PC. No more no less. All one has to do is search the Internet to find this out."

Where in that passage did you see anything about "My guess is?", Facts is the buzzword here. If watching the new BSG floats yer boat then by all means watch it, but please don't insist the show wasn't trying to be PC, there are too many facts that say otherwise including "Interviews" of the Producer about the show.

297 posted on 12/09/2003 12:46:58 PM PST by JustAnAmerican
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To: ProudGOP
Well, I'll say this, I holding out hope that it's just change for change's sake and that the thing won't turn out to be a PC hack job. (No, I did not know about the STV connection.)

I do understand your distaste if it's true. Much the same way I felt about Kevin Cosner's Robin Hood. Bwaaaaaccccccchhhh.
298 posted on 12/09/2003 12:47:47 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Jim Cane
"Why do you think the deep space communications between the battlestar and the rest of the fleet sounds just like a drive up window? "

LOL!


"CCCccchhhhhhiiikkkkk. . . May day, may day! We are under attack by a Cylon squadron. Hold the pickles, please! CCCccchhhhhiiikkkkkkk. . ."


299 posted on 12/09/2003 12:53:00 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Xenalyte
As someone whom I know enjoys these kinds of things I wanted to make sure you got an invitation. Please weigh in.
300 posted on 12/09/2003 12:54:53 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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