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To: Ichneumon
Did you bother to actually read my post or did you just stop at the mention of PC and Woman? Just in case you were in a hurry, or just decided you wanted to be the devils advocate without brushing up on facts, here is the passage in post 219 you conveniently missed.

It was not about who was best for the job it was all about PC. There are no "What If's" here, the point is they used females in the spots that males were originally used because of PC. No more no less. All one has to do is search the Internet to find this out."

Where in that passage did you see anything about "My guess is?", Facts is the buzzword here. If watching the new BSG floats yer boat then by all means watch it, but please don't insist the show wasn't trying to be PC, there are too many facts that say otherwise including "Interviews" of the Producer about the show.

297 posted on 12/09/2003 12:46:58 PM PST by JustAnAmerican
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To: JustAnAmerican
Did you bother to actually read my post or did you just stop at the mention of PC and Woman?

I read the whole post, and noticed that you didn't actually support your claims.

Just in case you were in a hurry, or just decided you wanted to be the devils advocate without brushing up on facts, here is the passage in post 219 you conveniently missed.

It was not about who was best for the job it was all about PC. There are no "What If's" here, the point is they used females in the spots that males were originally used because of PC. No more no less. All one has to do is search the Internet to find this out."
I didn't miss that at all. In fact, I did a few "searches of the internet" and didn't find anything at all like what you describe.

So perhaps now would be a fine time for you to present something you allegedly found in your "searches of the internet" which would support your assertion, instead of making readers of your post go on a scavenger hunt for it.

Where in that passage did you see anything about "My guess is?",

Nowhere, which was exactly my point. If you wanted to present your "it was all about PC" view as your own opinion, so be it, but when you present it as undeniable fact, *then* it behooves you to support such an absolute claim.

Facts is the buzzword here. If watching the new BSG floats yer boat then by all means watch it, but please don't insist the show wasn't trying to be PC, there are too many facts that say otherwise including "Interviews" of the Producer about the show.

Then it shouldn't be hard for you to quote some, would it? Although I really doubt you can find a passage that actually flatly says, "yeah, we were working at being politically correct", even if they were. Instead, it's more likely that whether their comments indicate "PC-ness" or not is going to be a matter of interpretation by the reader, which removes the matter from the realm of unarguable "facts" and becomes a personal judgment call.

Indeed, when *I* do a web search on this, I find:

"I felt that making Starbuck a woman would provide greater creative opportunities in the show and was a way of avoiding what I felt would be cliches in the 'rogue pilot with a heart of gold' once Dirk Benedict (whose personal charm was such that he made the cliches go down a little easier) was removed from the equation. Boomer was a similar process, but given the deeper truth about Boomer in the mini, turning the character into a woman provided other opportunities down the road."
-- Battlestar Galactica writer Ronald D. Moore, May 2003 Cylon Alliance chat
Oh looky, that sounds an awful lot like my own impression which I posted earlier (which I posted *before* I found the preceding writer's quote):
"To me it looked like the real motivation for the changes was to add more "eye-candy" to the primary cast, and to enhance the possibilities for sexual activity/tensions in the plot (as opposed to just "what shall we shoot today")."
In short, it adds more story possibilities.
304 posted on 12/09/2003 1:08:31 PM PST by Ichneumon
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