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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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LINKS OF INTEREST
http://www.truthusa.com/LinksOfInterest.html

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001: ATTACK ON AMERICA
http://www.truthusa.com/911.html
9,201 posted on 01/11/2004 1:04:23 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Hegemony Cricket
Bagpipes! Ha, now there is truly an instrument designed to elicit extreme agitation and torture (running, laughing, ducking...).

HC, better not let my Dad hear you saying that! Any occasion is the perfect occasion to bring out the bagpipe CD's...8^)

P.S. He doesn't hear very well at all, so the neighbors get to enjoy the bagpipe merriment as well! I am sure they are overjoyed...
9,202 posted on 01/11/2004 1:09:23 AM PST by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: tubavil; Sean Osborne Lomax; StillProud2BeFree; JustPiper; FairOpinion; bonesmccoy; liz44040; ...
Latest post to the CALL19 Yahoo group. Below is a translation via Tarjim.

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Subject:

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9,203 posted on 01/11/2004 3:02:25 AM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
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To: ZOTnot
I live in West Virginia, about two hours' time from that interchange named after Byrd.

What part of WV? I've only been to the tips of the panhandles.

foreverfree

9,205 posted on 01/11/2004 3:57:34 AM PST by foreverfree
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To: Revel
Shows you've been paying attention.
9,206 posted on 01/11/2004 4:57:19 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The only thing standing between the rule of law and anarchy is that conservatives are good losers!)
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To: hummingbird
My great uncle was in the Black Watch.
He played the pipes til the end. He'd go off across the lake and pace back and forth along the dam.

Beautiful, but eery and haunting.

Unless he was drinking, then he'd play martial music and we kids would put kettles on our heads and shoulder our toy guns and march around banging on pots and pans.
9,207 posted on 01/11/2004 5:02:48 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The only thing standing between the rule of law and anarchy is that conservatives are good losers!)
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To: LayoutGuru2; Sean Osborne Lomax; JustPiper; freeperfromnj; flutters; Dog; Sabertooth; Cindy; ...
Does anyone know, or can anyone ping someone that does know....What are the Clinton's calendars? Is there anywhere we can look that info up?
9,208 posted on 01/11/2004 5:36:31 AM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia; freeperfromnj
Millstone Nuke Plant is in CT, not on Long Island, and the Shoreham facility never went on line and has now been decommissioned. The only Nuclear facility is the Brookhaven National Labratory near the eastern end of Long Island in Suffolk County.
9,209 posted on 01/11/2004 6:04:50 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Revel
You have mail.
9,210 posted on 01/11/2004 7:08:11 AM PST by crabbie
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To: tapatio
Speak of (c)rap groups, let's not forget The Coup

http://www.hiphop-elements.com/article/read/4/5456/1/
9,211 posted on 01/11/2004 7:13:45 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: freeperfromnj
Why parents allow their children to buy and listen to this rap and hip-hop trash is beyond me.

Every time our children spend money that benefits the Enemy Within, I blame the parents for it. The first step is in recognizing the Enemy Within...the rest will follow.
9,212 posted on 01/11/2004 7:26:15 AM PST by TomInNJ ("Demographics is Destiny" - FReeper Riverman94610)
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To: Labyrinthos; oceanview; freeperfromnj
Where is Hicksville? and is Sylvania nuclear fuel plant different from a power plant?

http://www.newsday.com/business/printedition/ny-bzhick0509,0,1033837.story

Key Evidence in Nuclear Plant Case Missing

By Mark Harrington
Staff Writer

May 9, 2003

Lawyers for Verizon Communications Inc. told a judge they can’t find about 200,000 pages of documents that Hicksville residents say are crucial evidence in lawsuits that claim a former Sylvania nuclear fuel plant in their neighborhood operated secretly and unsafely and caused chronic illnesses.

In a May 7 letter to U.S. Magistrate Judge Arlene Lindsay in Central Islip, Verizon and its predecessor companies acknowledged they couldn’t find the records even though the 97 boxes were methodically cataloged in 1992, and had been stored for 30 years.

Lawyers for 200 former and current residents asserted many of the documents were labeled "permanent," meaning that they should never have been destroyed or required approvals in triplicate to do so. They called for a delay of the trial and an investigation.

Verizon is footing the unspecified bill for a cleanup that began in earnest this month at the site next to Cantiague State Park. Sylvania and its successor, GTE, which merged with Bell Atlantic to form Verizon in 2000, acknowledge the plant produced nuclear fuel rods in the 1950s and 1960s, but they say there are no current health risks. Residents filed suit in 2002 after the Department of Energy released studies outlining the extent of the nuclear fuel work, including that in Hicksville. Hundreds of homes are near the site in surrounding residential neighborhoods.

William Pratt, a lawyer at Kirkland & Ellis in Manhattan who represents Verizon and other Sylvania-successor companies, including GTE, called the request to delay the trial to investigate the loss a "meritless diversion." He noted the company had already provided 200,000 pages of documents to the residents’ lawyers, and he rebuffed their suggestions that the documents disappeared as state and federal authorities were preparing to investigate the site in the mid 1990s.

Pratt wrote "... As time passes and circumstances change, the likelihood increases of old documents being misplaced."

Lawyers for residents pointed out that the documents were known to exist in 1992 but disappeared sometime before investigators began asking for them in 1996. Pratt confirmed that the New York Department of Environmental Conservation during a 1996 probe of the facility requested documents related to Sylvania from GTE Corp. . The agency was told "that GTE either had not been able to locate documents or did not find the requested information in the documents available at that time."

Sylvania, which was acquired by General Telephone to become GTE in 1959, operated the plant from 1952 to 1966.

James Bogard, the nuclear material specialist at Oak Ridge National Lab who conducted a federal review of the site in 1994 to clear it for occupancy, said radiation levels were high but posed little risk, except if particles were breathed. Sylvania routinely incinerated uranium shavings in the open air behind the plant, according to a Stuart Opdahl, a former worker who testified in the case.

Matt Burns, a spokesman for the DEC, said Wednesday that the department was "not aware of any evidence to support the claim of any missing documents" during the DEC’s probe. He didn’t return calls yesterday.

NRC spokesman Dave McIntyre said that agency’s probe was done using files the NRC had in its own records and "would not have involved documents from the company."

Verizon and the DEC said there are no current health risks at the site, and that the residents’ lawsuits seeking $1.5 billion in damages are without merit. "We have found nothing to support the allegations in the lawsuits," said Sharon Hagar-Cohen, Verizon’s spokeswoman.

According to the DEC, around 90 cubic yards of contaminated soil were removed from the site in 1986. It’s unknown whether the DEC required that the previous excavation underwent the same procedures surrounding the current soil removal, which is being done inside large plastic tents with soil transferred to Utah by train in special sealed cars.
9,213 posted on 01/11/2004 7:31:09 AM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
You said it was a Newsday article in the Afghan caves? They did follow the story on Sylvania nuclear fuel plant. See my post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1013726/posts?page=9213#9213

And this one:

http://www.newsday.com/business/printedition/ny-bzbnl0509,0,506302,print.story

Memos Show Plant Shipped Tainted Goods

By Mark Harrington
Staff Writer

May 9, 2003

In October 1965 Brookhaven Lab staffers were kicking the tires on used equipment at the former Sylvania Electric nuclear fuel production facility in Hicksville when the first red flags were raised.

They discovered that a forklift, truck, a large boiler and even cafeteria tables -- items they were planning to ship back to Brookhaven -- all exhibited elevated levels of uranium contamination, according to BNL memos obtained by Newsday.

"Cafeteria equipment was stored adjacent to grossly contaminated equipment," wrote a BNL staffer. Worse, some items BNL did not test already had been sent to other companies and the Hicksville School District, which received lockers, floor waxers, ladders and fire equipment. It's unclear which schools took the items, or if it contained similar levels of uranium contamination, which BNL officials stress is low-risk. A Hicksville school district spokeswoman didn't return a call seeking comment. Former superintendent Edward Finn referred questions back to the district.

Verizon, which now owns the facility and has begun overseeing its cleanup, said there's nothing to indicate children were at risk.

"The suggestion that Sylvania sent materials to a school that were hazardous to the health of schoolchildren is without any support," said Verizon spokeswoman Sharon Cohen-Hagar, pointing to one Brookhaven memo referring to tools it received as being "in no way a health hazard."

Today, government and health officials say the Sylvania site, adjacent to Cantiague Park, poses no safety hazards to residents.

In lawsuits, residents have claimed the Hicksville plant caused hundreds of them to become ill and, in some cases, die. Cohen-Hagar said, "We have found nothing to support the allegations in the lawsuits," and she asserted that the current levels of contaminants at the site "pose no current health risk."

Charles Schaefer, radiation protection specialist at Brookhaven, said the lab considers so-called disintegration-per-minute levels of 1,000 to be safe. One area of the Sylvania facility BNL experts tested in 1965 showed dpm levels of 40,000, according to the memo. With readings at that level, the only concern would be if the material was breathed or ingested, though he still downplayed the risks. Even at the higher level "they are not very big numbers," Schaefer said.

Mary Olsen, a director and nuclear waste specialist at the Nuclear Information and Resource Service in Washington, an environmental watchdog group, said it's "perfectly possible" the items donated to the schools bore the same levels of contamination, and she noted that acceptable standards for exposure to radiation are based on adult men, not children. For its own part, Brookhaven Lab, which took shipment of thousands of pieces of equipment, would become inundated with uranium contamination, according to the memos.

The introduction of the equipment from Sylvania set off a stir when it was fully realized inside Brookhaven Labs in 1966. In a Jan. 3, 1996 memo, an official described the facility as "engulfed" in radiation contamination from the items. Stressing at the time that the discovery was not a health hazard, Brookhaven nevertheless decided to "quarantine" two buildings to begin an intensive cleanup of the thousands of tools it had acquired.

While acknowledging terms in the memos might have sounded drastic, Mona Rowe, a BNL spokeswoman, downplayed their significance. The quarantine, she said, prevented contaminated items from mixing with cleaned ones. Much of the cleanup work was done with soap and water, Shaefer said, adding he wasn't sure if the clean-up workers wore respirators. Still, officials at the time indicate it was a massive undertaking.

"It was the largest decontamination effort that the Laboratory has yet undertaken," a BNL official wrote. " ... We must all work at the job of preventing such a colossal mess from happening again."
9,214 posted on 01/11/2004 7:46:51 AM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
My great uncle was in the Black Watch. He played the pipes til the end. He'd go off across the lake and pace back and forth along the dam.

Beautiful, but eery and haunting.

Unless he was drinking, then he'd play martial music and we kids would put kettles on our heads and shoulder our toy guns and march around banging on pots and pans.

When we bought my Dad a CD player, the first CD we played for him was bagpipes. As he came in through the front door, he couldn't understand why we all standing there snickering as the bagpipes grew louder & louder. We also have a piper a Church who plays there sometimes and belongs to one of the piper groups in town. One of the most poignant moments I have of bagpipes was hearing a band of 6 pipers slowly playing "Amazing Grace" at a Renaissance Festival. The wind carried the sound and it was so beautiful and left not a dry eye in the crowd. And, on St. Patrick's Day, my favorite memory is the pipers at a gathering playing college fight songs...a very rousing event! Black Watch rules! What great memories you must have with your pots & pans & Great Uncle! Pipers have a great military history, too!
9,215 posted on 01/11/2004 8:11:48 AM PST by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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could someone maybe freepmail me an update, I've not been able to keep up the last few days?

puhleeze

9,216 posted on 01/11/2004 8:55:40 AM PST by knak (wasknaknowknid)
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NY Times



Visitors See North Korea Nuclear Capacity
By DAVID E. SANGER
The members of the delegation, speaking in Beijing, declined to give a description of the facilities they inspected until they had a chance to brief the Bush administration.

Another Test for Qaddafi: Who Infected the Children?
By PATRICK E. TYLER
Assigning blame for an epidemic that spread H.I.V. to more than 400 children in Libya is one of the most difficult political problems facing Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi.
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CNN



Terrorism, migration may get center stage at summit
01/10/04
Leaders from throughout the Americas will try to map out a common vision this week on how to make the region safer, balancing concerns about security in the hemisphere with alarm over an increasingly aggressive U.S. response to terror threats.


U.S.: Saddam's POW status won't bar Iraqis from trying him
01/10/04
Saddam Hussein's prisoner of war status under the Geneva Conventions would not keep Iraqis from taking part in a Saddam war crimes trial, a coalition official said Saturday.


9,217 posted on 01/11/2004 9:10:39 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Alamo-Girl; All
NewsMax

2003: China Almost Went to War Over Taiwan

When Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao visited the White House last month, President Bush issued a stinging rebuke to Taiwan.

"We oppose any unilateral decision by either China or Taiwan to change the status quo," President Bush said.

"And the comments and actions made by the leader of Taiwan indicate that he may be willing to make decisions unilaterally to change the status quo, which we oppose."

Until that public comment by the president, the administration had been hawkishly pro-Taiwan.

What happened?

NewsMax has learned that earlier in 2003, Chinese officials at the highest levels were telling current and former U.S. diplomats that a war over Taiwan was likely in just a matter of months.

Chinese officials were apparently furious with Donald Rumsfeld and the Pentagon. The Chinese believe that Rumsfeld and the Pentagon have been telling the Taiwanese and their president, Chen Shui-bian, to make no deal with China, prepare for the worst, and move toward independence -- with the full backing of the U.S.

Chinese officials said that under such circumstances they would have no alternative but to take military action against Taiwan.

The White House moved to rein in the Pentagon. Since then, China has moved closer to the U.S. and has helped the U.S. by intervening in the North Korea crisis.

Also, the Chinese Central Bank has been bailing out the U.S. dollar, buying up U.S. securities at low rates of return that the Europeans long ago deserted.


9,218 posted on 01/11/2004 9:13:15 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Calpernia
Hicksville is in central Nassau County.

Long Island developed a very large military industrial complex after/during WWII, and alot of these industrial companies were out here, and put alot of stuff in place before environmental standards were common. Today, Long Island has a very high breast cancer rate, and many believe that all of these facilities (now closed) linked to the military/industrial complex are contaminated.
9,219 posted on 01/11/2004 9:13:20 AM PST by oceanview
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1055816/posts?page=1

The theft of 7,300 gallons of gasoline was reported Saturday by the owner of a Shell station in the 5800 block of North 27th Avenue. PHOENIX, AZ

9,220 posted on 01/11/2004 9:15:14 AM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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