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Biden Confirms He’s Considering Preemptive Pardons
The Epoch Times ^ | January 08, 2025 | Zachary Stieber

Posted on 01/08/2025 9:48:33 AM PST by Red Badger

The president had been reported to be considering issuing pardons to people who have not been charged with a crime.

President Joe Biden in a Jan. 5 interview confirmed that he is considering whether to issue preemptive pardons.

White House officials have said that Biden plans to issue additional pardons and commutations before his term ends.

Preemptive pardons would differ from those Biden has already issued and those issued by other presidents in their final days in office. They would protect people from prosecution for charges that have not yet been brought.

“Some of your supporters have encouraged you to issue preemptive pardons to people like Liz Cheney and Anthony Fauci ... will you do that?” USA TODAY’s Susan Page asked Biden during the interview.

The individuals suggested have drawn criticism from President-elect Donald Trump, who is set to take office again on Jan. 20.

Biden referenced a meeting with Trump at the White House in November 2024.

“I tried to make it clear that there was no need, and it was counterintuitive for his interest to go back and try to settle scores,” Biden said, recounting the conversation they had.

Trump did not respond directly to that advice, according to the president.

“He didn’t. But he didn’t say, ‘No, I’m going to...’ You know. He didn’t reinforce it. He just basically listened,” Biden said.

“So you haven’t decided yet. You’re still assessing this issue?” Page asked.

“No, I haven’t,” Biden responded. “A little bit of it depends on who he puts in what positions,” Biden said. The Trump transition team did not respond to a request for comment. Inquiries sent to the employers of Cheney and Fauci were not returned.

Biden in late 2024 pardoned his son, Hunter Biden, whom a jury convicted of federal gun charges and who pleaded guilty to intentionally failing to pay taxes. Biden later pardoned another 39 people and commuted the sentences of some 1,500 others, including 37 death row prisoners. One individual floated as a possible preemptive pardon candidate is Hillary Clinton, the former secretary of state. Clinton, who mishandled confidential emails and whose campaign funded opposition research against Trump, was included in a list compiled by Kash Patel, Trump’s nominee for FBI director. The list, Patel has said, are participants in the so-called deep state. Clinton’s husband, former President Bill Clinton, has said that he does not think Biden should preemptively pardon his wife. “I hope he won’t do that,” he said during a recent television appearance on Dec. 11. A Clinton Foundation spokesperson did not return a request for comment. Biden this month awarded Cheney, who was mentioned during the interview, a Presidential Citizens Medal for her work as vice chair of a House panel that investigated the Jan. 6, 2021, breach of the U.S. Capitol. Biden said Cheney and other former officials who received the medal in the ceremony had “dedicated their careers to serving our democracy” and “served in difficult times with honor, decency and ensure our democracy delivers.”


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: fjb; pardons
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To: Fuzz

Ford supposedly carried around in his wallet text from the Burdick case.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/236/79/

“There are substantial differences between legislative immunity and a pardon; the latter carries an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession of it, while the former is noncommittal, and tantamount to silence of the witness.”


21 posted on 01/08/2025 10:06:09 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Fuzz

Wow.

I didn’t even know there was such a thing until now.


22 posted on 01/08/2025 10:06:16 AM PST by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

So we could use “pardoned” former XXX when referring to that person. Just like the Libs with Trump…..


23 posted on 01/08/2025 10:07:34 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show host to me.... Sting)
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To: montag813

The States can still go after Fauci-the pardon would only be Federal


24 posted on 01/08/2025 10:07:40 AM PST by kaktuskid
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To: ClearCase_guy
o if you commit the murder today, you will become untouchable next week.

It's not a federal crime to murder your neighbor but a state crime.

25 posted on 01/08/2025 10:07:55 AM PST by BipolarBob (I injured myself measuring radio frequencies. It still Hertz.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

My thoughts exactly


26 posted on 01/08/2025 10:08:27 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show host to me.... Sting)
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To: Red Badger

“Pre-emptive” pardon is misleading. The pardon is for past acts. What Biden really is doing is issuing a blanket pardon for anything Fauci or Cheney did in the past that the Republicans conceivably could charge them for. That is dangerous. The pardon would have to be broad and vague. If it is broad and vague, it could cover anything. Biden could intend to cover Fauci for his COVID response, but what if Fauci committed bank fraud, or beat his wife, or some other illegal act unrelated to COVID. He’d be covered. Hopefully someone challenges the constitutionality of the blanket pardons that Biden handed out to his son and may hand out to Fauci and Cheney. They are unprecedented.


27 posted on 01/08/2025 10:08:44 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: Seruzawa

Yes.


28 posted on 01/08/2025 10:10:53 AM PST by Lazamataz (The BEST birthday present I ever got WAS DONALD TRUMP WINNING IN 2024!!!)
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To: lurk

Yes.


29 posted on 01/08/2025 10:11:08 AM PST by Lazamataz (The BEST birthday present I ever got WAS DONALD TRUMP WINNING IN 2024!!!)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
If pre-emptive pardons are now a thing, we can expect each president to issue pre-emptive pardons for every member of his administration prior to leaving office from now on.

I wrote an article on this.

30 posted on 01/08/2025 10:11:57 AM PST by Lazamataz (The BEST birthday present I ever got WAS DONALD TRUMP WINNING IN 2024!!!)
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To: RummyChick

That was a pardon after the fact. Not a preemptive pardon, whatever that is. Lawyers are going to argue this for years I bet


31 posted on 01/08/2025 10:13:14 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Red Badger

If they happen Congress needs to bring them in for questioning. No 5th amendment rights— if they lie- send them to jail. If nothing it can expose what really happened.

Guess we will have to go after the low level soldiers, while the pardoned have to rat them out. This will be good optics.


32 posted on 01/08/2025 10:13:39 AM PST by dgbrown
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To: Red Badger

Would they also be immune from civil liabilities?


33 posted on 01/08/2025 10:14:53 AM PST by LuxAerterna
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To: Seruzawa

Preemptive means before the person is charged or convicted.


34 posted on 01/08/2025 10:15:55 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: Red Badger

issues preemptive pardons for all illegals ...


35 posted on 01/08/2025 10:17:32 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: All

On the bright side, if he (they) do this, it would be an admission that the recipients of the pardons ARE guilty of something serious..


36 posted on 01/08/2025 10:17:48 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Red Badger

You can’t pardon someone for a crime they haven’t been charged with yet.


37 posted on 01/08/2025 10:18:39 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Red Badger
SC needs to chime in on this. Presidential Pardons are Constitutional.

"Blanket" pardons is a whole different critter, and is a legitimate issue for them to weigh in on.

38 posted on 01/08/2025 10:19:06 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: Red Badger

There is no such thing as a “preemptive pardon”. You can only pardon something that has already happened.

What he means is permission to commit a crime, and he does not have the authority to grant that.

The man is obsessed with losing power, and with the real man who is about to have that power.

I will be relieved on Jan 20 the moment the power is passed on to Trump, and biden loses that power. He has done immense damage to this country. Much more that obammy did.


39 posted on 01/08/2025 10:19:17 AM PST by I want the USA back (Assassination attempts. Are we supposed to just forget about them? They dropped out of the news. )
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To: Seruzawa

You aren’t understanding the terms. Nixon’s pardon was a preemptive pardon. He was never charged.

You aren’t using the terms correctly. A pardon will always be after the deed as no pardon can be granted before the deed is done.

Carter granted pardons to draft dodgers whether charged or not. He didnt pardon FUTURE draft dodgers.


40 posted on 01/08/2025 10:21:27 AM PST by RummyChick
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