Posted on 01/04/2025 6:19:47 AM PST by george76
Matthew Livelsberger is a patsy, the question is for who and what purpose?
Let's break down why I think this is true by going through everything that we know so far, a thread:
There is still a lot we do not know about Matthew Livelsberger, the alleged Vegas bomber, but here is what we do know and there is a lot that does not add up:
He recently made the E8 list for MSG in 2023 in an 18Z slot, which means he was a Special Forces soldier and if he pinned, would have still been on Active Duty. This also means he was well within his Team Sergeant time.
He was an 18E, Special Forces Communications Sergeant and then went to the Fox course to become an 18F, Intelligence Sergeant before making the E8 list.
He also apparently was Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems (SUAS) qualified, which implies he had training as a drone pilot. I'm submitting a FOIA request for his military records, but expect that to take some time.
He rented the Cybertruck from Turo, the same company that the NOLA terrorist used. The back of the truck was full of mortar fireworks, gasoline canisters, and campfire fuel canisters, which are all combustible but would not be ideal for an explosion to create maximum damage.
Here is the crazy part, with the level of experience that he had, how does it make sense that he would rent a Cybertruck, which are known to be bulletproof, and fill it with ineffective explosives that he would know would not actually damage much, if anything?
The front windows of the building did not even break.
The other crazy part, his wife, Sara Livelsberger, has multiple anti-Trump posts on her social media from years and years ago. So, if he was radicalized, if this all was an attempt to hurt people and destroy a Trump building, why would he go about it in such an incompetent and ineffective manner?
Lots not adding up here. Will add more as information comes to light.
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The first and most obvious reason is because the police have reported that he died from a GSW to his head 'prior' to the explosion, yet there were no reported gunshots in the 15-20 seconds before the Cybertruck exploded.
Needless to say, it is odd that one would shoot themselves in the head with a 50-caliber Desert Eagle right before blowing themselves up. It simply makes no sense.
I've seen some people saying, "maybe he did not want to burn to death so he shot himself first," but I believe that is silly. Any professional trying to carry out an actual attack would want to ensure their explosion went off without issue. They would not kill themselves before hand and take the chance of wasting the opportunity.
Also, the rifle he supposedly had in the vehicle had no iron sights nor any other optics, which basically makes it worthless for any type of engagement. Another red flag.
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The second reason is because he was a highly experienced Special Forces soldier that would not have created such an abomination of an explosive device that was both silly and ineffective.
He was SF for long enough to have used a CARVER matrix and to understand basic explosives. If the intent was political, the intent was missed due to the second-rate explosive he supposedly used.
We are trained in Home Made Explosives (HMEs). He could have gotten everything he needed from a local hardware store to level the entire bottom floor of the Trump hotel. There is simply no way he thought the combustibles he had in the back of that bulletproof truck would have been enough to do any damage to anything.
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The third reason is that his Signal safety number changed just before the explosion, and then somehow his photo and safety number changed AFTER the explosion.
Clearly this was manipulated by somebody other than him, as he was deceased and would not have been able to change anything. Find who changed his signal info and you find who shot him in the head. x.com/APhilosophae/s… The fourth reason is that GBs that knew him are convinced that he could not have done this, nor would have had any reason to do so.
@angertab has also reported that he was approached by someone pretending to be a GB previously on his team, claiming that Matthew was suicidal so that it would be recorded if they reported it.
Again, find who this person is, and you likely find the culprit behind the entire thing.
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The fifth reason is that he was still Active Duty, had just had a 6 month old baby with his new wife, and had a literal multitude of jobs ahead of him when he retired.
Yes, I understand that sometimes people end their own lives for one reason or another and it does not make sense to us, but all of this coupled with the evidence we have so far makes me believe that he was, indeed, a patsy.
We need to see every single piece of evidence from this investigation and if anything is withheld, then it only further confirms my suspicions that this was a setup to frame one of our best soldiers with a heinous crime.
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Also, on a side note, the 50 cal shot to his head ensured that his entire head was little more than splatter, destroying any hope of obtaining and matching dental records in the process.
Tell me how this smells…
“The one I’m worried about is the new technique of dreaded disease”
They will keep that on the shelf for a while.
Next up—reptilian alien invasion.
Gotta unite and fight for your species ya know!
The crisis will be so great they will have to lift the David Icke ban throughout the European Union.
:-)
Heh heh... sniffed another one out.
I’m going to have to get a little ‘tard stencil.
Wrong again larry.
Looks like I rooted out another one.
I’m calling this confirmed, going to get my little ‘tard stencil out and paint ‘er up.
Yes.
Sadly, this won’t be acknowledged until after the next attacks when they finger it on the next Usama bin Laden (an - ahem - irony).
He was a depressed dude wanting to kill himself and make a splash, he wasn’t trying to blow up Fort Knox. And just because he was an explosives expert in the military, doesn’t mean he had access to or time to access any sophisticated explosives here at home. I seriously doubt he had a Federal Explosive User Permit or Ammonium Nitrate User number and without such, he would not have been able to buy anything other than black powder, reloading powder or weaker explosives.
And seriously don’t you think if this was a dark conspiracy to get back at or punish Trump, they themselves would have used a bigger bomb ?? One that would have caused mass casualties, significant damage and a flurry of later lawsuits against Trump and his hotel chain ??? As it is, all there was, was a poor unfortunate dead guy and a little fire and boom.
Sounds like projection to me.
Do you often dream about "making a splash?"
I hope they check the fingerprints on both phones. Then again, if it’s the fbi checking it why would we believe them anyway?
It doesn’t make sense that the psychological “REASONS” given on the phone don’t fit the scenario given in the email. Makes me wonder if they were found on the same phone, or if one phone had a different “personality”/cover story than the otheŕ.
Ughhhh no, I don’t think about making a splash nor do I think about killing myself period. What I do think about though is what is the most probable explanation for something. One that usually doesn’t involve some complicated highly unlikely conspiracy.
"Most probable" based upon your projection of your own psychological issues.
Thanks to posting to me Pete but I’m swamped with other stuff, sorry.
It seems most believe it here. You are the most obstinate person on here. If it doesn’t fit your beliefs, It’s wrong. You must drive your family insane.
Look in the mirror.
Did anyone report the noise from a desert Eagle round going off prior to the explosion? It was at the front door of the hotel.
No, most probable based on common sense, not tin foil hat delusions of vast government conspiracies.
Yep.
She quit posting back in 2016. Lots of people were, at best, doubtful about Trump.
You do realize the term “conspiracy theory” was coined by the CIA to discredit the John Birch Society, just about every one of which’s “conspiracy theories” have come true?
Don’t care where the term originated and don’t care how many conspiracy theories have ended up true, it is certainly a minority of the ones that have been hatched. In this case, in my opinion, they seem to be bordering on silly paranoia.
I just don’t get it. On the one hand we keep hearing people here talking about how inept the government is, especially the FBI but then some of the same people hatch these elaborate theories about how masterfully these same government types are pulling the wool over everyone’s eyes. It seems almost schizophrenic. I am not saying the government hasn’t done some crappy things, it certainly has, but it isn’t responsible for every coincidence and there isn’t a government agent behind every rock.
Bkmk - thanks for this explanation - I am one of the many who didn’t know what this meant
Well, the message is that he hates Trump and Musk.
I wonder if he thought he could bring down Trump Tower LV with the bomb that he made.
Didn't Laura Logan state that he shot himself in the left side of the head even though he was right-handed. If he was shot on the left side of the head, THIS COULD BE DUE TO THE FACT HE WAS SHOT DEAD BY SOMEONE ELSE FROM THE DRIVER SIDE OF THE VEHICLE.
I think he was PLACED into the vehicle UNCONSCIOUS, then SHOT, then the vehicle was programmed to drive to the hotel , self-park then fireworks detonated.
Elon Musk SHOULD be able to prove whether or not this vehicle was driven MANUALLY by a driver or on AUTOPILOT!
I WANT TO SEE VIDEO OF THIS VEHICLE ON THE ROADS OF VEGAS PRIOR TO ITS ARRIVAL AT THE HOTEL. If the vehicle drove in PERFECT ALIGNMENT within the lanes in an autopilot fashion, then it was NOT being "driven" by this wacko and he was probably already DEAD.
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