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The Disappearance of the Male Role
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2024/12/30/the-disappearance-of-the-male-role/ ^ | 12/30/2024 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 12/31/2024 8:55:39 AM PST by TTFX

Over the course of my lifetime I have watched the role of men taken away. The role of the male as provider, defender, and disciplinarian is no more. It was destroyed by feminists.

To clarify “feminist”: In the past when I have criticized feminists older women who had careers asked why I thought women shouldn’t have careers. Their idea is that a feminist is a woman who has a career. But women have always had careers as mothers, homemakers, grandmothers, school teachers, nurses, secretaries, writers, artists, musicians, scientists, and even spies such as Eve Gordon who made during World War II 112 parachute jumps into occupied Europe. Even in pre-feminist days, one of my aunts despite being married had a career outside the home. She enjoyed the discipline of getting to work on time, the interaction with other people, and meeting new ones.

By feminist I mean a person with an ideological agenda of obliterating the difference between men and women. When I was young men were raised to respect women. When a woman entered a room, the men stood. Doors were opened for women and their entrance proceeded the man’s. Car doors were opened for women who were helped in and out. At the dining table men stood until the women were seated. In those days men still wore hats. A gentleman passing a lady on the sidewalk was expected to tip his hat in respect. A man who struck a woman or used a four-letter word in a lady’s presence suffered a ruined reputation.

Feminists derided the many ways in which respect was shown to women as “placing women on a pedestal.” Showing respect for women was somehow undervaluing them and treating them unequally. Feminists insisted on women being pulled down into the gutter with men.

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1 posted on 12/31/2024 8:55:39 AM PST by TTFX
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To: TTFX

The man...20 years my senior....insisted on opening the door for me. Of course that was in the 80s.


2 posted on 12/31/2024 8:57:55 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: TTFX

The hat tipping was respect?? My mom would have slugged dad if he tipped his hat to a woman on the street.


3 posted on 12/31/2024 9:00:06 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: TTFX

Feminists have done more harm and social damage to women than any male chauvinistic pig misogynist could ever do.

I take exception to the opening. My role was never taken away. My role as a man was never destroyed.


4 posted on 12/31/2024 9:00:28 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: TTFX

Women should stop trying to be equal with men and get back on the pedestal where they belong.


5 posted on 12/31/2024 9:04:26 AM PST by systemjim (Lifetime Lover of Music)
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To: TTFX

Men do need to treat women kindly and above all stop committing adultery with them in their hearts.

Maturity has gone out the door in this porn saturated world where children are sexually harmed at early ages through various methods even genital mutilation at this point.


6 posted on 12/31/2024 9:06:10 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: TTFX
He is right in the sense that men need to treat women with lots more respect.

Women need to stop giving it away, stop getting tatted, stop being gay, stop rejecting their role as life-givers to the next generation.

Of course it takes two to tango, but people need to get married and have kids, and take the institution seriously.

No more children out of wedlock.

Take life seriously. Don't use kids as a meal ticket.

7 posted on 12/31/2024 9:07:34 AM PST by caddie
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To: TTFX

To this day I will protect a woman I don’t know or open a door for her.

I’m a dinosaur.


8 posted on 12/31/2024 9:15:27 AM PST by Entropy Squared (The Rush to Chaos)
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9 posted on 12/31/2024 9:29:46 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: TTFX

“By feminist I mean a person with an ideological agenda of obliterating the difference between men and women.”

This falls under “careful what you wish for.” A lot of dudes are calling themselves “women” on a lark and women are having their privacy violated daily.


10 posted on 12/31/2024 9:33:59 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: TTFX

Feminists have indeed done a lot of damage to both men and women but we also need to look at our societal definition of success to understand better. In times past, a man or a woman was expected to maintain a decent personal life in order to achieve success in the outer world. Take a look at ancient teaching contracts which spelled out behavior. Corporations used to look askance at men who dumped their first wives for arm candy. Women who got pregnant out of wedlock faced firings. Celebrities hid their base proclivities carefully in order not to offend audiences.
Politicians with even a whiff of scandal didn’t even bother to run again. Transvestites performed in their own bedrooms only.

Was it fair? Not always but it helped diminish those problems by tying behavior to success. Today? Not so much. Celebrities trumpet their weaknesses. Politicians dare us to disparage. Corporations don’t care about your personal life so long as you help the bottom line. Schools praise “transformative” teachers. This, as much as anything, taught men and women that society doesn’t count, doesn’t have the right to criticize or penalize them for “being true to themselves” and doing whatever feels right at the moment. If we want to change society, we need to concentrate on this as well as feminism principles.


11 posted on 12/31/2024 9:34:39 AM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Sacajaweau

My wife and I were on vacation up in Maine a few years back and had dinner at a restaurant. When we came out, I opened the passenger door to let her inside.

I heard a honk, and looked up to see an 18 wheeler parked nearby with what appeared to be an elderly couple in the cab, and they waved and gave me a thumbs up!

I stopped taking all forms of public transportation, but one of the last times I went on a mass transit train, it was wall to wall people at rush hour, straphangers. There was a woman much older than I, and I got up and motioned to her to have a seat next to my wife.

The woman glared at me in panic as if I had threatened to light her on fire. Then a young guy jumped into the seat.


12 posted on 12/31/2024 9:37:39 AM PST by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: BenLurkin

Worry not, the toxic male will be back when the big war comes. After the first big defeat people will wake up to the need for real he men. I just hope its not too late.


13 posted on 12/31/2024 9:39:47 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell, War IS a Crime.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

As long as there are fish to catch, deer to hunt and little white balls to hit with a stick...men will continue their role.


14 posted on 12/31/2024 9:48:48 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: TTFX
I have watched the role of men taken away. The role of the male as provider, defender, and disciplinarian is no more. It was destroyed by feminists.

Uh, no.

Men gave in to modernity and, more precisely, progressivism. They embraced divorce and self-esteem as a substitute for masculinity.

This victimology and woe-is-me-the-bad-feminists nonsense is akin to gender reassignment surgery.

The destruction of the family is perhaps THE greatest corrosive factor at play in society. Most ills we see today can be traced to Mom and Dad splitting up, putting selfishness ahead of familial unity.

Mr Roberts is observing a symptom. Because blaming a symptom because it is easy, and he won’t annoy many of his followers.

Yeah, I know….what about abuse? Of course, leave….marriage isn’t a death compact.

Otherwise, work out your problems. That’s how it used to be solved. Go back to that avenue, and watch society turn around fast.

15 posted on 12/31/2024 10:13:53 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s² )
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“The role of the male as provider, defender, and disciplinarian is no more. It was destroyed by feminists.”

If law and order in the world ever breaks down all those feminists preaching that and striving for that will quickly realize why this has been a man’s world through the ages.


16 posted on 12/31/2024 10:38:26 AM PST by antidemoncrat ( )
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mark


17 posted on 12/31/2024 11:16:37 AM PST by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: TTFX

The feminization of the male part society

No offense to real women intended

Insert picture of effeminate Obama


18 posted on 12/31/2024 11:46:49 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Day's of Lot; They id Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: TTFX

make me a sammich bump


19 posted on 12/31/2024 11:56:08 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“Worry not, the toxic male will be back when the big war comes.“

Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Only in our hyper developed digital world is all of this freedom from traditional roles possible. Let the shit hit the fan guys are going to be expected to go back to the old protect and defend…If they even remember how.


20 posted on 12/31/2024 2:57:29 PM PST by TalBlack (Time to use the Law and the Power. Good luck Mr. President.)
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