Posted on 06/21/2022 11:33:29 AM PDT by Impala64ssa
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The fact that its a ridiculously made up holiday is enough for me to ignore it.
it is not the Emancipation Proclamation that should be celebrated instead of Juneteenth. Both were incomplete, only applying in limited geographical areas.
it is rather the date the 13th amendment was ratified, which occurred in December 1865, which applied emancipation to 100% of the USA and ended all state-supported slavery in the USA forever.
Agree!
I respectfully disagree. The Dims wanted to be on record as being the party of the Juneteenth holiday to try to make the dumb masses believe the Dims were always on the side of slaves. Much like the Dims want the masses to believe the Dims were the ones who ended segregation.
The Dims don't have to explicitly lie like: "Hey, we're the party that ended slavery and segregation to free you from evil Republicans". It works to just make the masses FEEL like the Dims were on the right side of history. Facts don't matter. Feelings do.
Very good points. Feelings over facts.
Interesting discourse, but he does repeat the incorrect claim that the first slave owner was black.
first, i am a halfbreed, so this whole “toilet paper roll of an imaginery shopping list” does not concern me.
second, “yourlist” makes no concessions towards any member of the U.S. military. People who have given their lives, so that you can dream up this academic orgasm.
thank you for this long joke.
“2) On Juneteenth we want white people to read, study Black history, Black poets, Black leaders, Black achievements.”
I read of the number of black on black murders every year and wondered why none of the alleged “Civil Rights” groups or almost none of other the leaders in the black communities ignore this.
wasn’t one of the 1st slave owners here black?
One of the most vexing questions in African-American history is whether free African Americans themselves owned slaves. The short answer to this question, as you might suspect, is yes, of course; some free black people in this country bought and sold other black people, and did so at least since 1654, continuing to do so right through the Civil War.
I can't celebrate it because I don't know what it is.
I worked all day on Monday.
Something I’ve been toying with for a few weeks while I awaited a university history professor friend to fact-check me. “A little short on detail, but the details are correct” he said.
I trained for a time as an intel analyst (98C) couldn’t get a clearance (long story), but some elements of data gathering and correlation align with my medical training so it wasn’t time wasted.
here goes:
Juneteenth
400 years of slavery.
We hear this lie often from the revisionist history groups like BLM, Black Panthers, 1619 project, and it’s never challenged. Neither are the facts of the 1863 Emancipation Proclamation or its application.
First, “America” was a British colony until 1783, a loose collection of “states” until the Constitution was ratified.
Controlled by King George, III England sent petty (and worse) criminals as slaves to the colonies by “Transport” (sold to ship’s captains, resold in slave markets in the Caribbean as “indentured servants” but sold, nonetheless), “impressed” colonial subjects into military service (said enslavement continued until the war of 1812 and was revived by President Lincoln), and bought slaves from African tribes and muslim slavers.
His Royalist troops surrendered to Geo. Washington’s forces in 1783, our Constitution signed 1788 (ratified in 1791), THEN we became The United States of America, with a President and everything.
As much as Thomas Jefferson and others wanted to include his majesty’s policies on slavery as one of the reasons for separation in our Declaration of Independence, the vetoes of Georgia and South Carolina against this statement forced it out (the Declaration had to be UNANIMOUS).
So true “American” enslavement of Africans ONLY lasted for 74 or 77 years. June 21, 1788 (or 1791) until Juneteenth 1865 (really December’65).
Lincoln’s prima facie unconstitutional Emancipation Proclamation Executive Order of 1863, only “freed” our enemies’ (the CSA’s) slaves while slaves in Missouri, Delaware, Maryland, Texas kept on totin’ barges and lifting bales and munitions for the Union Forces at train depots and shipping ports for several more years.
Lincoln freed no one with his unconstitutional taking (violating the 4th Amendment- SCOTUS had ruled slaves property in Dred Scott vs. Sandford in 1858 which was stare decisis until the 13th Amendment passed, DECEMBER 18, 1865 and proclaimed on Dec. 21.
Texans, Missourians, Delaware, Maryland STILL owned slaves, LEGALLY. From Juneteenth until that Amendment was passed and proclaimed.
Celebrating Juneteenth is rewriting history. And reparations for slavery? You have to start with the lineal descendants of the transportees and the United Kingdom first, Transport went on from Jamestown on to the shot heard ‘round the world.
I think it was Trump’s idea.
I am not totally clear on what it is, let alone give a damn.
Something to do with negros, like that fake kwansee thing I gather.
I like to keep up on this vital social movement stuff. Apparently the first African slaves were imported in 1619 and after 400 years of slavery they were freed in 2019 by Donald Trump on the 19th of June. I’m pretty sure that’s right.
You rasis !!!
You forgot Michael Brown !!!
That’s the date of my birthday. WHen I was at USPS, my wife and I were always invited to Juneteenth celebrations. We all had a great time, usually hot as heck with delicious food.
“and it’s not the Emancipation Proclamation date of January 1, 1863, because???”
The current thought is whites puposely kept blacks in the dark about their freedom to subjugate them. It is the CRT holiday of separation and guilt; divisive at its core
It actually took them another 8 months to free the slaves from their Republican owners. December 6, 1865.
That is incorrect. Freeing slaves had nothing to do with the reason for that war. Nobody intended to do that when the war started, and they certainly didn't free any slaves in the five Union slave states during the war.
The Union army was there to stop a financial threat to the power block running Washington DC. They did not fight for any noble or moral reason, they fought to enslave others who didn't want to be ruled by corrupt Washington DC.
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