Posted on 06/21/2022 11:33:29 AM PDT by Impala64ssa
She's leaving out a lot of important details.
Firstly, there is a "due process" provision in the Constitution. You have to determine if someone has committed a crime before you can take their property.
In this case, it was an en masse confiscation without due process. Congress can't override the US Constitution without going through the amendment process, and they didn't do that.
Secondly, "Secession in not Rebellion." (Chief Justice Samuel P. Chase.) No effort was made by the seceding states to seize power in Washington DC and overthrow the elected government. It was not a "rebellion" it was "independence." The claim that it was a "rebellion" is just a lie.
Thirdly, Abraham Lincoln wrote out an arrest warrant for Chief Justice Taney and gave it to a Federal Marshall who was his good friend and personal bodyguard and told him to serve it on the Judge whenever he thought the time appropriate.
Lincoln tried to arrest the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court! (Doodle will tell you the Federal Marshall bodyguard made the whole thing up, but there is other corroborating evidence indicating it really happened.)
So after trying to arrest a Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the court became Lincoln's lapdog and would do anything he asked them to do.
So a 1862 Supreme Court rendering a "decision" is like a Soviet court rendering a decision. It will be whatever the power holder wants.
Firstly, there is a "due process" provision in the Constitution. You have to determine if someone has committed a crime before you can take their property.
What the 5th Amendment says is "nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law". The Confiscation acts were law.
You have to determine if someone has committed a crime before you can take their property.
Apparently not in your imaginative interpretation. We're not talking about a simple crime. What you overlook is that the Southerners were waging a rebellion against the U.S. and that Southern citizens were belligerents in that rebellion. Therefore their property, and that of neutrals if they were in the territory of the belligerent, can be subject to seizure without compensation. Nothing illegal or unconstitutional in that.
Secondly, "Secession in not Rebellion." (Chief Justice Samuel P. Chase.)
No, rebellion is rebellion. And rebellion was what the Southern states were engaged in during the 1861 to 1865 period.
<1>Lincoln tried to arrest the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court! (Doodle will tell you the Federal Marshall bodyguard made the whole thing up, but there is other corroborating evidence indicating it really happened.)
Doodle will also point out that no such arrest warrant was ever served, no copy has ever been found, and not a single one of Chief Justice Taney's biographers found enough credible evidence to include anything about the Taney arrest warrant in any of their books. Fake news from the Lost Cause Book of Fairy Tales.
So after trying to arrest a Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, the court became Lincoln's lapdog and would do anything he asked them to do.
One of DiogenesLamp's favorite whines, vintage 2022.
The truth? Yeah, it doesn't change, and for people who don't like it, it sounds like the same old "crap" again.
Huh???
So you can overturn The Constitution by writing a law that says you don't have to follow The Constitution...???
Wow... Doddle...
I read your whole diatribe. Man, do you have it all backwards.
Are you sure you want to belong on FREE Republic? Where we like FREEdom?
As he said- the south were not ‘rebelling’ they were seceding. They posed no threat to Washington, until Washington made war on them.
They were seceding AS THEY WERE PROMISED they would be able to do.
I have said it often, the civil war (the first, and last I hope) was more about states rights than anything else. Slavery was just a vehicle.
Imagine that if, instead of being forced to end slavery, they were forced to do something else- like buy health insurance...
It’s the same thing. The federal government was forcing them to do something other that was was specifically given in the enumerated powers.
10 Things We Want Black People to Do to Celebrate ______ (insert chosen holiday here)
1) We want Black people to deeply consider the wound of racism on the hearts of every White American. Racism needs to be eradicated, on either side.
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8) Then we want Black people to talk to us and we'll listen and we'll talk and they'll listen and together, we'll come to an agreement on what needs to be done to make ALL of our lives better.
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The constitutionality of the Confiscation Acts was upheld by the Supreme Court in their 1862 Prize Cases decision.
They were rebelling. Look it up. It's in all the history books.
They posed no threat to Washington, until Washington made war on them.
Shooting up a fort and forcing it to surrender is an odd way of demonstrating peaceful intent.
They were seceding AS THEY WERE PROMISED they would be able to do.
Promised where?
I have said it often, the civil war (the first, and last I hope) was more about states rights than anything else.
State's right to do what?
"Alternate facts" really isn't a thing, regardless of how hard you try.
Exactly. It sounds like you are starting to get it.
Just like January 6 was an "insurrection!" When you control all the levers of communications, you can put lies into the history books.
Promised where?
Declaration of Independence. It is quite clear on the point.
State's right to do what?
Run their own trade and economics. They already had the right to continue slavery in the Union, (and would have continued to do so in the Union) so we know it isn't that.
Good video.
A better event to celebrate is the passage of the 13th Amendment which ended slavery everywhere, even Joe Biden’s state of Delaware. The 13th Amendment to the Constitution may be the ultimate civil rights act, though it does not seem to be recognized as such. My guess is that Democrats opposed its passage.
HISTORY: Not all slaves were freed by the Emancipation Proclamation, nor via Juneteenth. Only the slaves of the REBEL states were freed then. Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation was a wartime effort to split and weaken the South; he did NOT free any slaves in the Northern states. Slaves in the non-rebelling border states had to wait for the 13th Amendment, effective December 18, 1865.
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