Posted on 05/28/2022 9:09:54 AM PDT by fightin kentuckian
Went to see the new Top Gun last night with my hot girlfriend. The first time I saw the original I was in Air Force Tech School and went to see it with my wing man at the mall in Henderson KY. This was of course, smack dab in the middle of the 80s when the movie really meant something. I had expected this to flop like the remake of Red Dawn because in large part due to the context of the time, then and now. But I was disproved, thank goodness, read on.
I wanted to like this movie a whole lot because of my history with it and I'll try not to give too much away. I'll cut to the chase, overall the movie was fantastic. It was nail biter. It was not as sophisticated as the plot in the first movie but not bad. I would have executed it differently with my 30+ year military background to make it a little more believable but that's me.
There was NO overt political language and that was very nice given todays movies. However there small political realities of the woke era that you'll notice. For example they never used the term "cockpit". Instead they used a term, "pilot in the box". Oh well. And the pilots assembled for the dangerous mission were the utmost in diversity, with a tough talking hispanic female, a dorky white guy named Bob, and the rest black and hispanic millennials acting like the had watched the first Top Gun several times in order to learn how to act like an Alpha Male. They did an OK job.
They tried to mimic the testerone filled VollyBall scene with a very watered down beach football scene. There were a few shirtless beefcake shots but nothing close to the original. After all we couldn't overshadow the strong hispanic female pilot or offend any beta cucks in the audience. But one thing I did notice that was a pleasant surprise, there wasn't one tattoo or piercing shown in that scene.
The dogfighting scenes were a different story and the pilots behavior was very, very millennial. In the first movie all the pilots were angry with themselves for not being good enough to best their instructors. In this movie the pilots sound just like the whiny millennials that they are. I heard a lot of, "we can't keep up with him" and "we don't do it that way, he's an old guy". Very different mentalities from 37 years ago.
One odd thing, when the movie starts out Mav is living in a hanger at an old navy airfield working on his P-51 Mustang (Yep, Wow!) and in the background of the hanger you see vintage motorcycles and cars and Mav's living quarters. This was out of character for Mav but it seems to me the producers borrowed heavily from Clive Cussler's, Dirk Pit character for this aspect of Mav's life.
That's about it. Overall I really liked and enjoyed the movie Oh and btw, Jennifer Connoley is my new crush. She'll be yours too.
Have a great and safe Memorial Day Weekend Freepers.
Guess you don’t know about the crazy/hot matrix. . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pInk1rV2VEg
Funny. . .you need a sense of humor to appreciate.
Way ahead of you. See my post # 24.
Entertaining and well made movie. Flight scenes pretty incredible at an imax thetre. A “feel good” about the U.S movie that avoids political BS as much as is possible in the current woke climate.
You need the right actress to pull off the tough-girl persona. She ought to look actually tough, like Vasquez in “Aliens.” Or even Ellen Ripley in the same movie.
“Zero (Drag Queen Shows) that I noticed.”
Is that the censored version for China you’re referring to?
What I need is soft and lithe femininity that loves a man’s strength and doesn’t have any desire to compete with him. A girl who knows who she is and loves men for what they are. A rare breed these days
The opposite of the unnatural monsters into which the Women’s Movement is turning women.
I saw it today. It gets the ‘Boomer’ seal of approval. Like the OP said, not as complex, but we already know the back story. This was a nicely done ‘feel-good’ sequel I would recommend.
With all the bad happening in America and other parts of the world today; it was nice entertaining break from all the nonsense. That’s really all I ask from a movie. It held my interest as well.
Awesome movie. Ed Harris is the consulate actor so few per generation. I loved the movie. Shots from inside the carrier real I stic. Been on the George C Stennis and this movie captures the flight deck. The training flights are entertaining. Mission is Iran for sure. Tom has a great remake.
Movie is not woke and reflects the reality of today’s military.
All star cast. Goose’s son is a dead ringer. The movie is made for the big screen.
Do yourselves a favor. Watch this one while in theaters. This is one of the best movies in the last 15 years.
Even the paratroopers from Ft Bragg were impressed.
A must see non PC real action film.
Well, some women are sporty or tomboyish by nature. Men need tough and strong women like Vasquez and Ripley with them on the frontiers, wherever those may be. Settling and building up new lands or exploring space are not easy endeavors.
Cecily, I can’t play patty-cake with this one.
The issue of the day is the Women’s Movement telling women to compete with men and take their jobs in the workplace, not be homemakers and lovers of their families at home , kill their unborn babies, and not obey their husbands. All of which is ruining families and society. “Political correctness” is deadly and destructive.
Nobody says it, nobody talks about it.
But God help me, I will because I love people and women and families and society who the Lord loves much more, and the truth needs to be spoken.
Mrs. POF and I went and saw “Top Gun” last night. I thought it was a real stinker from so many different angles from the very beginning. Mach 10? The SR-71 operated at Mach 3.2 and had many problems with skin and structural materials heating and keeping the cockpit cool. In the movie, the test pilot just brashly decides to push the craft as far as he can and at Mach 10.2 the plane suddenly has materials overheating problems arise? That’s ludicrous. At Mach 10 (7000 mph), materials will be in the neighborhood of 3,600 F, the hotspot at the nose of the vehicle. There is almost no support crew for the world’s fastest aircraft? Just four or five people in the control room?
Then, as you pointed out, they never used the traditional word “cockpit,” instead substituting the incredibly stupid “pilot in the box.” Does anybody actually say that? When I was young, “box” was slang for female private parts, so does changing “cockpit” to “box” actually change anything?
The diversity of the entire team really irked me with the way they checked every single box. Of course, they had to toss in an introverted, weird, small-stature white guy named “Bob” just like TV shows the stupid white dad in families. But they were stuck with all the over-machoed brawny white guy pilots.
The plot was SO formulaic. Washed-up, over-age Top Gun pilot made trainer, impossible to survive test plane crash, USA just unilaterally decides to attack another nation and destroy one nuclear enrichment site, silly mission objective to bomb one underground nuclear enrichment plant, brawny guys playing football on the beach, ogre know-nothing senior brass, fighter planes following impossible terrain up canyons, stealing an old Tomcat (all gassed up and ready to fly) from the enemy, young-buck love interest between two now-old people.
Sending in aging non-stealth F-18 fighter/bombers with just two munitions loaded on each aircraft? Why not drop precision guided bunker buster or hyperbaric bombs from stealth bombers at high altitude?
I thought it was a real stinker from beginning to end. At least the flight scenes in the last 30 minutes were fun to watch (if you totally suspended your disbelief).
The first scene about breaking the speed record is actually lifted from Gen. Chuck Yeagers life. It was included in the movie The Right Stuff. Yeager decides on a whim to go for the speed record, tower hears it’s Yeager and assumes he’s clear because, hey, its Yeager after all. He then breaks the speed record and the plane disintegrates around him. Only difference is that Yeager was hospitalized with sever burns which occurred after ejection when his chute caught fire.
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