The logical argument that Fauci, Moderna, Pfizer and others may have fabricated fake Covid-19 vaccine trials and reported falsified data

3/24/2021 | vanity

[ransomnote]

Admin, you you add “May Have” to the title. I’m not saying I have proof they did. I’m saying logically it’s hard to refute my premise. Thank you.

[Pollard]

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[bagster]

You make a very good case, as usual.

But you may have to translate it into sheep for the Fearbros.

***Gimme my va-a-a-ax so I can be free-e-e-e.

#BahBah

[Brian Griffin]

There are known problems with PCR Covid testing.

However Pfizer is a large reputable company that would not fake a trial.

The lower rate of US deaths prove the vaccines are working.

[cgbg]

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End of rant.

[monkeyshine]

As to mRNA technology, it is also my understanding it has been around for well over a decade and never found to be of any use. Holds a lot of promise in theory but so far (maybe) not in practice. It bothers me a lot this rush and oodles of money to push the vaccines and very little energy or money to study potential treatments. Vaccines won’t help people already infected.

As for “lab rats that survive” it is my understanding that the lab rats used in trials are almost always killed for research purposes at some point. Maybe you mean that some died from the experimental vaccines and some did not. But they eventually get examined for development of tumors and such.

I have heard about these stories of motor oil and tropical fruits testing positive but not sure how real that is. We’ve seen a lot of inconsistencies, poorly designed studies and corner cutting and ‘working assumptions’ the last year - hard to know if we are really comparing apples to apples. As you said there are many different ways to test. If it is true the more common tests are just looking for a specific genetic sequence then I suppose that it is possible for this sequence to exist on its own regardless of the presence of the virus. And would it hold that potentially a virus could mutate so it no longer expresses that exact same gene sequence? Or the inverse, that other viruses might mutate and show this same sequence?

[semimojo]

I think it’s reasonable to assume that vaccine trial participants were give the PCR ‘test’ repeatedly: at the start of the trial, after Dose 1, after Dose 2, and then routinely through the 4 or so weeks of monitoring following to see at what point they might supposedly contract (e.g., subject’s PCR ‘test’ positive 10 days after vaccine administration – too soon for vaccine to protect participant).

That's not necessarily a reasonable assumption and from what I know they didn't do routine PCR testing of the two populations at all.

As you posted, Cases of COVID‑19, starting 14 days after Dose 2, were defined as symptomatic COVID‑19 requiring positive RT-PCR result.... The person had to have Covid symptoms and if so the diagnosis was confirmed by the PCR test.

Many more people who got the placebo had symptoms than those who got the vaccine.

People were only tested if they had symptoms, so it's possible many people who got the vaccine contracted asymptomatic disease, but note the manufacturers don't make any claims about efficacy against that.

To the overall point about false positives the nearly perfect correlation between positive case counts, hospitalizations and deaths indicates the tests are very often right.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

:: Holds a lot of promise in theory but so far (maybe) not in practice. ::

Let’s ask President Trump, shall we?
He says, “Regeneron is a miracle therapy.”

[metmom]

However Pfizer is a large reputable company that would not fake a trial.

How much are they paying you to say that?

[monkeyshine]

The lower rate of US deaths prove the vaccines are working.

You can't make that assumption. There could be many reasons why deaths are declining such as earlier intervention and better treatment protocols. Deaths are a trailing indicator anyway it is the "worst and final resolution" of an active infection case. There are millions of infected out there who remain unresolved.

AFAIK from BoBeaux's daily stat threads, only about 12-14% of the population has been completely vaccinated and roughly an equal number received 1 of the 2 shots. This would mean some 70% of the population has not yet been vaccinated at all and yet the numbers of cases and deaths is way down (more than one would expect given the rate of vaccination). I am sure other factors are at play in the daily case/death counts besides the vaccines.

[monkeyshine]

Regeneron is not a vaccine it is an antibody infusion. AFAIK it is not developed on the mRNA tech platform but I could be mistaken.

[House Atreides]

Your HYPERACTIVE ANTI-VAX JIHAD continues. So the vaccine trials used FAKE test results? So how did they know when to use false positive test results and show 95% difference between the trial participants who RECEIVED THE VACCINE VERSUS THOSE WHO RECEIVED THE PLACEBO?

By the way, may I assume you’re paid by the word and not by the scientific correctness of your jihad?

[bagster]

However Pfizer is a large reputable company that would not fake a trial.

"The climate scientists are reputable and they wouldn't fake their data".

"The electoral process is reputable, they would not fake the outcome".

"Bernie Madoff is reputable, he would not rip off his clients".

Hope that's enough to make my point, but just in case.

"The used care salesman is reputable, he wouldn't sell me a lemon".

[DugwayDuke]

Over 500,000 dead.

[bagster]

Writing tips:

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Condescension noted.

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[cyberstoic]

“ The lower rate of US deaths prove the vaccines are working.”

There is a huge hole in the parking lot where I work. It is an elephant trap to stop elephants. We have never seen an elephant. It totally works.

The death rate was falling before the vaccines were widely administered.

[DesertRhino]

“The CDC not only banned the off-label use of these drugs during a time they declared an unprecedented medical emergency, they wouldn’t even award these drugs “Emergency Use Authorization” they would later grant their fake vaccines.”

If a therapy is approved for use against a disease, CDC cannot give emergency use authorization to an experimental vaccine. And THAT is why all drugs to treat the disease are mercilessly attacked.

[Tellurian]

To the overall point about false positives ... [statistics] indicates the tests are very often right.

I at first had no faith in the PCR tests, but with time, seeing my SIL tested repeatedly (work related, probably a dozen times), and always testing negative, I've had to conclude that false positives are uncommon ... at least in the medical environment that administered his tests.

[cgbg]

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