[ransomnote]

Admin, you you add “May Have” to the title. I’m not saying I have proof they did. I’m saying logically it’s hard to refute my premise. Thank you.

[Pollard]

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[bagster]

You make a very good case, as usual.

But you may have to translate it into sheep for the Fearbros.

***Gimme my va-a-a-ax so I can be free-e-e-e.

#BahBah

[Brian Griffin]

There are known problems with PCR Covid testing.

However Pfizer is a large reputable company that would not fake a trial.

The lower rate of US deaths prove the vaccines are working.

[cgbg]

Writing tips:

--Put the lead in the first paragraph. Summarize your argument there. If you have four points to make summarize each of them in ten words or less, with bullet points or similar.

--Point 1
--Point 2
--Point 3
--Point 4


--Then have a separate paragraph for each of your four points.

--Use short sentences that are easy to understand.

--Put the exhibits, charts, references in footnotes (at the end of your post)

The key to communication is not for you to talk or write, it is to get your reader to _understand_ what you said or wrote.

End of rant.

[monkeyshine]

As to mRNA technology, it is also my understanding it has been around for well over a decade and never found to be of any use. Holds a lot of promise in theory but so far (maybe) not in practice. It bothers me a lot this rush and oodles of money to push the vaccines and very little energy or money to study potential treatments. Vaccines won’t help people already infected.

As for “lab rats that survive” it is my understanding that the lab rats used in trials are almost always killed for research purposes at some point. Maybe you mean that some died from the experimental vaccines and some did not. But they eventually get examined for development of tumors and such.

I have heard about these stories of motor oil and tropical fruits testing positive but not sure how real that is. We’ve seen a lot of inconsistencies, poorly designed studies and corner cutting and ‘working assumptions’ the last year - hard to know if we are really comparing apples to apples. As you said there are many different ways to test. If it is true the more common tests are just looking for a specific genetic sequence then I suppose that it is possible for this sequence to exist on its own regardless of the presence of the virus. And would it hold that potentially a virus could mutate so it no longer expresses that exact same gene sequence? Or the inverse, that other viruses might mutate and show this same sequence?

[semimojo]

I think it’s reasonable to assume that vaccine trial participants were give the PCR ‘test’ repeatedly: at the start of the trial, after Dose 1, after Dose 2, and then routinely through the 4 or so weeks of monitoring following to see at what point they might supposedly contract (e.g., subject’s PCR ‘test’ positive 10 days after vaccine administration – too soon for vaccine to protect participant).

That's not necessarily a reasonable assumption and from what I know they didn't do routine PCR testing of the two populations at all.

As you posted, Cases of COVID‑19, starting 14 days after Dose 2, were defined as symptomatic COVID‑19 requiring positive RT-PCR result.... The person had to have Covid symptoms and if so the diagnosis was confirmed by the PCR test.

Many more people who got the placebo had symptoms than those who got the vaccine.

People were only tested if they had symptoms, so it's possible many people who got the vaccine contracted asymptomatic disease, but note the manufacturers don't make any claims about efficacy against that.

To the overall point about false positives the nearly perfect correlation between positive case counts, hospitalizations and deaths indicates the tests are very often right.

[House Atreides]

Your HYPERACTIVE ANTI-VAX JIHAD continues. So the vaccine trials used FAKE test results? So how did they know when to use false positive test results and show 95% difference between the trial participants who RECEIVED THE VACCINE VERSUS THOSE WHO RECEIVED THE PLACEBO?

By the way, may I assume you’re paid by the word and not by the scientific correctness of your jihad?

[DugwayDuke]

Over 500,000 dead.

[DesertRhino]

“The CDC not only banned the off-label use of these drugs during a time they declared an unprecedented medical emergency, they wouldn’t even award these drugs “Emergency Use Authorization” they would later grant their fake vaccines.”

If a therapy is approved for use against a disease, CDC cannot give emergency use authorization to an experimental vaccine. And THAT is why all drugs to treat the disease are mercilessly attacked.

[Diogenesis]

everybody wants to rule the world.

but THEY patented new ATrocity viruses/vaccines
[dual purpose] making them "GOLD" and powerful

[silverleaf]

Excellent article

[BeauBo]

The trials did not rely on PCR tests, (which you sometimes call PRC). So this whole post is not relevant. They are based on comparing those vaccinated against unvaccinated controls, for symptoms, hospitalization and death, as well as test results (which does include PCR tests, as well as antibody tests)

“Given that the CDC says samples of isolated Covid-19 virus has never been “available” to researchers, how can the vaccine trials prove the efficacy of the vaccines against the Covid-19 virus?”

From exposure to virus in the wild, like everyone else (including the control group).

Those vaccinated are dramatically less likely to develop COVID symptoms, be hospitalized or die - independent of PCR testing.

Those are the metrics of effectiveness.

[miserare]

Thanks for bringing this to the attention of the entire forum.

Fauci is an international criminal and should be prosecuted.

But that would happen only in a just society.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

BTTT

[Bayan]

The anti vaccine idiots need to go back to their basement and contemplate their navel, I have no desire to see this fabricated, nonsensical garbage every day.

[mom.mom]

Why the unapproved, unlicensed mRNA vaccine and not the old weaken virus style vaccine?

[WhattheDickens?]

ping

[GRRRRR]

I worked in Pharma for 38+ years.

The premise that anyone in manufacturing, quality and product development, medical and regulatory/ legal departments would knowingly create, approve and submit false data is an insult to the real people who do the work.

I know folks at Pfizer, worked with many of them for over twenty years.
We never cheated, lied or stole...

Because, our own families might be getting the drug products.

[David Chase]

The problem with a “May Have” post is this:

It can be used for anything and everything. For example;

Birdseye’s bag of steam-able Brussel Sprouts MAY HAVE tiny GPS trackers in them.

Your real parents MAY HAVE sold you to the people that raised you and you believe they’re your real parents.

Intergalactic travelers from the Zuhn solar system MAY HAVE voted in the 2020 election for Biden.

You did very good on this morning’s post, I was going to tell you. It was interesting. But a “May Have” post, well...........just more conspiracy.