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To: ransomnote

There are known problems with PCR Covid testing.

However Pfizer is a large reputable company that would not fake a trial.

The lower rate of US deaths prove the vaccines are working.


5 posted on 03/24/2021 10:51:00 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin
However Pfizer is a large reputable company that would not fake a trial.

How much are they paying you to say that?

10 posted on 03/24/2021 11:00:59 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Brian Griffin
The lower rate of US deaths prove the vaccines are working.

You can't make that assumption. There could be many reasons why deaths are declining such as earlier intervention and better treatment protocols. Deaths are a trailing indicator anyway it is the "worst and final resolution" of an active infection case. There are millions of infected out there who remain unresolved.

AFAIK from BoBeaux's daily stat threads, only about 12-14% of the population has been completely vaccinated and roughly an equal number received 1 of the 2 shots. This would mean some 70% of the population has not yet been vaccinated at all and yet the numbers of cases and deaths is way down (more than one would expect given the rate of vaccination). I am sure other factors are at play in the daily case/death counts besides the vaccines.

11 posted on 03/24/2021 11:01:23 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Brian Griffin
However Pfizer is a large reputable company that would not fake a trial.

"The climate scientists are reputable and they wouldn't fake their data".

"The electoral process is reputable, they would not fake the outcome".

"Bernie Madoff is reputable, he would not rip off his clients".

Hope that's enough to make my point, but just in case.

"The used care salesman is reputable, he wouldn't sell me a lemon".


14 posted on 03/24/2021 11:04:58 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Brian Griffin

“ The lower rate of US deaths prove the vaccines are working.”

There is a huge hole in the parking lot where I work. It is an elephant trap to stop elephants. We have never seen an elephant. It totally works.

The death rate was falling before the vaccines were widely administered.


17 posted on 03/24/2021 11:08:50 AM PDT by cyberstoic (I )
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To: Brian Griffin

Your faith in Corporate America is great. I have no faith.


26 posted on 03/24/2021 11:16:13 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Brian Griffin
However Pfizer is a large reputable company that would not fake a trial.

You know better than that.

I don't disagree with you that the vaccines certainly seem to be working...I have my second shot coming up soon, and I hope it helps rather than hurts.

But to suggest that a "reputable" company wouldn't fake results is to ignore breath-taking conjobs since the origin of trade.

27 posted on 03/24/2021 11:16:16 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Brian Griffin

Puhleeze, Mr. Gaslighter!

Anyone who Googles Pfizer Lawsuits, Pfizer scandals, Pfizer settlements, etc., will see that you are a big fat liar.


53 posted on 03/24/2021 12:06:20 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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Working? I doubt it, ALL virus outbreaks die out after running their course. It’s spring, normally the time. Absolutely NO evidence the shots ( “ vaccines ”) are causing immunity like a genuine vaccine does.


88 posted on 03/24/2021 3:10:11 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Brian Griffin

Merck is a large, reputable pharmaceutical company, too. https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/merck-manipulated-science-about-drug-vioxx

There is no way anyone knows absolutely what Pfizer (or any company) would or wouldn’t do. I have no knowledge or evidence of any wrongdoing, just pointing out that simply being a large, reputable company doesn’t make it immune to shady doings. The almighty dollar is a scheming temptress. FWIW, I’m not signing up for the shot just yet, but I am also not saying “never”.


112 posted on 03/24/2021 6:15:46 PM PDT by ZinGirl (Now a grandma ....can't afford a tagline :))
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