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To: Brian Griffin
However Pfizer is a large reputable company that would not fake a trial.

You know better than that.

I don't disagree with you that the vaccines certainly seem to be working...I have my second shot coming up soon, and I hope it helps rather than hurts.

But to suggest that a "reputable" company wouldn't fake results is to ignore breath-taking conjobs since the origin of trade.

27 posted on 03/24/2021 11:16:16 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

Pfizer is also the company that used eminent domain (after bribing local and state officials) to kick property owners off their land in New London, CT in the horrid Kelo decision of the Supreme Court.

Then, after kicking the folks off their property, they decided not to use it and sold it off to others.

Pfizer is scum.


29 posted on 03/24/2021 11:19:15 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Fightin Whitey; Brian Griffin

There are many ways to “fake” a trial. It doesn’t have to be intentional. Just poor design will do, or poor assumptions. Or poor controls. Unbalanced drug vs placebo arms. Lack of adherence to protocols. Garbage in garbage out type problems.

I am not saying the vaccines are bad, fake, dangerous, greatest thing since the wheel - no opinion. Two things bother me 1) they (NIH/CDC) bet the farm on vaccine development and that rush to judgement leaves room for a lot of errors and 2) they did not spend much money at all investigating potential treatments. They wrote billion dollar checks to develop NEW DRUGS and spent next to nothing to confirm what many small independent researchers were discovering about the biological action of the virus and how anti-virals (and/or anti-parasitics), minerals and vitamins COMBINED could help slow viral replication which then gives the body time to mount an effective immune response.

And what bothers me most is that they seem to have intentionally sabotaged #2 above (withdrawing emergency use, poo-pooing them in the media, even governors and pharmacy boards pulling medicines from the shelves and ratting out doctors who prescribe them). I’d argue that IF ivermectin or some other combination of drugs were shown to work in a large scale randomized study that they (NIH/CDC/Big Pharma) would have NEVER been able to develop or enroll or complete any vaccine trials at all. Anyone in a vaccine trial who came down with the virus would just take the pills and the trial data would be corrupted beyond repair. So IMO, they HAD TO put the kibosh on any research into off the shelf treatments in order to protect their large bet on vaccines.

Again, not saying anything good or bad about either, just thinking through the entire experience we all just went through.


42 posted on 03/24/2021 11:39:40 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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