Posted on 11/24/2020 6:31:31 AM PST by LibWhacker
Ceasar was the force that ended the Roman Republic.
Not something one should wish for.
It appears you have no problem embracing the fraud and lawlessness committed by democrat fascists in this election.
Yeah well. He might. But the Senate will just take out its daggers and stab him 32 times.
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But he wears a Kevlar vest...
I find it a bit scary that the author of this piece is advocating it all in the name of protecting the Constitution. How many different ways do you have to violate it before you protect it?
“ If Trump can’t prove in a court of law that their was fraud then he needs to concede.”
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WRT that courts thing you mentioned, you might wish to read this:
“The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed - where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; ***where courts have lost the courage to oppose***, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.” [emphasis added].
— Judge Alex Kozinski
We are NOT living in normal times, there’s a full-on revolution taking place right in front of our eyes, masquerading as a corrupt election. This election is, however, just a means to an end - the end being the effective destruction of our Constitution and Republic (though both will be kept, with appropriate reverence (in name only) being offered up to lull people into accepting the fair accompli. We will have 1- party government on a national level, our freedoms of speech, association and religion will be severely limited, gun rights gone, etc. If, in the face of immense evidence of fraud nothing can be done by our courts, then the justification for revolt against a tyrannical government is in the Declaration of Independence - the very Founders who set up our courts had recently finished such a revolt.
This would be treason and make Trump the fascist the left claims he is. We are a nation of laws. If Trump can’t prove in a court of law that their was fraud then he needs to concede.
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Rules for thee but not for me. If laws only work one way they aren’t laws and that bridge has been passed.
John Adam’s pointed out that our Constitution would only work for a moral people. Otherwise, there are enough holes in it to completely destroy its intended effects while keeping the words intact.
Do the Leftists seeking to stack the courts, admit states which likely will have only Dem Senators, who wish to ban guns while defunding the police and who wish to admit millions of immigrants and make them into instant citizens (to overwhelm the existing electorate), all the while cozying up to China and Iran, seem the least bit moral to you? The Constitution is not a suicide pact.
And of course that’s exactly where the lefts re-education/cleansing actions would begin. Solidify control of the area, action training, scouting for more hard core cadre shock troops as well as providing magnet for like minded yutes from outside.
They’ve ready made it clear that poloce stations are primary targets...just as in every other coup/revolution attempts of the past. Seize weapons, vehicles, reords, comms etc. New boss, lot harder than old boss.
Local media is already on their side
Corruption ended the Roman Republic.
Caesar was a symptom not the disease.
When Trump says so. There are people on this site that would applaud if Trump made himself dictator for life. Absolutely disgusting. I thought our side didn’t think like that. Our country is bigger than one man.
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The American people were just disenfranchise and had their vote suppressed is that not reason to enact the insurrection laws? No one said that he would be President for life.
“I find it a bit scary that the author....”
The author of this piece is advocating invoking the Insurrection Act.
Why does that scare you?
Lack of insurrection for one thing. Advocating that Trump should retain power without the courts or Congress for a period of time that he decides is another. I can't see any possible way that the President would agree to such a plot.
Ceasar was the blunt instrument that brought it down.
After Augustus’ 40yrs, despots ruled the empire. Their crimes against the Romans are well documented. 100’s of thousands were murdered through the years.
By fiat.
“ Ceasar was the force that ended the Roman Republic.
Not something one should wish for.”
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No one sane (and I include everyone here in that category) has, is it would wish for such a thing. But perhaps you should consider that the Roman Republic existed pretty much in name only at that point, and that Caesar merely exposed that fact by his actions. With what we know about the Deep State and it’s cooperation with the one world era, perhaps the same applies to our Republic? If an election can be so nakedly stolen, of what value is our Constitution (except as a fig leaf for those who actually plan to destroy it)?
If an election can be so nakedly stolen, of what value is our Constitution (except as a fig leaf for those who actually plan to destroy it)?
I agree with you. It would be the end of our constitutional government, and our constitution. We are in a minority here. There will be another election in 2024, the country won't melt in 4 years. Yes, damage may be done, but it won't be destroyed as this action would do.
The United States has elections to keep people from killing each other.. to avoid civil wars and revolutions ...
That is out the window if the franchise of millions is stolen.
The 2024 election, or any rigged election, is not the answer to disenfranchisement..
“I can’t see any possible way that the President would agree to such a plot.”
Failure to agree would be tantamount to conceding a loss. Agreeing that the 2020 election WAS fair and legal.
Failure to agree would be ignoring the right of over 70 million legal voters and disregarding the legal avenues afforded to him by the US Constitution.
“Lack of insurrection”?? You honestly believe the greatest act of treason against the United States does not define the very meaning of insurrection?
First, Caesar didn't destroy the Roman Republic. It had been dead for at least the most of the last century. Rome had it's upper class ruling. They were just like our useless ruling class. The person who really ended the republic was Caesar's nephew Octavius. In one sense he actually rebuilt the charade of the senate, just calling himself the “first citizen” of the state. But the Senate was dying slowly has having power and would really be one man rule.
We have developed the idea of an Imperial Presidency because the Congress could not act as the will of the people. Instead, they are more concerned about ingratiating themselves and staying in office. Over the last 50 years they have voted to cede more powers to the President. The same powers that are now potentially in President Trump's hands will be in the hands of a President Bitme.
The President's actions will undoubtedly result in civil war. It will be bloody. It will split families. It will cause hunger and disease. It will also result in our foreign adversaries taking advantage of our situation. This has happened before.
If Trump wins in the courts the President will certainly have to resort to these things to put down up rebellion. But remember what comes with that. There will be suspension of writ of habeus corpus. There will be incarceration without jury trial. There will be martial law. These are things that President Lincoln did during the War between the States. Many on here hate Lincoln for that. Will you cheer Trump for doing the same things that Lincoln did?
Remember, it is easy to open the bottle and let the genie out. It is another thing to get him back in. This pathway may have to be taken (i.e. leftist attempt at overthrow if Trump is vindicated in the courts) but we need to think long and hard before advocating for a suspension of the Constitution, no matter how righteous the cause we espouse.
If you think I am torn in this, you are right. I fear from my country, not matter what the course in 2021.
“There will be another election in 2024....”
Tell us something. What will be the point of another election in 2024. If, as we know, elections are a foregone conclusion based on Dominion software manipulations, then why vote?
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