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President Trump Gives Nancy Pelosi a Foretaste of the Utter Hell an Impeachment Trial Will Be for the Democrats
RedState ^ | December 5, 2019 | streiff

Posted on 12/05/2019 10:05:42 AM PST by sickoflibs

A little earlier today, Nancy Pelosi decided that more of the Schiff-show was not going to be helpful and she directed various House committees to proceed with drafting articles of impeachment against President Trump.

The White House issued its official response:

Stephanie Grisham ✔ @PressSec .@SpeakerPelosi & the Democrats should be ashamed. @realDonaldTrump has done nothing but lead our country - resulting in a booming economy, more jobs & a stronger military, to name just a few of his major accomplishments. 🇺🇸 We look forward to a fair trial in the Senate. 21.3K 9:13 AM - Dec 5, 2019

And President Trump had his own.

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump · 4h The Do Nothing Democrats had a historically bad day yesterday in the House. They have no Impeachment case and are demeaning our Country. But nothing matters to them, they have gone crazy. Therefore I say, if you are going to impeach me, do it now, fast, so we can have a fair....

Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump .....trial in the Senate, and so that our Country can get back to business. We will have Schiff, the Bidens, Pelosi and many more testify, and will reveal, for the first time, how corrupt our system really is. I was elected to “Clean the Swamp,” and that’s what I am doing! 80.8K 8:01 AM - Dec 5, 2019

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump · 2h The Do Nothing, Radical Left Democrats have just announced that they are going to seek to Impeach me over NOTHING. They already gave up on the ridiculous Mueller “stuff,” so now they hang their hats on two totally appropriate (perfect) phone calls with the Ukrainian President....

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump ....This will mean that the beyond important and seldom used act of Impeachment will be used routinely to attack future Presidents. That is not what our Founders had in mind. The good thing is that the Republicans have NEVER been more united. We will win! 35.7K 10:11 AM - Dec 5, 2019

It is pretty obvious that this hurried decision to move straight on to drafting articles of impeachment is a direct result of the issue being a non-seller basically everywhere. While is is giving the left a thrill up their whatever, it is locking in Republican support for Trump and moderates are seeing it as a distraction and a political hit on the President. Support for impeachment hit the high tide mark weeks ago and is slowly receding. This is not to say that it will ever go away but it will only be popular among Bulwark contributors and others who have a pathological hatred of President Trump.

The Democrats should tread warily here. Mitch McConnell is not going to take the easy way out and simply call a vote to dismiss the charges…though he could. He’s said he will go through with a trial. And McConnell will set the rules (the Chief Justice presides but the rules are made by the majority). The odds of him refusing to let the President call witnesses to demonstrate that his request of Ukraine President Zelensky was valid approach zero. The odds of Adam Schiff not being called if the President’s defense team wants it also approaches zero. Biden has already said he will not:

TheBlaze ✔ @theblaze Joe Biden says he will refuse to testify in Senate impeachment trial if called http://bit.ly/2Pdv6UD

That’s fine and that is what President Trump is hoping for.

As the left says, when they aren’t saying something completely different, this is a political, not a judicial process. The imagery of the President’s team claiming that this is all a sham and Democrats witnesses refusing to testify will make the case for dismissal in the most epic way possible.

If this goes to the Senate, neither McConnell or Trump have any interest in not discrediting the Democrats and the process. And it is difficult to see them passing up this opportunity.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: impeachment; senate; trump
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To: ImpBill

There is a lot of room in this boat, but I agree with you.

the rats are stupid. but I don’t think they are stupid enough to follow through.


61 posted on 12/05/2019 1:27:00 PM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Biden would have to testify. He’s the alleged “victim”.


62 posted on 12/05/2019 2:21:40 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; azishot; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; ..

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63 posted on 12/05/2019 5:14:12 PM PST by bitt (When the law enforcers turn out to be the law breakers, then we have totally upended the rule of law)
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To: sickoflibs

does she have to have a full House voter ?
If so, then I’m guessing she has the votes...


64 posted on 12/05/2019 5:25:14 PM PST by stylin19a ((2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever))
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To: sickoflibs
While is is giving the left a thrill up their whatever

Like up their nose, a high they haven't had since they did a couple of lines the night before.

65 posted on 12/05/2019 5:52:45 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: sickoflibs; bitt; ransomnote; little jeremiah; RitaOK; bagster; thinden; Jim Robinson
***If this goes to the Senate, neither McConnell or Trump have any interest in not discrediting the Democrats and the process. And it is difficult to see them passing up this opportunity***

This extreme puzzling action by Pelosi and the House 'rats raise two dangerous possible outcomes:

The move to impeach the President on almost baseless grounds serves to enslave future presidents to the whims of a political House majority -- IOW, eliminate the Constitutional separation of powers. Future presidents will decide policy with a fear of impeachment if they decide against the will of the House majority.

And number two;
Since the Dems appear to have no fear of consequences against them for their divisive attack on the Constitutional order, one is left to suspect that they have an ulterior tact to avoid legal or popular retribution -- IOW, do they have a plan to actually overthrow the Constitutional order?

Now is the time for all citizens to prepare to defend the Constitution and their God-given freedoms!
66 posted on 12/05/2019 7:44:19 PM PST by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: sickoflibs; bitt; ransomnote; little jeremiah; RitaOK; bagster; thinden; Jim Robinson
Note that Cong. Al Green said today that there is nothing to keep the House from continuing to impeach the President as many times as it deems necessary.

It is an attempt to enslave the presidential powers to obey the will of the House majority - i.e. the end of Constitutional order.

67 posted on 12/05/2019 7:54:02 PM PST by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: Williams
Like Ted Cruz?

I'd love to see him questioning Dems under oath.

68 posted on 12/05/2019 8:04:02 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
They're not Debbie Downers, they're ShareBlue and Cass Sunstein acolytes.

...and some RINOs.

69 posted on 12/05/2019 8:06:05 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Bob Ireland

They’re digging their own graves.


70 posted on 12/05/2019 8:06:45 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the vItolirtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: grey_whiskers

;)


71 posted on 12/05/2019 8:07:09 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: little jeremiah
***They’re digging their own graves***

You don't perceive the dangers here? Of course McConnell could attack these dangers head on... they must not be ignored! Al Green is ready to impeach the President monthly; that would turn our system of checks and balances on its head!

This impeachment farce must be dealt with in the harshest terms - even to citizens descending on Washington (peacefully) by the millions. We cannot become a parliamentary system of strict majority rule.

72 posted on 12/05/2019 8:33:59 PM PST by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: Bob Ireland

I am sure that the upcoming OIG report, followed by the completed investigations by Durham and Huber, will be so explosive that the stinking steaming pile of impeachment and its purveyors will be blown to smithereens. The impeachment purveyors, and a lot of other seriously bad guys will be crying to their lawyers, terrified and wetting their pants 24/7.

Why did the previous administration go to such criminal lenghts to try to oust Trump - before he was elected, until this very day?

To hid the terrible crimes they’ve been committing for years. The spying is the lid which will open up the can of worms, or for them, the giant can of whoop-a**.


73 posted on 12/05/2019 9:19:16 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the vItolirtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: sickoflibs

If this goes to the Senate>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Can’t see it happening myself.

Surely the Dems have enough native intelligence to realize that this would be their downfall, going like lemmings over a cliff of a Senate trial?

If they do go for a Senate Trial, it will become a debacle from which the Democrat party will not recover for a generation. One that the Dem party desperately needs to rid itself of the sour leftist pirogies now controlling the Dem party, which truly is a party of blue Dog people who have allowed the leftist take over, which they now realize was a huge mistake.

A Senate trial will result in the complete cleansing of the Dem party.

President Trump dares them to cross the line! He is the ultimate swamp cleaner!


74 posted on 12/06/2019 2:11:38 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: ImpBill
"I am still hanging way out here on my limb, with few others accompanying me. There will be no Senate Trial as the House will not vote for Impeachment. This will drag on for a couple more weeks and the House will then vote to Censure the President making the trial likelihood moot."

I think so too. I think the House will vote down the impeachment, which will help the Dems from swing districts get re-elected and get the House Dems off the hook for this impeachment mess without losing control of the press/dialog. Nancy can say she tried. Theater.

75 posted on 12/06/2019 4:39:27 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: sickoflibs

Thanks Chief. Choices every day.

DEPOPULATE them from the body politic. We’ve got to start somewhere before it gets crazy. READY - AIM - VOTE


76 posted on 12/06/2019 7:07:23 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Dick Bachert; All

That’s a great post in a thread of great posts. Thanks. Twisted psychopathetic taqiyya-talkin’ Nancy. A complete embarrassment to any government at any time in any place. In this fabulous republic? WTF? What’d they do...scape some crap off a sidewalk?


77 posted on 12/06/2019 7:15:48 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Fireone

I suspect whatever Obama was holding over Robert’s,trump has now.


78 posted on 12/08/2019 4:04:24 PM PST by rolling_stone (no justice no peace no epstein no justice)
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To: rolling_stone

I’m not so sure, that might be something the Deep State holds close to the vest. Can’t see them giving Trump that leverage.


79 posted on 12/08/2019 5:45:04 PM PST by Fireone (Build the gallows first, then the wall!)
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To: cableguymn
the rats are stupid. but I don’t think they are stupid enough to follow through.

The Dems are at V2 past the point of no return at

the end of the runway going over the cliff

with catastrophic engine failure

they've got no other choice

Enjoy the show

7

80 posted on 12/08/2019 5:56:04 PM PST by infool7 (When you have the Lord, nothing else is important and everything is fascinating!)
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