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Vanity: Who Won the Debate and Why (Not who You Wished Won) and Where Did Trump Miss
Self ^ | 10/20/16 | Jim Newell

Posted on 10/20/2016 8:40:12 AM PDT by Jim W N

Why do you think Trump won or not.

Where exactly did Trump land an effective blow and where did he miss some golden opportunities.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: debate; hillary; trump
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1 posted on 10/20/2016 8:40:12 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

Are we getting paid for this? :)


2 posted on 10/20/2016 8:41:25 AM PDT by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: dp0622

Monday Morning Quarterbacking


3 posted on 10/20/2016 8:44:41 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (When the MSM wants your opinion, they will give it to you)
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To: Jim 0216

I can’t believe some of the fat, easy, slow pitches right down the middle that Trump didn’t swing at. Clinton opposed Heller, but supports an individual right to bear arms? Clinton’s one issue where she thinks government has no say is preventing children from being murdered by late-term abortion? And when she complained about Putin stealing e-mails, how did he not suggest maybe she shouldn’t use a server in a bathroom closet, or leave her cell phones lying around? He seemed barely alive for the first few rounds.

When he woke up, his facial expressions were brilliant. He nodded at attacks that had some basis in legitimate differences of opinion, so when he smirked or rolled his eyes or shook his head at lies, it was as effective as interrupting her.

What’s very encouraging this morning is that I think her gaffes were so obvious that he didn’t even need to pull the trigger. He won the debates the first two times, but got destroyed in the post-debate social media and fact-checking. This time, all the buzz is about her stupid flubs and silly lies.


4 posted on 10/20/2016 8:46:00 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Jim 0216

I thought it was mostly a draw, Trump did a little bit better.

He could have talked more about Clinton Foundation and pay for play and corruption. When HRC was talking about the Russians, he could have said “YOU made it so easy to steal out information!”


5 posted on 10/20/2016 8:47:51 AM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: dangus
Trump missed some great opportunities; Heller, Putin uranium sale and CF giving 90% to charity.

But those are details that political junkies recognize and even if they were driven home it would not change committed voter's minds.

I think he won in the undecided demographic.

6 posted on 10/20/2016 8:49:10 AM PDT by Baynative (Freedom; the dream of every human, the birth right of every American.)
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To: dp0622

Nope, just curious. I couldn’t bring myself to watch the proceedings last night. Watched the NLCS instead. So I wanted to see what others thought, to see if I could watch it later without gagging. Also thought it might be an interesting discussion.


7 posted on 10/20/2016 8:49:38 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

You first?


8 posted on 10/20/2016 8:50:08 AM PDT by Williams (The (republican) party is over.)
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To: dp0622

This is just worrisome self flagellation that produces nothing substantive.

F-A-I-T-H. Faith in our stand, faith in our candidate, faith in the faults of those arrayed against us will out.

The losers that will be know they will lose and the only thing they can do now is to instill some sense apprehension, anxiety of fear of “what did we do wrong? what could we (he) have done?” Ad nauseam.

There are about 20 days left until the big reckoning and all our anxieties will be met and cemented.

If nothing here, said or done, or posited in hand wringing angst changes your opinion, the disregard it like a gnat buzzing around your ears on a summer’s eve.

Faith says that it will happen. Faith says that we will wind and faith says that the opposing ghouls have precious little time left in their reign. He WIll win.


9 posted on 10/20/2016 8:50:40 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Jim 0216

You first?


10 posted on 10/20/2016 8:51:18 AM PDT by Williams (The (republican) party is over.)
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To: Jim 0216

I thought pointing out that we now have proof the violence at his rallies was coordinated by her campaign in order to slander him and his supporters was very effective.


11 posted on 10/20/2016 8:51:24 AM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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IDIOT TRUMP missed on opportunity to hit Hillary on the 20% of Uranium she OK'd to Russia when Hillary associated Putin with TRUMP & the leaks!!!

I kept tweeting him, Kellyanne & his Family about it, I guess he doesn't read his notifications!!!

12 posted on 10/20/2016 8:52:09 AM PDT by KavMan
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To: Jim 0216

Trump won the debate. Clinton, once again, looked overly scripted, robotic, and engaged in a filibuster when asked about the Clinton Foundation pay for play operation. When asked about her support for “open borders” she ridiculously claimed it was open borders for electricity and other energy only, that ranks right up there with her assertion that her lies were because of Lincoln.

When Clinton kept bringing up Putin, Trump should have hammered her hard on the selling of 20 percent of our uranium to the Russians that she approved of, and got a big Foundation donation for, and the fact that Podesta has strong ties to Russian interests.

After she answered the questions, Trump should have reminded everyone that she has a Public and a Private position on every issue, so you can’t believe anything she says.


13 posted on 10/20/2016 8:52:28 AM PDT by euram
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To: dangus

What were her biggest stupid flubs/lies? I’ll look for them if/when I decide to watch this thing.


14 posted on 10/20/2016 8:53:04 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

Hillary definitely stumbled badly when Chris Wallace started asking about the Clinton Foundation donors and the pay to play. She tried to ramble off about AIDS in Africa, but the moderator even pointed out she was refusing to answer the question, and she definitely seemed flustered by someone daring to ask her even a single tough question.


15 posted on 10/20/2016 8:53:40 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: MNDude
two home-runs he missed:
1) Clinton saying her charity gives 90% to causes- it's been proven to be more like 5%

2) When she said something about his “mistreatment of women” he could have simply said “what about your husbands RAPES and ASSAULTS” There was a brand new victim who came out yesterday.

At the very end when they did what amounted to a ‘closing statement’ I kept picturing (and hoping) Trump would say what Joe Pesci did in the courtroom scene in the movie ‘My cousin Vinny’: “Everything she said said, is bullshit”

16 posted on 10/20/2016 8:54:18 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump is running against EVERYONE. The Democrats, The Media, and the establishment GOP)
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To: Williams

I couldn’t bring myself to watch the proceedings last night. Watched the NLCS instead. So I wanted to see what others thought, to see if I could watch it later without gagging. And I thought this might be an interesting discussion.


17 posted on 10/20/2016 8:54:19 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: dangus
Benghazi
18 posted on 10/20/2016 8:54:38 AM PDT by streetsmart (I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: Jim 0216

How do you debate a liar who is a genius at deception and the moderator treats her as a respected “debator”? Lets not call it a debate and we can start at a level playing field to determine who one. Trump told the truth, that’s a winner everytime.


19 posted on 10/20/2016 8:54:45 AM PDT by georgiegirl (Count me in the half that's in the Deplorable Basket)
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To: Jim 0216

If not for two self-inflicted wounds, Trump would have won by a knockout. As it is, he won on points.

1.) His bombastic, “No body respects women more than I do,” fell flat.

2.) He should have phrased the “Accept the outcome of the election” in terms of “If we see signs of election fraud we will fight to correct the injustice the way Al Gore fought in 2000.” (I can’t believe he wasn’t ready for that question.)

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The positives:

1.)Trump hit on all the issues the Rust Belt battleground states are concerned with.

2.) Hillary’s creepy evil smile did not help her.


20 posted on 10/20/2016 8:55:45 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity?)
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