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In crucial Pennsylvania, Hillary Clinton has a very serious “Bell Weather County” problem
The Coach's Team ^ | 6/27/16 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 06/27/2016 9:15:56 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

Embedded in a lengthy article appearing in Politico Magazine that clearly laid out the deep trouble Hillary Clinton is in as she tries to win over voters in Pennsylvania, was a warning that it is Donald Trump who is in trouble in the Keystone State.

Not surprisingly “these warning words of wisdom” came from the director for the Center of Opinion Research at Franklin & Marshall College in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, who said, “There just aren’t enough rural voters to put him over the top. In this state, a Republican has got to appeal to moderate Republicans and Republican voters in the southeast part of the state, who are mostly educated and mostly affluent. And I don’t know that we’re seeing that sort of appeal from Trump.” Would we expect any other sort of analysis from a college faculty member?

He pointed out Barack Obama won Pennsylvania while carrying just 12 of the State’s 67 counties implying Trump couldn’t do better than the hapless Mitt Romney. Had he paid attention to the survey done in Luzerne County Pennsylvania showing that Trump is leading by 17 points he might have rethought his statement. But of course that wouldn’t fit his preconceived narrative of protecting the Democrat.

In the last three presidential elections, Luzerne has tracked very closely to the overall statewide vote. Luzerne’s vote was a virtual mirror of the state as a whole. The average differential between Luzerne’s vote and the statewide numbers over this period has been approximately one percentage point. As Luzerne votes, so goes Pennsylvania.

More than this, a dispassionate review of the numbers shows more math problems...

(Excerpt) Read more at thecoachsteam.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2016election; democrats; donaldtrump; polls
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1 posted on 06/27/2016 9:15:56 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

That’s “wether” or “wedder” as in sheep; not “weather”. The “bell wether” is the lead sheep that wears the bell. Manage it and the others follow.


2 posted on 06/27/2016 9:20:27 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Purely anecdotal information from the philly ‘burbs:

Cruz, Bernie, and Clinton signs were everywhere during the primary. I did not see a single Trump sign.

Regardless, he carried my district handily.

I suspect people have changed their public behavior due to political correctness, but in the privacy of the voting booth they will back our guy.


3 posted on 06/27/2016 9:21:51 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

He carried the republican primary in your district. Not the same thing.


4 posted on 06/27/2016 9:27:08 AM PDT by Williams (If Trump is not the nominee ... The party's over.)
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To: Paine in the Neck
“Bellwether” is also one word.
5 posted on 06/27/2016 9:28:41 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (I'm not a smug know-it-all; I just want you to experience epistemological closure.)
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To: ConservativeWarrior
I did not see a single Trump sign.

The few that I did see disappeared soon after being deployed. I can't say whether it was Cruz people or Rats who were getting them. Either is possible.

6 posted on 06/27/2016 9:33:57 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hey now baby, get into my big black car, I just want to show you what my politics are.)
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To: ConservativeWarrior
Philadelphia... Will these guys come back to support HRC, or was it just a Barry thing?
7 posted on 06/27/2016 9:34:13 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: ConservativeWarrior

Political correctness will also cause folks to lie to pollsters, particularly claiming they are undecided when in fact they will vote for Trump.

If Hillary gets to 50% then I would worry, but as long as the undecideds remain a high number Trump is fine.


8 posted on 06/27/2016 9:38:57 AM PDT by cgbg (Epistemology is not a spectator sport.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

We hold our breath every four years for pennsyvania and fail every time. The state has a ton of Puerto Ricans and illegals that have arrived in the state the last twenty years.


9 posted on 06/27/2016 9:41:29 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Fresh Wind

I’ve never seen a Trump sign (I’m in Kansas). Election season hasn’t really ramped up here yet. Yes, we had a primary...and I recall hearing a few Bernie ads and Cruz ads on the radio. To my knowledge, nobody spent money on TV ads. A guy in line to vote had a Hillary!...(for prison) shirt, which was nice.

And now we sit and wait, while the swing states get bombarded.

I’ve seen a couple of Hillary bumper stickers, but that’s it.


10 posted on 06/27/2016 9:41:45 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: ConservativeWarrior

Trump won every county in Pennsylvania in the primary. His Real Clear Politics poll average was 48.3, but he won the primary with 58.1 percent of the vote. He won every demographic. If you look at the scale of many of Trump’s victories, you will notice that he won numerous states by winning every single county, and I’m not talking about the states where he ran as the only active candidate. So, there is definitely something going on, either it’s a grassroots rebellion or something more organized.


11 posted on 06/27/2016 9:51:03 AM PDT by euram
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You will not see a lot of Trump signs or bumper stickers because that is just begging for theft, vandalizing, and outright destruction from our super tolerant brethren.


12 posted on 06/27/2016 9:58:20 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Some other interesting facts about Luzerne County:

  1. Site of the July 3, 1778 Battle of Wyoming, a one-sided affair in which British regulars, Tories and their Iroquois Allies killed over 340 regulars, local militia and settlers, many after they surrendered.
  2. GOP has only 3 of 13 city council seats in Wilkes-Barre, the county seat. It has two of six state house districts and two of four state senate districts.
  3. County is near evenly split between two U.S. House districts, that of the 11th of Lou Barletta (R–Hazleton) and 17th of Matthew Cartwright (D–Moosic).
  4. Luzerne County is the only county in the United States with a plurality of citizens reporting Polish (22%) as their primary ancestry.
  5. Registered Democrats (Pennsylvania is a closed primary state) outnumber registered Republicans by 59% to 32%.
  6. Obama carried the country 51.5% to 46.7% in 2012 and 53.3% to 45% in 2008, almost a mirror of the Commonwealth margins of 52% to 46.6% in 2012 and 52.7% to 45.6% in 2008.

13 posted on 06/27/2016 10:03:00 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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The territory of Wyoming (now the state of Wyoming) was named after the Wyoming massacre. The congressman who first proposed the name was a Pennsylvania native. There were several other names proposed but that one won out.


14 posted on 06/27/2016 10:22:54 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Thanks for adding that factoid. FWIW, I was born in the Great State of Wyoming, which is arguably the best run State in the Union.


15 posted on 06/27/2016 10:28:41 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Philadelphia will give her Pennsylvania.


16 posted on 06/27/2016 10:29:46 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Nawwww...she’ll get the same Philly precincts that voted 110% for Zerohissef and no votes for Mittens.

Like Zerohissef she don’t need to win the state just key precincts within the states...like he did in ohio...

We need poll watchers. Big time.


17 posted on 06/27/2016 10:30:02 AM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: Vigilanteman
According to the Wikipedia article on the Battle of Wyoming, Thomas Campbell published a poem on the massacre, "Gertrude of Wyoming," in 1809, which helped keep the memory of the massacre alive.

One of the other names proposed was Lincoln, but that was rejected in part because till then no state had been named for a President (and they expected that the territorial name would be retained when it became a state). Lincoln was also proposed at one point as a name for what became North Dakota.

18 posted on 06/27/2016 10:35:56 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Oldpuppymax

I was just in Philly over the weekend. What an absolute sh!thole.


19 posted on 06/27/2016 11:04:45 AM PDT by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny. The America you knew is gone. Denial serves no purpose.)
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To: napscoordinator

A lot of those Puerto Ricans are actually Dominicans. They pretend to be Ricans so as not to be deported. They carry fake PR documents.

This is why the territory of Puerto Rico has nullified all PR birth certificates going back 100 years. If you were born in Puerto Rico prior to 2010, then you MUST re-register for a new birth certificate.

http://portal.ct.gov/Puerto_Ricos_New_Birth_Certificate_Law/

Allentown also has a very large Syrian and Lebanese population. Many of them (40%-45%) actually vote Republican.


20 posted on 06/27/2016 11:15:22 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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