Posted on 02/04/2015 9:43:28 AM PST by raptor22
ulture: An unlikely issue has entered the infant 2016 presidential campaign: Vaccines and required vaccinations. Let's hope the fact there's no scientific link to autism or anything else isn't lost in the political fray.
Candidates will often look for an edge over their opponents. Thus, both New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky recently suggested that, while vaccinations are good, forcing parents to vaccinate their children might be too much.
We believe vaccines are safe and should be routine, but concern about parents' rights is not unreasonable. What really gripes us, however, is listening to the media make this out to be an issue dreamed up by anti-science, right-wing kooks. Far from it.
The issue has been pushed in recent years almost entirely by the left. Hollywood progressives and others in the media (see editorial, below) have promoted the idea that vaccines have possible nasty effects, such as autism, and that they're reason to keep kids from being vaccinated.
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For Pete’s Sake OBAMA said that he opposed the vaccines because they might cause autism, even though his daughters were vaccinated.
JUNK SCIENCE PING
In addition, there is just as much good and hard science for vaccines causing autism as there is for CO2 causing global warming. Which is why the left has been all over this issue.
All you have to do is look at old cemetery records....and one becomes grateful for the measles vaccine.
The Left believes as well some parts of the nutty libertarian right, that we have a duty to get sick and die.
And these are same folks who lecture us the science surrounding climate change is “settled.” No kidding!
Vaccination is the greatest single invention of mankind - all the diseases we used to get we no longer have because they’re completely preventable.
It stands to reason that some people want to take us back to the Dark Ages. Go figure.
BS
Cite one reputable study other than that widely-discredited and unreproducible Lancet article.
I see the Flat Earth Society is out in force...
I’m all for vaccines. All my kids were vaccinated.
But the question is, who owns your kids, you or some government functionary.
With money to be made on any new vaccine that becomes mandatory, the nexus between law and money can’t be ignored. I thought about that when they were trying to make the papilloma virus vaccine mandatory.
Yup and most things I have seen is that it is not the vaccines themselves that are bad, but the doctors and medical establishment that are pushing MULTIPLE vaccinations at ONCE, when they should be spacing them out in order to give the body a chance to recover after each one.
And also it may not the dead/attenuated virus in the vaccine that cause problems but the other chemicals and agents put in the vaccine to stimulate the immnune system to react to the weakened virus more agressively.
I have a personal experience that woke me up to this, I got a tetnus booster that made me sick as hell this last year, severe flu like symptoms for almost a month! I was so sick that I had to back into the doctor’s office several days later after the shot and at first the doctors ran every damned test they could think of to try to pin it on somethign else and had to admit after all the results were back that it was a reaction to the shot. This got me to start looking up on this sort of thing since it was the first time i had ever had an reaqction to a shot.
I chose to not vaccinate my kids and my daughter has done the same.
To me, however, this issue is more about illegal immigrants than it is vaccinating children. If we didn’t have the schools full of immigrants from goodness knows where, without having been through the rigors of passing clean bill of health tests, we wouldn’t have a problem. We chose to home school as well, in order to avoid problems.
Great,the issue should be framed,you wont need to subject your children to vaccines if you vote Republican because they wont allow THOUSANDS of illegal into the country with exotic diseases,some of which have been official eradicated since 2000 like measles,and entro virus68.like the democrats
Reading comprehension is your friend.
Try finishing the rest of that sentence the previous poster wrote.
I can’t wait til they come out with the ebola vaccine.
No need to bleed to death from a nasty bug.
The old saying comes to mind: “an ounce of prevention is a worth a pound of cure.”
I will line up should it appear to get my shot.
Me too, especially if I decide to travel.
This is mostly true; the anti-vaccination cult is largely made up of left-wing elites.
However, there are some InfoWars/Organic Food/Orthorexia-types on the right (and on FR) that are part of it too. It seems to appeal to all colors of the political spectrum, even if its leaders are agents of the left.
this scientist has serious issues with vaccines. The FDA standards for establish safety in vaccines and combinations of vaccines is for shit.
How do you have the FDA “Office of Safety” having to have their door banged down by angry parents to wake up and realize they had approved such an overwhelming burden of vaccinations such that infants were exposed to mercury levels equivalent to what is allowed for a 180 pound man? A level, by the way, which was twice as high as what the EPA considered a safe level.
That’s just for openers. Flu vaccines really are a separate subject, but the FDA again leaves the public open to incredible levels of harm. No clinical trials to speak of, and the CDC is quite open about how they manipulate the data. Plus you have numbers staring you in the face from which you can only draw obvious conclusions which they make a point of avoiding. It really is remarkable. The CDC is a totally corrupt, politicized, organized cesspool that no longer serves the public interest. There is published testimony from a CDC meeting in 1999 where they acknowledged the dangers of mercury and the decision to cover it up. It’s there for you to read.
PING my ass. The system of surveillance is so bad, that only the very worst harm is caught. It’s outrageous.
p.s. The Amish do not vaccinate and there is not one case of autism among them.
Are you aware that several billion dollars have been awarded in the vaccine court to plaintiffs. Point? Vaccines do cause harm, and enough harm
So you’re saying that CO2 provably *does* cause “Global Warming”?
Then I call BS; you cite one reputable study other than the widely-discredited IPCC/HadCrut/NASA/NOAA bilge.
Or did you just completely misread the original statement?
I'm stealing this as you've hit the nail on the head.
Vaccination is the greatest single invention of mankind - all the diseases we used to get we no longer have because they’re completely preventable.
I've been saying the same thing; the eradication of diseases that killed hundreds of millions of people through vaccination is one of the triumphs of mankind. They're a gift from God as much as any modern technology or achievement.
That's just on the health side. — More disconcerting is the governance side (i.e. forcing people to take vaccines) because that destroys the dignity of the human being as a person:
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”
― C.S. Lewis
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