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The surprising ages of the Founding Fathers on July 4, 1776
kottke.org ^ | August 13, 2013

Posted on 07/06/2014 8:35:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

For the Journal of the American Revolution, Todd Andrlik compiled a list of the ages of the key participants in the Revolutionary War as of July 4, 1776. Many of them were surprisingly young:

Marquis de Lafayette, 18

James Monroe, 18

Gilbert Stuart, 20

Aaron Burr, 20

Alexander Hamilton, 21

Betsy Ross, 24

James Madison, 25

This is kind of blowing my mind...because of the compression of history, I'd always assumed all these people were around the same age. But in thinking about it, all startups need young people...Hamilton, Lafayette, and Burr were perhaps the Gates, Jobs, and Zuckerberg of the War. Some more ages, just for reference:

Thomas Jefferson, 33

John Adams, 40

Paul Revere, 41

George Washington, 44

Samuel Adams, 53

The oldest prominent participant in the Revolution, by a wide margin, was Benjamin Franklin, who was 70 years old on July 4, 1776. Franklin was a full two generations removed from the likes of Madison and Hamilton. But the oldest participant in the war was Samuel Whittemore, who fought in an early skirmish at the age of 80. I'll let Wikipedia take it from here:

Whittemore was in his fields when he spotted an approaching British relief brigade under Earl Percy, sent to assist the retreat. Whittemore loaded his musket and ambushed the British from behind a nearby stone wall, killing one soldier. He then drew his dueling pistols and killed a grenadier and mortally wounded a second. By the time Whittemore had fired his third shot, a British detachment reached his position; Whittemore drew his sword and attacked. He was shot in the face, bayoneted thirteen times, and left for dead in a pool of blood. He was found alive, trying to load his musket to fight again. He was taken to Dr. Cotton Tufts of Medford, who perceived no hope for his survival. However, Whittemore lived another 18 years until dying of natural causes at the age of 98.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Reference
KEYWORDS: foundingfathers; g42; godsgravesglyphs; history; revolution; revolutionarywar; samuelwhittemore; thegeneral; therevolution
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whitmore is frickin’ AWESOME!!

God bless him! Like another poster said-—we need men like him today!

Never again will I ever think I’m “too old” to take on the likes of the scum that are tearing our country down today.

Inspired!


21 posted on 07/06/2014 9:51:52 PM PDT by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: Thorliveshere

Sorry, so excited, I misspelled Whittemore.


22 posted on 07/06/2014 9:52:23 PM PDT by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; GeronL; Slings and Arrows

23 posted on 07/06/2014 10:10:30 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: madison10

Because young people their age today act like morons.


24 posted on 07/06/2014 10:14:14 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The desire for freedom knows no age. Hamilton was a federalist through and through and should the stupidity of youth


25 posted on 07/06/2014 10:23:07 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: madison10

Why did I think they were all over 45?


Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” calls for “freezing and defining” the enemy. Those who hate our country have been allowed to paint false pictures.

We need to spread the truth. Shine a light so the cockroaches run back into the darkness.


26 posted on 07/06/2014 10:25:25 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: madison10
I had no idea! Why did I think they were all over 45? They were young upstarts. :) Brave, young upstarts.

Same thing for Jesus and the Apostles.

Jesus was 30 when he began His mission. Most of the Apostles were under 30. I think Peter was a little older, but not much.

Mary was 15 when she was visited by the angel Gabriel.

27 posted on 07/06/2014 10:39:22 PM PDT by Slyfox (When progressives ignore moral parameters, they also lose the natural gift of common sense.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This shows how accomplished people can be without television.


28 posted on 07/06/2014 10:39:43 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Anitius Severinus Boethius
Despite what you may have heard, he didn’t write it by himself.

Despite what you may have heard, yes, he did. The only real changes were things removed, like his "vehement Phillipic against negro slavery." There was only one significant addition, which was Lee's resolution: That these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, Free and Independent States.

Jefferson wrote the Declaration. Period.

29 posted on 07/06/2014 10:49:38 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

today, people are still considered ‘children’ until they are 26


30 posted on 07/06/2014 10:49:59 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: FredZarguna

I’ll tell that to Ben and John.


31 posted on 07/06/2014 10:58:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Frickin Americans.

Take a lickin and keep on tickin....


32 posted on 07/06/2014 11:13:18 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go ahead and tell them. They didn’t make anything but very slight corrections, and they did not change the language. Please feel free to cite just ONE reputable historian who supports your contention.


33 posted on 07/06/2014 11:20:16 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: FredZarguna

I’m not arguing, I’m just going by my recollections from various and sundry history texts and other books I’ve read since I was 5 years old.


34 posted on 07/06/2014 11:22:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Anitius Severinus Boethius

While Madison was a key player on the committee drafting The Constitution, he was most influential in the drafting and revision, getting to the final document.

More importantly, he alone drafted The Bill of Rights, ensuring each man was treated equally under the law and ensuring the injuries suffered under the King, the Parliament and henchmen could never have any imprimatur and excuse for abuse of God given rights.


35 posted on 07/06/2014 11:22:32 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's what John has to say in his own words:

I was delighted with its high tone and the flights of oratory with which it abounded, especially that concerning Negro slavery, which, though I knew his Southern brethren would never suffer to pass in Congress, I certainly never would oppose. There were other expressions which I would not have inserted if I had drawn it up, particularly that which called the King tyrant. I thought this too personal, for I never believed George to be a tyrant in disposition and in nature; I always believed him to be deceived by his courtiers on both sides of the Atlantic, and in his official capacity, only, cruel. I thought the expression too passionate, and too much like scolding, for so grave and solemn a document; but as Franklin and Sherman were to inspect it afterwards, I thought it would not become me to strike it out. I consented to report it, and do not now remember that I made or suggested a single alteration.

36 posted on 07/06/2014 11:26:41 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's what John says about Ben and the rest of the committee:

We reported it to the committee of five. It was read, and I do not remember that Franklin or Sherman criticized anything. We were all in haste. Congress was impatient, and the instrument was reported, as I believe, in Jefferson's handwriting, as he first drew it.

37 posted on 07/06/2014 11:28:46 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: FredZarguna
Jefferson began his work on June 11 and toiled in seclusion writing a number of drafts. After presenting his final draft, the committee further revised the document and submitted it to the Continental Congress on June 28.

Who wrote the Declaration of Independence?

Although we know Thomas Jefferson as the true author, the Second Continental Congress initially appointed five people to draw up a declaration. The committee included Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Roger Sherman, Robert Livingston and Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson was then given the task of writing a draft for the Declaration of Independence, which from June 11 to June 28 he worked on. Before he presented the Declaration to the Continental Congress, he showed it to John Adams and Benjamin Franklin; they made revisions. He presented the draft to Congress on July 1, 1776 and more revisions were made. On the fourth of July the delegates met in what we know today as Independence Hall, but back then was known as the Pennsylvania State House, and approved the Declaration. John Hancock, the President of the Continental Congress signed the declaration along with Charles Thomson and it was sent to John Dunlap’s print shop for printing.

38 posted on 07/06/2014 11:37:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Bigg Red

mark


39 posted on 07/06/2014 11:42:51 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Read what Adams wrote. Neither he nor Franklin made any revisions.

Jefferson's draft as it appeared when it was reported out of committee still exists. The committee did not revise the document, just as Adams reported.

The Congress did NOT revise the document except exactly as I have told you. They removed parts, and they added nothing except Lee's Resolution.

Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence ENTIRELY ON HIS OWN. The Congress removed some parts, largely for political reasons. An editor is not an author.

You have been corrected, by one of the original committee members in his own words, and if you still think some hack grade-school book you read when you were a kid knows more than John Adams -- who claimed he added nothing and took nothing out, nor did Franklin nor Sherman -- or you think your hack historian knows more about it than Thomas Jefferson who claimed authorship -- and whose claims to authorship have never been challenged by any serious historian, you may remain in your ignorance.

40 posted on 07/06/2014 11:57:07 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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