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EXPLAINED: Why Texas will Secede from Union
YouTube ^ | 17 November 2013 | Christopher Greene

Posted on 12/11/2013 6:13:05 PM PST by Windflier

Longtime YouTube political poster, Christopher Greene, makes a strong case for why the state of Texas will secede from the union.


TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: cwii; cwiiping; secession; texas
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To: catfish1957

This is so typical of Texans. Whine, whine whine. You don’t like this venue? Start your own Texas Only chat site.

It’s probably out there, you’re just too stupid to find it.


121 posted on 12/11/2013 8:33:40 PM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

“Well do it. You’re all hat, no cattle.”

We won’t do unless it is necessary to save ourselves. That saying of yours is worn out and boring. The state of Texas has more cattle than any other state. I don’t own them and never have. I do have red cowboy boots made in Texas and own Texas land/house free of a mortgage. I was born here 80 years ago. I have worked in Texas politics and helped write a law that determines how votes are counted in every county in this state. You don’t need cattle to contribute to the building of this state to keep it free.


122 posted on 12/11/2013 8:41:22 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Windflier

There is an interesting dynamic here. The more rabid liberals may just want to rid the USA of Texas.

Doing so would virtually guarantee the DNC control of the federal government for many election cycles.

Conservatives would move to Texas, and the immediate loss of congressional seats and electoral college votes would give the liberals huge gains.


123 posted on 12/11/2013 8:45:59 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Marcella

God bless you sir. It’s not our fault. You did your best. Be assured God is in control.


124 posted on 12/11/2013 8:47:53 PM PST by DManA
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To: donmeaker

“Secession by state action is not valid..”

From your comment, I guess the Colonies had permission from Great Britain before they headed to North America. Is that right?


125 posted on 12/11/2013 8:48:42 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: WildHighlander57; Marcella; Windflier

I’ve met quite a few conservatives who have moved here in the last several years from northeastern liberal states and California, and they love it. They say it feels like home, as in their true conservative mindset type of home, whereas their home state felt like they were in an alien country.(well, aside from the weather.)

A few years ago it would have broken my heart to think Texas might secede, even though I saw it might be necessary to escape from total communistic tyranny. Today, it wouldn’t make me sad as it feels like the country I knew is gone. Young people barely know and love the history of our country, they’ve been taught to be ashamed of it, and have the country thinks its okay to enslave the other half.

My hope would be if Texas ever secedes, and one day other states follow, is that sometime in the future, we might be able to re-form the United States (while correcting some of the things that have gone wrong the last 100 years.)

If not secession, then the Convention of States is another possibility for returning most of the powers to the states that rightly belong there.


126 posted on 12/11/2013 8:50:59 PM PST by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: Marcella

GOD BLESS TEXAS!


127 posted on 12/11/2013 8:53:10 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Rembrandt

“I guess the Colonies had permission from Great Britain before they headed to North America. Is that right?”

Actually, if you read about what happened to them as they were preparing to leave England, remember these were religious people, England was glad to get rid of them, those trouble making religious kooks. Christians built this country and it flourished but the tide is turning now and Christians are once again called religious kooks and Hussein crushes Christians when he can.


128 posted on 12/11/2013 9:02:35 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: DManA
This is so typical of Texans. Whine, whine whine. ....you’re just too stupid to find it.

Damn, I was so close .... I knew you had to be from some libtard blue-flag state, and I was right. Minnesota's about as lame as America gets, excepting only Taxachusetts and Noo Joizy. I understand people with Texas tags get their cars keyed just for their license plates up there. Any truth to that? (He said, knowing it's true.)

Why don't you guys just "do it" ..... leave the Union and go suck up to Canada? Maybe they'll give you a beer.

129 posted on 12/11/2013 9:03:06 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

You’re so ignorant. You know nothing about me or my state. I’d be happy to educate your about us.


130 posted on 12/11/2013 9:06:47 PM PST by DManA
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To: donmeaker
Yeah. "You can't leave because WE say so."

Thank God the Founders didn't listen to that.

131 posted on 12/11/2013 9:08:33 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: greeneyes

“GOD BLESS TEXAS!”

We will do our best to deserve that blessing. I know most of our elected state officials, had some kind of interaction with them or know their background, and I know they are true Christians. Actually as I think about it, I think there is only one, Railroad Commissioner, whose background I don’t know. All state elected offices are filled with Republicans, no Democrats.


132 posted on 12/11/2013 9:13:29 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella; Windflier
A Silent Chinese Invasion & Disarmament of America is Taking Place

If this is true, just another reason that we need to establish redoubts of liberty and conservatism to regroup and retrain our youth in Christianity, moral courage, and liberty. Places where we can defend ourselves rather than just going down with the immoral, perverted ship of state that our country has become.

133 posted on 12/11/2013 9:22:21 PM PST by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: Windflier

You guys are so full of crap. What’s holding you back.Do it. You don’t have the guts.


134 posted on 12/11/2013 9:42:25 PM PST by DManA
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To: Windflier

As I’ve stated in previous threads on this topic, I already regard myself a Texan first, an American second. America has become something I don’t even recognize anymore... a government that is becoming a corrupt, one-party banana republic, and a culture that is such a noxious, degenerate sewer. It’s rendering all these discussions about politics and elections rather pointless and moot.

With the Obama-voting blue-states embracing such deviancy as fag marriage, I’d be more than happy to sever connections. A country that has sunk to such depths is a republic I have increasinly little interest in preserving.


135 posted on 12/11/2013 9:49:08 PM PST by greene66
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To: Texas Fossil; moneyrunner; Oldeconomybuyer; blam; IBD editorial writer; Jim Robinson; laplata; ...

” - - - Without TX and the South they are cold, hungry and bankrupt. - - - “

Your quote reminded me of my favorite speech by THE Sam Houston:

“TEXAS CAN GET ALONG WITHOUT THE UNITED STATES, BUT THE UNITED STATES CAN NEVER GET ALONG WITHOUT TEXAS !”

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With the cowardly RINOs spineless “opposition” to Marxist Mandatory Obamacare, the financial destruction of the US Federal Government is assured.

Thus, the question of a financially rational secession is not if, but when?

2014 would be an excellent year for Texas to secede, as the Obamacare Employer Mandated punishment tax will not yet have dumped tens of millions of employees into the abyss of the Mandatory Insurance “Exchanges.”

In this way, our proportion of the 17-18 Trillion dollar National Debt would about half of what it would be if we waited for the second 5 year Marxist Democrat Plan to kick in.

A regional “State” for Texas to be a part of would be all of the current States that the XL Pipeline will soon run through.

Since the NINE SUPREMES chose to ignore the US Constitution by rewriting Obamacare “fine” to Obamacare “tax,” there is no longer a legal US Supreme Court of record.

This Autumn, during the Reid-Obama shutdown of a small portion of the US Federal Government, it became obvious that the US Military was held in low esteem by Obama, as Commander In Chief. Thus, complicating expected Military loyalty for future Domestic expeditions.

As the Marxist Democrat-controlled Administration and Senate continue to spend more than their income, the Texas share of that National Debt will continue to rise. Hence, the sooner Texas secedes, the better, financially.

The ethics are fairly straight forward: we do not transport crude oil, natural gas, or any refined petroleum product outside of the borders of Texas or the borders of the States that officially join the secession of Texas.

In a similar manner that “An Army travels on its stomach,” the World travels on oil, a fact which will deter aggression and encourage negotiation.

Thus, Texas would be in a position of strength during the bloodless secession negotiations with the Marxist Democrats, and their loyal RINOs.

Once each State has paid off their share of the pre-secession National Debt, the financially solid former spine of old United States, discussions could begin with other regional groups of former States on matters that would not involve anything to do with the Ponzi Welfare System that bankrupted the former United States of America.


136 posted on 12/11/2013 10:19:53 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: stocksthatgoup
"This heavily popularized bit of Texas folklore find no corroboration where it counts"
Would this count?

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
137 posted on 12/11/2013 10:20:27 PM PST by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: Windflier

You made my day, Windflier! I will go to sleep with a smile on my face.


138 posted on 12/11/2013 10:21:20 PM PST by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: boxlunch

Everyone feels as you. It is a very sad time, one we could never imagine coming. It seems God has been very quiet over our land and we know why. We have as a nation shut the door on Him. Lord have mercy. America as we knew it, returns when He does, but, we must open the door.


139 posted on 12/11/2013 10:26:34 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: DManA

Put the juice down and give it a rest. We all got your point a long time ago.


140 posted on 12/11/2013 10:31:32 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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