Posted on 06/18/2013 10:08:43 AM PDT by SatinDoll
Marco Rubio has repeatedly claimed he "wants more" from the Amnesty Bill now moving through Congress.
Yes, folks, it's an amnesty bill. Let's cut the crap and call it what it is, because only through calling something what it is can we debate it.
"Legalization" of those who are here illegally today is amnesty. I don't care whether it leads to citizenship now or later, the fact of the matter is that it rewards criminal activity by allowing those who stole from Americans and their resources to keep what they stole and remain here in America.
There is no restitution. There is no penalty of consequence. There is nothing except benefit for them and a gigantic magnet pulling even more illegal immigrants to America.
America is a nation of immigrants. I'm the offspring of immigrants and odds are you are too. Unless you're 100% native American, you are a son or daughter of immigrants, directly or a few generations removed. Even if you can trace your heritage to the original colonists, you are the product of immigration.
But your parents, grandparents or other ancestors probably came here legally -- unless you're Hispanic. Then the odds are that your parents, grandparents or perhaps even you personally came here illegally.
Everyone wants to talk about "compassion" for the millions who are here already. But that's exactly identical to apologizing for bank robbers after you disarmed the guards and allowed millions of people to rob banks. After the fact you now want "compassion" for those who took the money?
And let's not kid ourselves -- that's exactly what happened. These people have come here, they have consumed our resources, they have sucked off the government tit. They don't pay taxes and by and large they don't cover their own costs. They have children who go to our schools, get free or reduced-price food that they rest of us pay for, they evade the taxation that pay for those schools, they show up in our hospitals with no money and no medical insurance, they drive on our roads with no insurance and when they wreck and injure or kill us by doing so our insurance bills go up to cover the uninsured motorist -- them.
The correct way to deal with this problem is to demand that every single one of these people either leave or pay back twice what they got. You dropped a kid into our schools for the last five years? The per-pupil cost in your district is $8,000? Cough up $80,000 (twice the $40k cost) as the fine for forcing us to support your child's education through your crime, plus double the cost of any other social benefits you've received, pay all of your back taxes for every penny of under-the-table "wages" you've earned and then go to the back of the line and apply for residency.
Of course none of these folks have $80,000. If they did they wouldn't have come here illegally in the first place.
And that's the problem, in a nutshell. They came here because they could "get" rather than earn. That's theft and fraud and until we call things what they are we cannot make progress.
The Libertarians want to argue that there should be "free movement of human capital." Fine -- I'm good with it when, and only when, there is utterly no means to access any taxpayer service for those who cross borders in this fashion and anyone who tries it is immediately charged and prosecuted for felony grand theft. But not one second before.
The Democrats want to argue that this is about compassion? Fine -- see above. Put a stop the magnet games and handouts and I'm ok with it.
In the early 1900s when millions of people came through Ellis Island there was no welfare system. You either worked hard and earned a living, assimilating into our culture, learning English and strove to become educated or you starved. Yes, there were groups that provided help but it was voluntary; Churches and other groups, most faith-based, did indeed provide help to those who couldn't help themselves and that's fine. But there was no Section 8 housing, no WIC, no Food Stamps and no free medical care.
You worked or you starved.
Now there is such a system and it is not only abused it is why these people come in the first place. Jose the roofer shoots a nail through his foot and you get the bill for that accident because Jose has no medical insurance or money and his "employer" isn't paying workman's comp insurance either because he's working illegally. Then Jose goes home and screws his wife or girlfriend, she gets pregnant and you get the bill for the prenatal care and birth because he has no money and neither does she, and they both access that care under EMTALA when things get ugly.
Try that crap as a US Citizen in Mexico. Go there on "vacation" and try to work. Forget it -- you'll go to jail. Get hurt and want the Mexican hospitals to treat you for free. Forget it -- you'll die. Think I'm kidding? I'm not -- I'm a diver and there are myriad warnings about exactly that risk if I choose not to carry dive insurance for recompression treatment. If I get bent in Cozumel I better either have a policy that will cover it outside the United States that the recompression chamber will accept or the ability to pay in cash before I get treated or I will be left crippled or even be allowed to die in agony -- literally.
This crap must stop and no bill that fails to put a 100% hard stop to it can be supported. What we have now is theft and fraud against the American people and ratifying that will simply bring more theft and fraud. We proved this the last time around when the promise was made to secure the border and stop the infiltration of people coming here for the benefits rather than to provide labor and advance our economy. We were told the flood of illegals would cease; it instead accelerated.
I want a strong, vibrant economy that is open to all who wish to come here and contribute on the same terms as Americans. That means assimilating into America -- becoming Americans. It means an end to groups like "La Raza." If you wish to be an American there is no hyphenation in your identity and there is no subgroup to which you belong -- you choose to speak English because that is the language of the nation, you choose to live under the political and legal system of our country, you integrate into our society and you cut the crap about being "special", "different" or having a right to get a pass on the laws and customs that the rest of us all live under and with. Period.
If your first act was to break the law by setting foot on our soil in an act of furtive evasion of said law and you then accessed our vast resources under the table you must (1) admit your sin and theft of that which did not belong to you, (2) make full penance for every dime of cost you imposed on us at a penalty rate in recognition and admission that what you did was wrong and (3) go stand at the back of the line behind all those who did neither of those things.
Marco Rubio refuses to face this because he's "afraid" of Hispanic reaction, as are others. But he's pandering to the wrong constituency. The people he's pandering to and afraid of are not citizens and cannot vote -- at least not without committing even more felonies. Hispanic people who are here legally and are citizens are broadly (and rightly!)*****ed off that there are millions of others who look like them that (1) damage their relationship with the rest of America by association and (2) are cutting in front of the line of their friends and family members who wish to come to America legally, willfully bearing the costs of citizenship to obtain the benefits.
The Democrats simply want to pander for votes and think they can turn the 20+ million illegals here into a new voting block by finding ways to give those who came here unlawfully the franchise.
That sort of thinking is exactly identical to giving bank robbers a controlling vote on whether bank robbery ought to be illegal.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense would discern that such a vote would destroy banking overnight.
The Democrats lack that common sense.
Does anyone on the other side of the aisle possess it?
Within a few years after thirty to forty million “immigrants” are added, there will be a serious movement for official bilingualism.
Like Canada...it will be the law of the land to have all public and private signs in both English and Spanish.
Do you doubt it?
Will it be the amnesty or the CW-II which is virtually assured following amnesty?
As far as I'm concerned, 'they' are not only 'robbing the bank' but they are being personally escorted in there to do it by Obama, Holder, Reid, Pelosi, the Gang of Eight WHICH INCLUDES RUBIO! and probably too damn many of our own Republican RINOS.
What will amnesty do “for” Americans? Question that Jeff Sessions asked. It’s a good question.
It is like that now in some of Texas retail stores and every government office.
Setting my GPS for Galt’s Gulch.
BTW native Americans were brought here by immigrants, too. They were just first.
If that big government liberal clown was your last hope then you were well and truly screwed a very long time ago.
NO, I don’t doubt it. We must have a national language and for the purposes of business, science and education, that means English.
English should be the national language, but there should be no laws forbidding the use of other languages OUTSIDE of government with the exception of specific associations.
Immigration to the U.S.A. should be measured and slow, spread across all the nations of the world.
Don’t look now, but half the illegals coming over these days would rather rape your wife and daughters; sell drugs to your children, and steal your car than find an honest job. They want to marry American, and import their families. Rubio and his ilk are weak-minded tools for the leftist destruction of America.
Response: True.
There is no intelligent discussion of this issue because the politicians all are afraid to criticize illegal immigrants.
Every one of them is a citizen of another country and has done something that should be criticized. And if we can’t acknowledge that, we are finished.
It’s my God given right to say F illegal immigrants, F Mohammed and F anyone who fails to respect this country.
Find it strange when the excuse is being given that while the government knows whats going on in 300 million citizens lives but because the illegals are not citizens and in “the shadows” according to Florida’s Senator Rubio the US doesn’t know who they are or where they’re comming from so we must make them citizens..
FR’s ;This Wednesday June 19th a Anti Amnesty Rally will be held on the Capitol grounds. Participants are urged to visit their respective Congressional Representatives and let them know their feelings Michelle Bachmann announced over the Rusty Humphries show
If you agree with the above and the following please don’t let it lay here in FR-land. Pass it on to to your favorite talk show host and to your US legislators. PUSH THE HASTERT RULE.
ONE NATIONALITY AMNESTY SKEWS QUOTAS. AMNESTY FOR NATIONALS FROM A COUNTRY THAT HAS CLAIMS ON OUR NATIONAL TERRITORY HURTS OTHERS FROM SOUTH AMERICA, AMERICAN CITIZENS AND SKILLED LABOR FROM OTHER NATIONS
In that May 3rd speech Obama gave before the Mexican Anthropological Museum in which he blamed America for the violence in Mexico I believe he went even futhur. There’s a inference but never referenced by name to the Gasden purchase and border settlements US made with Mexico where Obama hinted he seems to side with the Mexican claims. Would those in attendence share that view is a question that should be asked, because I believe they would,.he does.
SOLVING THE ‘LATINO” PROBLEM A MYTH HISPANIC IS NOT A RACE BUT A POLITICAL LINGUISTIC CONTRIVANCE ...don’t fall into the hypenated Americans trap created by the hypenated political party ...The DEMO-COMS
The Mexicans have been getting most favorable treatment above the rest of our neighbors both north and south. They’re permitted to cross our borders and enter illegally and are allowed access to rights of citizenship (with the exception of voting which if the democrat party regains control over the House will happen) other nationals entering this country don’t get.. Worse yet the Obama government has been working hand in glove with Mexican movements such as LaRaza supporting the Mexican claims which are also supporting “Amnesty”.
Also by allowing Mexicans to do this any quota ration for immigration from other south and central American countrys are taken up by Mexicans while that country is laying claim to a large chunk of our sovereign territory is a recipe for later serious problems which are happening now.
ARE MEXICAN ILLEGALS SQUATTERS PERPETUATING THE MEXICAN CLAIMS ?
We are already seeing the result of this in certain areas claimed by the Mexicans. Their national flag (standard) gets displayed over ours. Where there is a controlling number of Mexican nationals (illegals). It’s displayed over certain institutions particularly schools accompanied by riots and disturbances. Blacks are threatend by Mexicans in certain sections of citys in those areas. We’re courting trouble by not placing a value on our sovereignty and our citizenship.
MOST COINS OF THE REALM HAVE TWO FACES WHAT ABOUT HOW ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS LIVING IN MEXICO BEING TREATED ?
Worse yet if a US citizen goes into Mexico never mind illegaly but legally. They’ll get 2nd class treatment. Land ownership in title is prohibited period. And there are a slew of regulations they must comply with. Which doesn’t apply to a citizen of Mexico.
By not insisting on reciprocity particularly on those who have entered this country illegally we’re offering no incentive for assimilation and we’re not easing the burden for our fellow citizens who for what ever reason decided to live in Mexico.
ENOUGH OF THE ONE WORLD SOCIALISM ...BRING BACK SOVEREIGNTY AND SANITY TO OUR COUNTRY .....BRING BACK BELIEF IN GOD ...THIS GOVERNMENT OUT OUR FACE..... OUR RELIGIONS..... AND OUR BEDROOMS..
'Do you doubt it?'
This is already happening in Miami since the Cuban boatlift. Step one foot on U.S. soil & you're home free.
I haven’t looked at the stats in a while, but at one point in the near past, half the inmates in the Washington State Penitentiary system where Hispanic. And this was a point not so long ago when they made up a much smaller percentage of the overall population.
This was due to the illegal drug trade up and down Interstate 5, our national highway, from Mexico up into Canada.
I notice how such criminal activities have tainted the public perception of Hispanics, just like the Mafia tainted that of Italians. Not all Italians were criminally inclined; so too with Hispanics, but the public perception is there and will be difficult to overcome.
I'd love to see him drop the other shoe by writing an article detailing an enforcement strategy.
In my mind, it's not complex:
A. Cut off ALL state and federal benefits to illegals,
B. Aggressively go after companies who hire illegals,
C. Deport those who've committed no other crimes while here, and
D. Put some real muscle on the southern border.
BHO2 has only one goal and that is to create chaos among the people residing in these United States. His purpose: to declare martial law and establish himself as dictator.
I suspect it hasn’t occurred to him that if he is successful - and by no means do I believe it inevitable - it will be his last act as President.
The Puppeteers are not pleased with their puppet’s performance in the White House. He’s made too many mistakes.
That is why he and Valerie Jarrett have taken such extreme security measures. Both are truly terrified of assassination. I suspect it is the primary reason the First Lady and daughters are frequently separated from him.
Indeed. Was it answered?
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