Revealed: Maricopa County Attorney's Office Reply To Obama ID Fraud Criminal Complaint

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[Cold Case Posse Supporter]

From: Bill Montgomery To: Brian Reilly Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:30 AM Subject: Website Submission

Dear Mr. Reilly,

Thank you for taking the time to write and for the concerns you have expressed. There are a couple of points of analysis, though, in determining whether a criminal charge can be filed, regardless of the charge or who the suspect might be. The first is whether I have jurisdiction over the case. That requires that some conduct had to have occurred in Maricopa County for me to have jurisdiction. From the Sheriff’s Office investigation into suspect documents produced by the White House to date, that investigation has not revealed any evidence that conduct occurred in Maricopa County. I have discussed this with the Sheriff. As for any issues regarding qualifications or information provided regarding the Presidential Election itself, that is a statewide election. Under Arizona law, the Secretary of State and the Attorney General have jurisdiction over statewide elections. I do not.

I will share with you, as well, that the criminal statute you cited in your message requires additional evidence that the MCSO investigation to date has not uncovered. Specifically, we would need evidence to affirmatively prove that Mr. Obama is not a US citizen. To date, there has been evidence presented leading to speculation that documents have been forged and other documents do not exist. That alone, though, is not sufficient evidence to present to a grand jury and actually have a reasonable likelihood of conviction. I cannot speak for other prosecutors at the state level around the rest of the country or for prosecutors at the federal level but Arizona’s ethics rules do not permit prosecutors to file a charge they can only hope to be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt....

[little jeremiah]

What crap.

Thanks for posting it though. So in order to prove a crime has been committed, forgery is nothing. Someone has to prove BEFORE THIS GOES TO COURT that Zero is not a US citizen. What insanity. How can Reilly state this with a straight face? Why is everyone a G.D. coward?

[Kenny Bunk]

Reggie was a WH Resident until the Spring of '12, when he was found to have appeared in a homoerotic video shot some years before. He was very quickly disappeared from DC and the MSM swept the whole thing under their very large rug. If you recall, it was campaign season.

During the campaign, Reggie and Barry apparently continued to hook up on the road and on the sly until after the election, when Reggie reappeared in DC, where he resumed a lower, profile, non-WH-resident role. For instance, he accompanied Barry on the "Tiger Woods Adventure," and he is Barry's constant companion in DC and on the road. Discrete they ain't.

I would imagine that official "Visitor Logs" and "Guest Lists" are sanitized. It is still a mystery as to whether or not Reggie is on the payroll, as he definitely was as a WH aide in '09, '10, '11, and '12. How his presence is accounted for is something into which only a few of us actually inquire.

For some 18 months, Reggie and our POTUS spent those days in the White House when he and the POTUS were not "on vacation" locked away in a "den" into which eventually only Valerie Jarrett had constant access, bringing memos, snacks, drinks, and teleprompter scripts. In the "den" are 6 large flat screens tuned to various ESPN channels. They usually only left to "shoot hoops" in the WH gym, when the POTUS had meetings, or to travel together.

It is during this strange interlude when the Michelle and the girls began their "separate vacations" routine.

Barack and Reggie? Think of J. Edgar and Clyde. They are practicing "Don't ask; don't tell," and so is everyone else.

[Cyber Liberty]

Correct. If there is a crime of fraud involving the filing for candidacy, it happened in Maricopa County, because that’s where the State Capitol is. Montgomery is being a weasel.

[Fantasywriter]

A very good post, KB. & the thing is, people know. Security people know. Jarret knows. Some reporters know. A handful of others know. Sans blue dress, none are likely to blow the whistle.

But is it reasonable to imagine Barry & Reggie can carry on indefinitely without ever leaving a trace? The handlers have done a fine job so far, but it wd amount to squat w’out the fear of being called a racist for suggesting such a thing about the resident of color. That’s been their ace in the hole all along. People really, really do not like being called a racist, & harangued as such.

Nevertheless it has been & remains my belief that sooner or later someone will speak. They may not possess a blue dress per se, but they’ll have something. Barry is NOT a likeable person. He’s rubbed a LOT of people the wrong way. Eventually his chickens will come home to roost.

Or so it seems to me. Time will tell.

[sten]

if she presented that to the state, then she needs to be subpoenaed.

of course, just like a friend cannot present your license for you... all candidates must submit the qualifying paperwork themselves... which includes citizenship verification and in the case of the POTUS, natural born citizen eligibility documents.

so... did the supervisors office not collect the data? if so, they perpetrated fraud and someone needs to be charged.

of course, even if the paper work was not filed THEN... it must still be filed NOW, for the 2012 and 2008 elections... just to insure the records are straight

if you don’t think that’s important since it’s so long ago, try that with the IRS

[combat_boots]

I’m going for the threesome 0bama likes and his Hazara boys.

[sten]

IF the investigation by the sheriffs office has been completed...

have the findings been SUBMITTED to the attorney’s office so they may pursue charges on the fraud that was committed against the people of the county?

answer: no. not according to Mongomery’s office

^^^ important tidbit ... NO ONE is looking into this case any further

[frog in a pot]

You are making a good, sensible argument that most right thinking people can appreciate. However, it failed early on in NJ (although not well presented), then CA, eventually in NH and everywhere else presented.

I had hoped that a dozen or so of the Republican AG’s from various states would band together in 2009 with some sort of action. It quickly became obvious there was no desire by “our team” to alter the status quo.

One can only surmise that our betters determined the Won was more desirable than BJ’s wife.

Clearly, there is good reason to conclude we have become a nation of politics, rather than a nation of laws.

[frog in a pot]

Well, FW, you are now frightening the real trolls on FR.

Fortunately, however, the majority doubt that KB is a troll for the IRS; and, indeed, some of us actually know just what he is.

You recall the Newhart Show that was produced in Vermont and the sort of dry humor and clever use of words that made Newhart so popular?

Reliable sources in NYC have id’d Kenny Bunk as being the chief writer for that TV series. When Newhart finally retired, KB packed up and moved a few miles east to Kennebunkport, Maine where he now lives comfortably in upper class style with a view of his 60 footer at the dock.

Apologies to CCPS.

[Nero Germanicus]

In Arizona, which is especially important because of the Maricopa County Cold Case Posse investigation and Sheriff Arpaio’s jurisdiction, Obama himself signed a notarized statement attesting to his natural born citizen status in order to get on the ballot in 2008. Pelosi also signed the form along with Obama.
You can view it here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11107727/Barack-Obama-Presidential-Candidate-Nomination-Paper-State-of-Arizona-2007

Obama’s eligibility was challenged in Arizona Courts but the challenges were denied and Obama was ruled to be a natural born citizen, eligible for the Arizona ballot.

Allen v Obama, Arizona Superior Court Judge Richard E. Gordon: “Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent in construing the United States Constitution, and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), does not hold otherwise.”—Pima County Superior Court, Tuscon, Arizona, March 7, 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/84531299/AZ-2012-03-07-Allen-v-Obama-C20121317-ORDER-Dismissing-Complaint

[Brown Deer]

if she presented that to the state, then she needs to be subpoenaed.



The document is signed by Chair of the DNC Convention and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, DNC Secretary Alice Travis Germond and Colorado Notary of Public Shalifa A. Williamson. It is dated August 28, 2008.

However, this document was never delivered to a single state DNC Office for state certification, and it was therefore, never presented to any state Election Commission as certification of these candidates...

Instead, a very similar document was delivered to fifty state DNC offices, which those offices certified to each of fifty state Election Commissions, who then date-stamped the document and stuck it in a file cabinet, and proceeded to place these “certified” candidates on the ballot.

The “Official Certification of Nomination” that was presented by the DNC in all fifty states for the 2008 Presidential election, in which Barack Hussein Obama became the new President of the United States, was almost identical, and it too was signed by Chair of the DNC Convention and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, DNC Secretary Alice Travis Germond and Notary of Public Shalifa A. Williamson, dated August 28, 2008.

But this version of the document was missing the following text, and I quote;

“- and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.”



all candidates must submit the qualifying paperwork themselves... which includes citizenship verification and in the case of the POTUS, natural born citizen eligibility documents.

According to what law?

Arizona Senate Bill SB 1024 (2010) (Senate declined to vote)

then the following year, Brewer vetoes 'birther' bill

HB2177

did the supervisors office not collect the data? if so, they perpetrated fraud and someone needs to be charged.

Supervisor's office perpetrated fraud? How so?

[Brown Deer]

[visually_augmented]

Sorry for hijacking this thread but this is all news to me and seems quite blatant. After seeing KB’s post about Reggie, I did a web search on him and all the info just drops off when he “leaves the White House to pursue his MBA”. As you said, the media appears to have been “blacked out” on this subject and probably threatened with their lives if they push the story any further. Which is odd because the National Enquirer, The Sun, and similar rags ususally eat this stuff up...

[Fantasywriter]

Lol!! There is a writing style resemblance between KB & whoever wrote for the Newhart Show. Good word-detection work on that one, fiap. & who knew KB was the skipper of such a yacht? I bet he looks sharp in that spiffy black & white cap they like to wear.

Just guessing here, KB, but is the name of your yacht the Minnow by any chance?

[Fantasywriter]

Reggie also received a large pay-off upon departure from a deep pocketed Dem political donor. I cd look the man’s name up if need be. [Orin Kramer. I just happened to come across it on another site.]

What’s interesting is that Reggie isn’t the first. If Obama’s relationship w ex-Chicago cop Michael Signator doesn’t indicate a gay affair nothing does. I’ll include the link to the Hillbuzz page, Is Barack Obama Gay, & advice you to use the search function to read about Signator. Reggie Love follows the exact same pattern.

It looks like Obama is just blatant about it, but as you say, even the tabs leave it alone. [Well not entirely. DuJan at HillBuzz has collected a few tab headlines on the subject. Look them over if you get a chance. A lot of people—including Drudge—are trying to tell us something. Most people just don’t want to hear it.] The idea that this is never going to come out into the open seems farfetched to me. Just give it a little time, imho.

http://hillbuzz.org/is-barack-obama-gay

[Fantasywriter]

advice = advise

[Seizethecarp]

“...have the findings been SUBMITTED to the attorney’s office so they may pursue charges on the fraud that was committed against the people of the county?

“answer: no. not according to Mongomery’s office”

That was true as of September 2012, but I do not seen any affirmation from Montgomery that a criminal investigation has not begun since then based on the certification of forgery by the forensic laboratory claimed recently by Zullo.

[sten]

I spoke with a woman in Montgomery’s office today (she wouldn’t give me her name, but was trying to get mine along with being difficult)... she said she has no knowledge of any criminal cases relating to the sheriffs investigation relating to the forgery and/or fraud

liberal guard watching the gate immediately came to mind

[sten]

*sigh* I’ve stated this numerous times on these forums. here goes again

by putting a person’s name on the ballot, the governors office, by way of the supervisor of election, is stating that these names are eligible to take the office... of they were to win the election.

if they do not confirm eligibility... they are perpetrating a fraud just as much as the person origining the fraud.

it is not up to the party or the federal govt, at that point, to verify eligibility. (yes, the fed must verify for themselves... after the election). to insure votes are not cast on ineligible candidates, the state must AT LEAST collect the qualifying paperwork to insure the basic integrity of the election

[Flotsam_Jetsome]

Good on you, for ringing them up.

"... she said she has no knowledge of any criminal cases relating to the sheriffs investigation relating to the forgery and/or fraud"

That still begs the question as to whether or not findings have been (officially) SUBMITTED to the DA for further inquiry and the empanelment, if need be(!) a Grand Jury to look into the matter further. If they have not been submitted, then why not?