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To: LucyT

if she presented that to the state, then she needs to be subpoenaed.

of course, just like a friend cannot present your license for you... all candidates must submit the qualifying paperwork themselves... which includes citizenship verification and in the case of the POTUS, natural born citizen eligibility documents.

so... did the supervisors office not collect the data? if so, they perpetrated fraud and someone needs to be charged.

of course, even if the paper work was not filed THEN... it must still be filed NOW, for the 2012 and 2008 elections... just to insure the records are straight

if you don’t think that’s important since it’s so long ago, try that with the IRS


25 posted on 05/28/2013 2:12:32 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

You are making a good, sensible argument that most right thinking people can appreciate. However, it failed early on in NJ (although not well presented), then CA, eventually in NH and everywhere else presented.

I had hoped that a dozen or so of the Republican AG’s from various states would band together in 2009 with some sort of action. It quickly became obvious there was no desire by “our team” to alter the status quo.

One can only surmise that our betters determined the Won was more desirable than BJ’s wife.

Clearly, there is good reason to conclude we have become a nation of politics, rather than a nation of laws.


28 posted on 05/28/2013 2:58:55 PM PDT by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." This from a guy who never had a real job and his family starved.)
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To: sten

In Arizona, which is especially important because of the Maricopa County Cold Case Posse investigation and Sheriff Arpaio’s jurisdiction, Obama himself signed a notarized statement attesting to his natural born citizen status in order to get on the ballot in 2008. Pelosi also signed the form along with Obama.
You can view it here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11107727/Barack-Obama-Presidential-Candidate-Nomination-Paper-State-of-Arizona-2007

Obama’s eligibility was challenged in Arizona Courts but the challenges were denied and Obama was ruled to be a natural born citizen, eligible for the Arizona ballot.

Allen v Obama, Arizona Superior Court Judge Richard E. Gordon: “Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent in construing the United States Constitution, and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), does not hold otherwise.”—Pima County Superior Court, Tuscon, Arizona, March 7, 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/84531299/AZ-2012-03-07-Allen-v-Obama-C20121317-ORDER-Dismissing-Complaint


30 posted on 05/28/2013 3:33:18 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: sten; LucyT
if she presented that to the state, then she needs to be subpoenaed.



The document is signed by Chair of the DNC Convention and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, DNC Secretary Alice Travis Germond and Colorado Notary of Public Shalifa A. Williamson. It is dated August 28, 2008.

However, this document was never delivered to a single state DNC Office for state certification, and it was therefore, never presented to any state Election Commission as certification of these candidates...

Instead, a very similar document was delivered to fifty state DNC offices, which those offices certified to each of fifty state Election Commissions, who then date-stamped the document and stuck it in a file cabinet, and proceeded to place these “certified” candidates on the ballot.

The “Official Certification of Nomination” that was presented by the DNC in all fifty states for the 2008 Presidential election, in which Barack Hussein Obama became the new President of the United States, was almost identical, and it too was signed by Chair of the DNC Convention and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, DNC Secretary Alice Travis Germond and Notary of Public Shalifa A. Williamson, dated August 28, 2008.

But this version of the document was missing the following text, and I quote;

“- and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.”



all candidates must submit the qualifying paperwork themselves... which includes citizenship verification and in the case of the POTUS, natural born citizen eligibility documents.

According to what law?

Arizona Senate Bill SB 1024 (2010) (Senate declined to vote)

then the following year, Brewer vetoes 'birther' bill

HB2177

did the supervisors office not collect the data? if so, they perpetrated fraud and someone needs to be charged.

Supervisor's office perpetrated fraud? How so?
31 posted on 05/28/2013 3:50:38 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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