Posted on 06/15/2011 8:52:24 AM PDT by westcoastwillieg
The state of Hawaii claims that the "birth certificate" for Barack Obama in its files – presumably the document that was copied and distributed by the White House – remains confidential.
The image released April 27 by the White House was described by administration officials as "proof positive" of Obama's Hawaiian birth.
At that time, officials in Hawaii's health department and governor's office refused to provide confirmation to WND that the image released by the White House accurately represented the birth documentation in the state's custody.
Now, officials have refused to respond to a subpoena requesting the birth record, citing confidentiality...
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
You publicly releasing your BC would have no effect on the state law regarding releasing a person’s BC.
I have long believed that is exactly what is happening. I suspect Obama was Adopted by Soetoro, and that he thereby obtained an amended birth certificate. I think a judge later re-amended it to show what it shows now. I think we have yet to see the actual original document, and I should not be surprised to discover it to be a "born at home affidavit." If you think about it, what else could "Half typed, Half handwritten" be talking about? This is exactly what I would expect a "born at home" affidavit (from 1961) to look like.
No, I said if the person had already made it public themselves, what diff would it make if other people wanted a copy?
Taking a reading comprehension class, please. You’ll save yourself some trouble. (And maybe another in how to string together a logical sentence.)
I don’t need to be more careful. I said exactly what I meant. Birthers always read more into my comments than is really there. It’s a game y’all play when you have nothing to add or no logical argument.
One of my long standing points is that a bureaucrat in one state should not be deciding Constitutional law for the rest of the nation.
My grammar advice to you was very specific, honest and earnest, friendly even. Your complaint against my ability or understanding in how to “string together a logical sentence”, in the absence of specifics, would be read by most as a not an honest attempt at advice, but just reactionary bad-mouthing. If you have legitimate grammar advice for me, I would appreciate it.
I doubt there is a constitutional right to get someone else’s birth certificate.
If you had read the thread, you would have seen that my remark was only directed at the natural-born citizen issue, and in no way the fraud issue. In fact, westcoastwillieg had indicated that the other stuff was irrelevant because of the N-BC issue, and I was questioning that. Your sarcasm was misplaced.
When everyone's guilty, no one is guilty. It's not just a few people in Hawaii, but the entire United States Congress, who are afraid to point out that the shuck and jive emperor has no clothes.
ML/NJ
Little League officials ask for and get them all the time.
Say what?
Who is wanting to "use" Barry's LFBC? Are you alleging that Taitz wants to being using Barry's alleged LFBC?
Furthermore, how is identity theft the "same" thing as someone voluntarily releasing their (alleged) LFBC to the public?
They can state anything they want but some court could force them to divulge the information for the official record based on what I stated above that they have forfeited their right to any privacy in post 107. Hawaii and Obama are on very thin grounds.
a. Try and convince enough legislators in Hawai’i to change the law.
Say that to Jack Ryan who was against Obama for the Illinois senate seat back in 2004, and who was on stronger legal grounds than Obama is now who had his private records disclosed to the court. After his court sealed records were released, Ryan quit the senate race.
A snippet from a 2004 Chicago Tribune article:
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"But [Judge] Schnider said he had weighed the public interest of disclosure against the private interests of the Ryans and their child. "In the end," Schnider found, "the balance tips slightly to the public.
"They were aware they were in a public court system and protection from embarrassment cannot be a basis for keeping from the public what's put in public courts," said Schnider, referring to Ryan and his ex-wife, actress Jeri Lynn Ryan. Additionally, Schnider said, "the openness of court files must be maintained, so that the public ... can be assured that there is no favoritism shown to the rich and the powerful." "
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Court sets release of Ryan's divorce file; Judge admits son will be harmed (Flashback)
Chicago Tribune ^ | June 18, 2004 | Michael Martinez and Rick Pearson
Sorry if I misunderstood your point.
Bovrilla has an interesting posting history.
a. Try and convince enough legislators in Hawai’i to change the law.
b. Get a competent lawyer, licenced to practice in Hawai’i, to sue the DoH and get a legal subpoena based on a sound legal footing in a case with standing.
Outside of that you’re SOL, it’s the law, the law does not recognize any waivers you may want to make up any more than it recognized Orly’s attempt.
Or, convince the legislatures in your own state to pass a law which requires proof of eligibility for candidates before they are allowed to get on the ballot. Funny you didn't mention that option. Probably wouldn't LIKE that result would you?
Oblunder is already making squeaking noises about serving only one term; Like he's gonna have a choice or not. People voted for him the first time to prove they weren't racists. Now they will have to vote against him to prove they aren't idiots.
Of course he will always have the hard core Democrats. They are the stupidest and most evil people who have ever walked the planet. Any time they have managed to lie and deceive their way into power, they have been an unmitigated disaster for the United States and the world in general. Starting with their first Racist Democrat President (Andrew Jackson) and Founder of the DNC (Democrat National Committee) and extending through all the blood soaked thieves and racists that make up the entire History of their party. We have Andrew Jackson to thank for stealing the lands in the south from the Indians, and making them safe for white slave plantation owners.
Margaret Sanger is the patron saint of the Democrat Party. She was an exhibitionist slut (arrested for public nakedness) who was the mistress of Roger Baldwin till she grew tired of him. She wanted to stamp out "Human weeds" (Her term for non-white peoples) and was a supporter of the Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan. In other words, a typical Democrat. The Klan itself was founded by Nathan Bedford Forest, Delegate to the Democrat National Convention in 1868, where his racist views were greatly appreciated by his Fellow Democrats.
Blood, death, and oppression is the legacy of the Democrats. Party of Slavery, Party of Abortion, Party of Theft, Party of sickness, and party of lies. Lies from a smiling face.
The courts are certainly speaking out of the other side of their mouth now. What a stinking mess this country is in.
"If someone steals a persons SSN or patient records and publishes them on the Internet, do they miraculously become legally free to use by someone else.....? Same with LFBC"
So again...who is wanting to "use" Barry's LFBC? Are you alleging that Taitz wants to begin using Barry's alleged LFBC?
Furthermore, how is identity theft the "same" thing as someone voluntarily releasing their (alleged) LFBC to the public?
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