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Can we please keep comments about the Mormon faith off the political discussion threads?
one man's opinion...

Posted on 05/24/2011 4:07:08 PM PDT by ken5050

As we enter the GOP primary season, I'm starting to notice more and more an annoying trend here in FR. It seems as though everytime there's an article, or someone posts a comment about Romney, either pro or con, it nearly always devolves into an extended, and acrimonious discussion about the Mormon faith. Those who defend it, and those who, for whatever reasons, can't abide it, both sides seem determined to wage an "end of times" batte on all the FR threads. Frankly, I'm tired of it, and just wish it would stop. I think that probably 99% of others here feel the same way.


TOPICS: Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: backstabberromney; delphiuserzot; falsereligion; inman; jsmithlyingwomanizer; magicunderwear; mormonbashing; mormoncult; romneybotzot; romneyfail; whiningbackstabber; whiningromney; whiningromneybot; zot
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To: Colofornian

Your reply just reinforces my statement concerning the original post. Did I step on the toes of your cult, per chance?


841 posted on 05/26/2011 4:40:59 PM PDT by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: Colofornian

Your reply just reinforces my statement concerning the original post. Did I step on the toes of your cult, per chance?


842 posted on 05/26/2011 4:41:14 PM PDT by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: Elsie

“I now go liberal and blame: LACK of COFFEE!”

LOL, they do always seem to have an excuse for something don’t they? Heck, I’ve used that one myself.


843 posted on 05/26/2011 6:00:49 PM PDT by Grunthor (CAIN/BACHMANN or BACHMANN/CAIN. Either way Obommunism is over.)
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To: donozark
Time to Twitter of your gang of old bats.

(I was Amelia Earhart.)

O...

K...

844 posted on 05/26/2011 7:01:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MHGinTN
Are you a Mormon by chance?

or choice?

845 posted on 05/26/2011 7:03:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Osage Orange
Darn N.S. The CHURCH of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints the fact that your words are recorded really sucks...doesn't it?
846 posted on 05/26/2011 7:06:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Tennessee Nana
The Mormon religious institution first, the Mormon god later..


847 posted on 05/26/2011 7:22:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Grunthor

Well; I got my coffee, but later I forgot what meal I had it with!


848 posted on 05/26/2011 7:24:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

The MODERN signs seem to use a font with no lowercase characters.

That way, the fact that 'day' is NOT capitalized, is lost.

849 posted on 05/26/2011 7:28:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ken5050

It’s not likely that it will stop, so that isn’t a realistic option.

The right response is:

1. Come up with a short, crisp answer that automatically wins any argument.

2. Ignore it/shrug it off


850 posted on 05/26/2011 7:39:08 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: Osage Orange

Attacking another religion, especially using falsehoods and misinformation to do so, is bigotry. I’m glad in your happy land bigotry doesn’t exist, but try reading the hate dripping out of these Mormon bashing threads and still tell me there’s no bigotry involved.


851 posted on 05/27/2011 10:01:15 AM PDT by MissesBush
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To: ken5050

Out of curiosity I checked this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2725798/posts and found the word ‘Mormon’ in exactly two posts out of ~700. Of course, it’s possible (probable?) that some already got deleted.


852 posted on 05/27/2011 10:59:15 AM PDT by Sloth (If a tax cut constitutes "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should count as a "desposit.")
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To: MissesBush
Attacking another religion, especially using falsehoods and misinformation to do so, is bigotry.

First posting the 'beliefs" of any religion is not an attack, but that is another matter...

As it is other than occasional hyperbole in the heat of the moment there has yet to be valid and viable rebuttal to the supposed “falsehoods and misinformation” posted here about the Mormon Cult.When the Mormon finally prove their words and clear up all the issues with their "prophets, you will have a point.

853 posted on 05/27/2011 2:18:24 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: MissesBush
State, and direct me to the exact "falsehoods and misinformation" that you are speaking about.

I know bigotry exists...never said it didn't.

Please read the mormon D & C....specially take note of B. Young's words...and get back to me if he was a BIGOT or not.

You can take all the time you need..............

854 posted on 05/29/2011 7:12:15 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is an enemy of the United States of America)
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To: Elsie
Delph God can do anything right? Even answer the prayer of a Mormon if the fate of the nation is on the line...

LC Well; I suppose. The bible records the HE did use a talking ass before, so...

Not all who speak as an ass are speaking for God, in fact, it's a vanishingly small percentage.

Delph
855 posted on 05/30/2011 11:36:46 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Elsie
Delph IMHO, it is hypocritical of the Freepers here to say Mormons can't hold the presidency, then ask us to vote for their evangelical candidate...

LC And It is NOT my opinion that you are not being truthful in what you just typed.

This is funny, so your opinion is that My opinion is a lie and I don't really hold that opinion?

My philosophy professor told me that whenever it's a matter of opinion, I am right...

LC You have BEEN in threads where MANY of us said that we'd vote for a MORMON - IF that mormon gave any indication that he/she were a conservative.

really? You know that I don't support Mitt BECAUSE I can find no evidence that he is a conservative, and whenever I tried to discuss that in the last election cycle I couldn't get a word in edgewise with all the bashers jumping into the fray to attack Mormonism. Correct me if I am wrong LC, but weren't you one of the people who kept harping on Mormonism? (Lurkers, A simple search of LC's comments will help anyone who is confused, just click on his name "Elsie" and click "InForum" at the top of his page.)

LC Quit building so many strawmen.

You build so many I thought they'd want playmates...

Delph
856 posted on 05/30/2011 11:45:47 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Elsie
Delph IMHO, from a business stand point JR should send them all packing.

LC You failed to ping Jim yet again.

A) JR is kind of a special case, if everyone pinged him every time he was mentioned, he'd never have time to read all the pings, let alone respond.

B) I have not been shy about my opinion, He knows what I think and has made his disapproval of that opinion obvious, why would I rudely continue to ping him about it?

Oh, you want me to get banned for expressing my opinion on a private forum and then rubbing it in the owners face when he has already said he would ban those who disagree. You're a peach you are, just brimming with the milk of human kindness and love of your fellow man...

IMHO, you not only won't shed a tear if I get banned, you'd love to be a part of it happening, but that's just my opinion.

Delph
857 posted on 05/30/2011 12:05:40 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
Not all who speak as an ass are speaking for God, in fact, it's a vanishingly small percentage.

I'm sure you data to back up your claim; right?

858 posted on 05/30/2011 6:28:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: DelphiUser
Not all who speak as an ass are speaking for God, in fact, it's a vanishingly small percentage.

I'm sure you have data to back up your claim; right?

859 posted on 05/30/2011 6:29:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MissesBush
Attacking another religion, especially using falsehoods and misinformation to do so, is bigotry.

I just HATE when that happens!

Especially when there is a RECORD of it!


Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (, p.270).
 
Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (, p. 119).
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" ( 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" ( 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" ( 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (, vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" ( 10:230).
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (, p. 255).
 
Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (, 18:172).
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (, 10:127).
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (, p.182).
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (, vol. 3, p.282).
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (, p.316).
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (, vol. 2, p.196).
 

860 posted on 05/30/2011 6:31:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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