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Frank Luntz Focus Group Picks Winner of First GOP Debate!
Youtube ^ | 5/5/11 | Luntz Focus Group

Posted on 05/06/2011 8:23:41 AM PDT by justsaynomore

Wow, this is interesting. A focus group of SC Republican primary voters came in with only 1 supporting Cain, and left with the majority supporting Cain.

What is interesting is WHY they changed their vote. Also interesting is their feelings about the other potential candidates not showing up.


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To: justsaynomore
Cain has a good head on his shoulders. Unfortunately, he's unknown. He has no "voting record" that would allow us to know who he really is. Unless a gazillion questions were asked, we'd never know. Remember, Oboma was unknown and unvetted, and look what happened when voters made the mistake of assuming he was on the American peoples side.
So far, there's only been one debate, and not all the candidates were there. This was just a blip on the radar screen, but Cain did very well. Out of them all, I thought Cain won, too.
41 posted on 05/06/2011 9:13:35 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I didn’t mean to come off as officious, just my opinion, many share it, you don’t, but let’s not fight.


42 posted on 05/06/2011 9:13:54 AM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan 2012)
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To: Elle Bee
was it Tim Johnston? ... from New Mexico? he's a liberal democrat who just hasn't come out yet

That guy spent his entire time on stage twitching and nervous. His answers were ... passable for New Mexico, but Obama would tear through him like a bear mauling a chubby boy scout.

He had all the grace and bearing of a simple, earnest man who had no idea he was not qualified to be there, surrounded by people too polite to point out he was way out of his league.

43 posted on 05/06/2011 9:14:56 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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44 posted on 05/06/2011 9:17:47 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: RightOnline

I think it’s time we stop listening to what people are telling us we are hearing and start thinking for ourselves. Perphaps Wallace is trying to give Cain a little helpful advice...perhaps Wallace is tyring to shill for establishment-types (as Fox seems to be wont to do of late)...

My take on the debate was:

Paul—not a serious candidate
Santorum—sounded good...but too “politiciany”
Pawlenty—see Santorumj
Johnson—no...No...NO!!!!
Cain—sounded sincere, needs polish, LOVE HIS OUTSIDER STATUS


45 posted on 05/06/2011 9:18:23 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: justsaynomore

Cain was terrific last night I’m amazed how many people don’t know him- I watch Cavuto regularly snad have seen Neil interview him many times over the years.

So far- he’s my favorite of our possibilities.


46 posted on 05/06/2011 9:19:03 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: celtic gal

It really would be just what America needs West is beyond brilliant all around and excels in foreign policy national security. Cain would tie into the economy and job creation in a non nonsense we the people; get big gov out-way. With these two we would come the closest to cleaning up DC.

The GOP will be duly shocked when they find out America does not want scripted Pawlenty,Santorum,Huck,Newt,Romney.


47 posted on 05/06/2011 9:19:53 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: altura
So many posters here are living in la-la land.

Last night's potential candidates were the Republican Party B Team, maybe even the C team......all with zero to none chance of winning even a cupie doll.....including one of my favs, Herman Cain.

Obama has ruined the chance of any blacks winning the presidency for the foreseable future. Some freepers have been pushing a West/Cain ticket, two great men, but a ticket that would never get off the ground...sad but true.

Leni

48 posted on 05/06/2011 9:22:53 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: RightOnline
Cain really needs to bone up on foreign policy (i.e. actually HAVE a foreign policy plan) to play in this league.

As opposed to boy king's foreign policy of "let's disarm and negotiate with the world's terrorists with no preconditions"?

To me the reason Cain comes across this positive is because he showed he has the gonads to take it to Obozo and he is not a politician but rather a straight talker. As someone else poster here, Cain is Trump without the Trump negatives (so far).
49 posted on 05/06/2011 9:23:22 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I still wish Condalezza would run. Cain/Rice??


50 posted on 05/06/2011 9:27:09 AM PDT by BreitbartSentMe (ATLAS SHRUGGED was supposed to be a warning, NOT a newspaper.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
The GOP will be duly shocked when they find out America does not want scripted Pawlenty,Santorum,Huck,Newt,Romney.

There's too much "You scratch my back, then I'll scratch yours. We'll call it bipartisanship" going on in Washington. (While the politicians get richer and more powerful, the tax payers get poorer and more enslaved.)

51 posted on 05/06/2011 9:39:15 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: justsaynomore

Cain is a good man! the best out of the group and the clear winner of last nights debate


52 posted on 05/06/2011 9:39:21 AM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: justsaynomore

Cain is a good man! the best out of the group and the clear winner of last nights debate


53 posted on 05/06/2011 9:39:26 AM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: justsaynomore

Cain is a good man! the best out of the group and the clear winner of last nights debate


54 posted on 05/06/2011 9:39:47 AM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: RightOnline

I prefer the candidate who is honest and says, I would talk to the people that KNOW what is going on - the military leaders and boots on the ground.

That is the right answer. Too many politicians act like they have a plan when in fact they have no clue what is really going on. Do people really want another candidate who says what people want to hear or who tells the truth?

But generally Herman Cain believes:

Herman believes in “peace through strength.”

NO to Sharia law, and as a result, no Muslims in his cabinet unless they denounce Sharia law

A strong military – Defense spending should be used more effectively, but never cut below 4% of GDP.

In an interview with the Daily Caller: As for what’s going on in the Middle East right now, Cain said the president has to listen to military experts – adding that the situation in Iraq is stable, but Afghanistan is “still a mess” because of internal conflicts within the Afghan government.

“Politics have had too big a part to play in how we handled working in Afghanistan. General [David] Petraeus and the other generals should decide on the rules of engagement, not politicians and that has been part of the problem,” Cain said. “He [President Obama] is not qualified to write a military strategy. That’s not leadership. Listen to the military experts. That’s my approach to handling war and international conflict.”

In Iran, Cain supports pushing a diplomatic approach for nuclear disarmament, but said the United States should be weary of the Iranian regime. Cain said the U.S. and the UN should continue with strict sanctions and follow through on them, but should be ready to react in the case Iran does anything out of line.

“I don’t have enough confidential inside information to know how close they [Iran] are to building a nuclear weapon and, from the information [President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad has put out there in the press, I don’t think they’re that close,” Cain said. “Where they are a threat is in Israel, the fact that they have flat-out threatened to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.”

Cain said any threat to Israel should be taken seriously and considered as a threat to the United States.

“Israel is an ally and friend of the United States of America,” Cain said. “I whole-heartedly believe in helping Israel defend itself, whatever that takes. I can’t tell you what that would take because I’m not privy to all the things that it would take. Secondly, if they’re going to make such a threat to Israel, what country is going to be next? Probably the United States of America.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/11/potential-presidential-candidate-herman-cain-speaks-to-thedc-about-where-he-stands-on-domestic-foreign-policy/#ixzz1LafHmY8Y

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In an interview with American Thinker: Herman Cain’s approach to foreign policy is, “We will be friends with our friends and evaluate who our enemies are and watch our enemies.” Regarding foreign aid, “I don’t believe in providing financial support to those who really are not our friends.” In dealing with myriad conflicts around the world Cain stated he would use the approach that he has in business, “Listen to the experts. That’s what leaders do, they know how to listen to the experts and then make an informed decision about critical issues.” He indicated he would, “Talk to the people who know the most about the subject: the military generals, the field generals, the joint chiefs of staff.” Referring to the war in Afghanistan for example, he said he would first define what winning is, then determine if winning was possible, then based upon that input, strategize as to what the United States should do.

The fight against Islamic Fascism is global. Fight it wherever it is a threat to the United States of America. Let our intelligence agencies do their jobs.


55 posted on 05/06/2011 9:42:15 AM PDT by justsaynomore ("Holding hands and singing kumbayah is not a foreign policy strategy!" - Herman Cain)
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To: concerned about politics

He no longer an “unknown”.

It is easy to know who he is, read his books, read his commentaries, listen to his interviews, podcasts of his shows. There is a record of where Herman stands on every issue going back a long, long time.

We have people who know him even back in the days of Burger King and Godfather’s who have volunteered in his campaign and they testify that this is who he is. I have followed him since 2004 and he is the most consistent public conservative I have ever followed, hands down. And the most articulate.


56 posted on 05/06/2011 9:47:38 AM PDT by justsaynomore ("Holding hands and singing kumbayah is not a foreign policy strategy!" - Herman Cain)
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To: TomGuy

Pawlenty is the second coming of John McCain, and was seriously considered instead of Palin for the VP spot on that ticket. McCain wanted him, but realized that without Palin motivating the base that his crushing defeat would have been worse than it was.

He’s a RINO that big government Republican beltway insiders can love.


57 posted on 05/06/2011 9:49:14 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: justsaynomore

You make good points about Cain. These child like questions of “what would you do about” misses the point. Circumstances are what they are at the time, and it is much more important to know what a person stands for and how solidly they stand for it.

Herman Cain’s stances are solid and can be documented. He would be a Reagan, not an Obama, and you can apply that to any future situation.


59 posted on 05/06/2011 9:54:34 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
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To: Yet_Again

Herman Cain is impressive.


60 posted on 05/06/2011 9:56:14 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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