Posted on 05/11/2010 6:32:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
This is just plain nuts. Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, a highly-decorated Army surgeon, with 18-years of service behind him, is willingly throwing his career and reputation away, because be believes in the birther conspiracy nonsense that President Obama is not a natural born citizen. The Army has instituted court martial proceedings against him for refusing to obey deployment orders to Afghanistan, which Lakin says are illegal orders from an illegal alien. The birther doctor appeared on CNN’s Anderson Cooper’s 360 program Friday evening with his lawyer. And the interview soon turn heated, as Cooper attempted to inject some fact-based reality into the conversation.
Lakin’s lawyer Paul Jensen, obtained by the birther conspiracy groups American Patriot Foundation/Safeguard Our Constitution, continually jumped in to answer Cooper’s questions posed to Lakin. The basis of Jensen’s arguments all center on his rejection of Obama’s Certificate of Live birth issued by the state of Hawaii. He contends it’s not proof of Obama’s birth in the United States, because it’s merely an “abstract” of the original document on file. Lakin through his lawyer, is demanding to see the original document.
Jensen couldn’t explain Obama’s two birth notices in local Hawaii newspapers. And he refuses to accept the determination made by the Republican governor of Hawaii, who examined the original birth certificate on file, declaring it valid.
Despite all of the evidence to the contrary, Jensen falsely declared there was “mounting evidence” that Obama is an illegal alien.
When Cooper asked Lakin if he believes that all members of the military from Hawaii are also illegal aliens and not eligible to serve, he mumbled something about the President being required to be a “natural born citizen”
After Jensen continued to jump in with his birther conspiracy theories, Cooper asked: “Can the colonel not talk for himself? The guy’s an adult.”
Finally, Lakin offered a general response, explaining why he is subjecting himself to a court martial:
“It’s a fundamental of the Constitution, and my oath of office is to the Constitution, and I believe we need truth on this matter.”
The remainder of the interview is being shown tonight. What a truly sad and pathetic spectacle.
(VIDEO AT LINK)
I accept your resignation. Every man must understand his limitations.
I'll add yours to the pile of other After-Birther scalps collected here.
Now be gone ... maybe you'll have better luck over at Politijab or DU.
Who the hell is “Sue” at the Chattabox and why is her blabbering important?
Just don’t claim to be a Christian while you hate your fellow man.
“9 Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness. 10 Whoever loves his brother abides in the light, and in him there is no cause for stumbling. 11 But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.”
1 John 2
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> None of the people mentioned have EVER suggested that Obama is > disqualified by his father’s citizenship. None. Ever. First of all, they are not talking about Obama Sr’s citizenship, ESPECIALLY James Orengo’s quote. Second of all, JUST LIKE YOU, they all falsely assume that neither Obama Jr's birthplace, nor his status as a British subject, is an issue in regards to how the Framers viewed “natural-born Citizen.” > You act as though folks didn’t know this BEFORE the election! The MSM focused on the COLB itself, not Obama Jr's status born as a British subject. If you can find examples of the MSM truly probing this question before the election, please post them. |
Is an Indiana state court in any way a federal court? Then what was your point other than disinformation?
Try this on for size:
“let he who is without sin cast the first stone” — John 8:7
So, keep your fake piety to yourself. You're embarrassing yourself. "Religious Guilt" works as poorly here as does "White Guilt".
We're quite aware of your tactics and tricks ... which is what scares you the most.
Now that all of your feeble attempts at "Religious Guilt" have been thwarted ... please Sister Mary Rogers ... STFU.
The poster in question spews hate, and yet he also claims to be a Christian and has lots of stuff on his home page about being saved.
I find it contradictory. Just about everyone who posts regularly will lose their temper at times, but he seems to do little else - and has no regrets for the hate he writes.
So yes, I’m calling him (or her) on it. Why?
“12For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? 13God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”
Someone who publicly claims to be a Christian but delights in despising others and calling them names, and saying, “After reading your obamanoid sycophantic crapfest at FR for the past three days, I wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire” needs to repent.
After all, would you kiss your mother with a mouth like that?
No, state courts are not federal courts. They ruled on a lawsuit saying Obama had improperly been placed on the ballot, and ruled IAW SCOTUS arguments and rulings.
The Supreme Court could have taken a case before Obama was sworn in, but declined to do so.
I would also note that any state legislature COULD pass a law defining NBC as requiring 2 citizen parents, and that would force a court case - but no state legislature will do so. Ever wonder why?
Tossing the word 'hate' around is another hallmark of you fake piety scum. It is straight out of Alinsky's Rules For Radicals. You're just a run of the mill dishonest obamanoid sycophant. I don't waste the energy to hate soemthing like you.
I find you disgusting, but like some disgusting sludge in the gutter along the street, I just avoid the filth. But you can keep trying to draw attention to yourself in the hope that you will change my mind and I will come down on you with both feet. Not going to happen though, slug. You aren't worth it, especially when you're doing such a great job exposing yourself for the fraud you are.
BP2, joe, do ya suppose Axelgreasy is handing out bonuses for netizens who use more than one Alinsky tactic? Bwahahaha ... maybe the grease spot is trying to fix their overuse of the fallacy of the undistributed middle.
So you’re going to ignore the Arizona House’s attempt to make candidates (not just Mr. Obama, but all of them) to prove their eligibility for the White House.
A few people have been on Death row that have sued the state for wrongful conviction. They were found guilty as well, but were then released and compensated.
A court of law is used to find justice. Until its over, it ain't over. You and I do not know where this will go.
I remember Paula Jones coming out of the closet a few months after Clinton got elected. If I said she would force issues that would end in impeachment, conventional wisdom would declare me insane. But that is what happened.
Suppose Laken finds a sympathetic civil Judge in California who allows discovery? Suppose that Judge then orders Occidental to provide all documentation on Obama, and then they find he applied as a foreign national?
This is why people settle out of court. You never know where a legal matter will end. You and I do not know what Mr. Lakens attorney is planning, and what cards he holds.
The other problem is, Obamas original BC is the DNA of his birth. The nexus of his claim to the presidency and his NBC status. Until that comes out, I believe it is morally wrong to convict or punish any man who questions his citizenship. I am not alone in this and would not be surprised to see a civil or military Judge defend Mr. Laken and demand Obamas documents. Even in this military trial.
Oh yes, I could be wrong .... but every week there are more birthers than there were the week before. A conviction of Mr. Laken may very well create greater demand for documents. We will see.
Why? I’ll tell you why.
Because the thing Liberals like you hate (and fear) the most is when Christians fight back.
Happy to disappoint you ;)
“So you’re going to ignore the Arizona House’s attempt to make candidates (not just Mr. Obama, but all of them) to prove their eligibility for the White House.”
Not hardly. As I’ve pointed out before, I support that law even if it is very mild. The law makes NO ATTEMPT to define NBC. Under it, Obama could produce his COLB and that would be that.
To force a court case, a state needs to DEFINE NBC in a way contrary to Indiana’s courts. With two different standards for getting on the ballot, the federal courts would HAVE to rule on what NBC means...except NO legislature has done so.
Not Arizona. Not Utah. No one. Think about why that is.
“My being a Christian doesn’t mean I have to be tolerant toward scum like you.”
You have a unique view of Christianity.
“28 And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him, “Which commandment is the most important of all?” 29Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” 32And the scribe said to him, “You are right, Teacher. You have truly said that he is one, and there is no other besides him. 33And to love him with all the heart and with all the understanding and with all the strength, and to love one’s neighbor as oneself, is much more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.” 34And when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.”
Mark 12
Your posting history shows you serve the father of lies. You’re not my neighbor, shill. Did you know that the Bible states there are things God hates? ... Your posts remind me of the disgusting faux christian, Barry Lynn.
Tell you what...let’s let anyone reading this thread decide for themselves who is on what side. I think you’ve clarified the situation for all with eyes to see.
I doubt your obsessive behavior will change any time soon. Keep posting, pondscum. Your false piety is an interesting study. But know this: you and your ilk will not shut up Christians by your using the rules for radicals methodology. We are under no Christian obligation to be tolerant of such as you when you serve the father of lies. Have a nice day ...
> You have a unique view of Christianity.
What the hell are you looking for, Mr Rogers — a hug?!
You need to grow up and get a thicker skin.
IMO, MHGinTN is being rather kind and generous.
If I posted the full extent of my disdain for you and your ilk,
the profanity and colorful metaphors would make even Rev Wright blush!
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