Posted on 01/15/2010 10:14:44 AM PST by Bigtigermike
In the latest to come out of D.C.s backroom health care deals, President Obama yesterday cut a doozy of a deal with labor union bosses. The feds health care plan must be so bad that even union bosses had to go to D.C. to say they wanted out. So... to keep their support for a flawed plan they got an exemption to provisions in the deal that others did not. Small business owners, our families running Americas mom & pops, did not get this deal. Ask yourself: why did union bosses get special treatment? And when did our countrys unions get on the wrong track with moves like this that hurt their good members and put them in such a bad light?
Good hard-working, pro-free-market, pro-America union members should join in opposition to their union bosses sweetheart deal. Coming from a union background and living in a world with many union memberships among my family and friends, I know that average members will be embarrassed by their bosses deal, which basically only delays the heavy tax on their health care plans until 2018 and in the meantime unfairly leaves many fellow Americans in a much less enviable position.
Union members dont want to stick it to non-union colleagues in the private and public sector. Their union leadership is not helping them in the long run, theyre certainly not helping the rest of America, and unfortunately some union bosses are making all union members look bad, selfish, and anti-business with this Big Government backroom deal.
You were more right with that comment than you could imagine.
She is an American in whose integrity will not be compromised.
Where are DeMint, Hunter, Huckabee, Romney and Pawlenty?
We all know the answer to that.
The GOP knows whats in store for them in the coming months.They are angry frustrated and they know change is coming! Her popularity is enormous and she will bring the teaparty, independents, disgusted conservative Republicans, liberatarins and conservative democrates to the doorstep of the GOP and not have to say a word. I think it’s not so much that she wants to be president as much as she wants CHANGE like we all do. It’s coming GOP better you prepare get on board or loose your party.
This is about control and a power grab. We are the pawns and dispensable, right now we are valuable to them and they need us, much like the Russian revolution. What happeneds when they allow illegal immigration and our wonderful trustworthy unions accept these illegals with open arms? It’s piss on you, here are your wages and government run healthcare while these creeps live the elitist life style on our hard earned union dues! Like the corrections needed in DC so goes the corrections and demands we must make to our unions to serve America like she has served us!
Perhaps she’s not the one missing the deeper view here. What Sarah is doing here is starting to rebuild Ronald Reagan’s coalition. She’s calling the Reagan Democrats to come back into the fold.
She doesn’t want to slam the Obama admin too hard in this kind of post, because many of the people she is appealing to here voted for him. Now they may have buyers’ remorse, but hitting Obama too hard in this kind of appeal could be seen by the people it is designed for as an attack on *them*
She has, and will continue to, pick Obama apart in many posts. This just isn’t one in which it works to her advantage.
The big picture here is one of Reagan’s coalition rebuilding, and she has her eyes focused on the prize.
- JP
Not just honest analysis, no analysis, now compare that with the nitpicking on Palin.
“The big picture here is one of Reagans coalition rebuilding, and she has her eyes focused on the prize”
Bears repeating. You nailed it exactly.
When she was on the Beck show, he asked her about illegal immigration. She could have repeated the red meat answer, which she has done numerous times since the election. But she stressed legal immigration and how America was built with hard-working immigrants.
She is emulating Reagan, who we conservatives forget was always upbeat and positive about America.
Conservatives have been beaten down and have an inferiority complex right now and feel the need to have politicians repeat stuff over and over as if they need to hear it over andover to believe it lol.
Palin has a gameplan modeled on Reagan (no haters she is not Reagan)...but she is much smarter than people give her credit for and is a step ahead of the libs, the media, and even conservatives.
your criticism of SP is interesting...
what did Newt, Steele, Mitt, Huck, Pawlenty all say on their facebooks or email or whatever about this issue?
did they “whiff” too?
I am verrry disappointed/sarc off lol
Pointing out that the "health care" bill as a whole is unconstitutional would be counterproductive, since the people who she's trying to reach have deep-seated beliefs that:
That having been said, it might have been useful to make limited mention of the constitutional issues regarding the union exemption thusly: a court may not take kindly to exempting unions from taxes that everyone else would have to pay, and might respond by saying that everyone--including unions--must pay the tax. Unions who support the bill because it contains an exemption for them may well discover that they're not exempt after all--not even temporarily.
This is exactly what I have been saying throughout this thread.
The Facebook entry was about the union exemption and my response was about the union exemption. I have never made any mention of the entire health care bill being unconstitutional, and no one should.
This was (and still is) a chance to point to a specific issue that is a slam-dunk for unconstitutionality. It points to Obama's colossal disregard for our system of government, and it illustrates the precise reason for that portion of the 14th amendment: so the government can't make a law that is for some people and not others.
The only reason the people Ms. Palin is trying to reach would even care about unconstitutionality would be the danger that a court might make the unions pay the same as everyone else. Otherwise such people would view unconstitutionality as a bonus.
Because you were snarky about it claiming that Sarah doesn't sometimes see the "deep view".
I think Palin is right on the money with attacking the Health Bill in its entirety.
By going after the details of say, union exemption of taxes as being unconstitutional, you are merely tinkering with the bill and even if you win, it merely leads to another amendment to fix that aspect.
Sorry guys, you are missing the point here...Palin is saying the bill is should be scrapped and the goal is to poliltically and legislatively kill it. The unconstitutional aspect of the overall bill is but one attack on it...it also fails the feasibility test and efficiency test.
Palin is right on the money.
That is why the Libtards use the word “reform”. After all, what’s wrong with trying to reform something? Words mean something, and the Libtards change them to suit their agenda.
Remember, murdering the Unborn isn’t Abortion, it’s Choice.
There were a few other responses and I tend to agree with them. In once instance she plainly said that it was unconstitutional. Here, she just says unfair.
I think that the difference is in the audience. The first audience was mostly conservative and relates well with constitutionality. The second was a more general audience and fairness is something that they can more easily relate to.
Snark or no snark, I believe it to be true.
I didn't realize until today that posting anything other than praise for Sarah was not recommended on FR.
But she has never specifically said why. This union exemption issue is a chance to do exactly that.
Nuance.
We who care about the Constitution know why it is unconstitutional. Those who don’t know, don’t care.
But by appealing to fairness and how what the union leadership is doing and how it makes the rank and file look is a good way to get the attention of most people.
When people understand that being ‘unfair’ makes it unconstitutional, the lesson is complete. Too much info can overwhelm the 30 minute sitcom mentality. Little bits at a time will bear more fruit.
I get what you are saying. But everyone knows that the Bill of Rights were written and approved to ensure a basic fairness.
Something that's unfair isn't necessarily unconstitutional of course. But the 14th amendment is specific about the keeping the government from making a law for some people and not others.
I just wish she would have pointed it out in her discussion of the union exemption. Maybe she still will. Certainly others will if this debacle passes.
She knows they're going to trash her anyway, so what's the downside to speaking out?
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