Posted on 09/27/2009 8:12:50 AM PDT by Danae
The UIPA at 92F-3 explicitly defines government records as follows:
Government record means information maintained by an agency in written, auditory, visual, electronic, or other physical form.
When a state agency in Hawaii is faced with a request for government records, the Office of Information Practices Administrative Rules govern all responses to such a request. State agencies may not issue a response which doesnt conform to the OIP Administrative Rules.
Agencies must answer every request for government records within the four following types of response:
1. the agency has the record and will provide it to you
2. the agency does not maintain/possess the record
3. the agency has the record but you are denied access to it
4. the agency needs more information from you to understand your request
These are examples of the four basic responses available to a state agency. For example, an agency may not tell a person that the agency refuses to say whether they possess a certain record.
This very issue was discussed in OIP Opinion Letter 97-08, wherein a staff attorney for the Corporation Counsel was faced with a UIPA request concerning a legal memo. The staff attorney refused to acknowledge whether the legal memo existed by citing attorney client privilege.
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Thanks for the ping.
I read all of the comments to the linked article.
One interesting reference was to “The Cuckoo’s Egg: Tracking a Spy Through the Maze of Computer Espionage” by Cliff Stoll. A computer scientist at Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory stumbled upon a great espionage plot (West German hacker attempting to hack U.S. military computers and sell secrets to the KGB) through a 75-cent accounting error (discovered through logs of computer time use). The comparison is made: the fabric is beginning to unravel.
I hope we will soon reach this saturation point.
WHOO HOO! Thanks for that update. I searched Indystar and was able to read up a bit.
Good job by the state of Indiana. They need to stay on these rats because they will turn up in another Obama/SEIU front group.
Where are other Republican governors like Charlie Crist in FL? He has a Repub attorney general in Bill McCollum who is a conservative. The FL state police - FDLE is pretty good at busting corrupt politicians too. they should be all over ACORN. Ditto other states.
LOL! I think Leo and TerriK are also pitbulls. Terri K is not going to take no from the corrupt pols in Hawaii. HI is looking like a totally corrupt toilet.
It goes pretty deep thats fer sur!
I am going to go through Leo’s blog tonight but does anyone know ir Leo/TerriK have the right to access the whole fiel now or just the changes?
I think there is a man now (Crawford or something) who has also been requesting docs in HI. I wonder what we can do to help Leo and TerriK?
Great, Dingy is Toast. Come January 2011, I’m looking for a lost of post toasties. ;-)
bfl
I hope this line of attack by Leo works.
But it is not clear to me that the OIP is going to enforce the UIPA requests. Then this can go to a court. But why should we think that a judge will even hear the case.
SCOTUS has refused to address the NBC issue directly when they know that there is real question.
Obama appears to be above the law.
I think Leo has said that the state statutes specifically say the documents have to be released. I wonder if he just gets the changes or the full file. Also can the state redact the files with a black magic marker.
The state has to. Its the law. It cannot be used as both sword and shield as Terry put it. A lawyer for a company can’t say well this other company is guilty of XYZ but I can’t release the information that proves it because of attorney client privilege, you just have to trust me on that. That sort of thing does not fly with the courts.
My reading of what Leo has posted is that the DoH should (is supposed to) provide the index data and state whether an amendment to BHO birth records exist.
He is banking on the DoH actually correctly following the procedures or being forced to do so.
I do not think Leo thinks he can get a long form birth certificate out of the DoH with this method.
There is a possibility that since the COLB has been made public that Obama lost rights to claim that data as private.
But if they go after Maya’s index data that would prove that someone born in another country could obtain a COLB from Hawaii.
Great question - no doubt ZERO will do whatever is required to hide OR destroy the information.
Thanks. I hope I can understand the legal language. I am in many ways a dolt.
I hope that you are right.
So far Obama has used the law as a sword to force open the seal on his Senate opponent’s divorce records and a shield to keep all of his records sealed up tighter than a drum.
My daughter worked for them for a few years.
Crist is a whole other story however.
Bumperoo!
In case you missed any of these.
Some repeats (usually embellished) you may have seen and also new material. The Looking for a Hero is great.
Note: noiri provides the permalink to these articles and stands for No Islamic Regime (in) Iran
MUST VIEW/LISTEN VIDEO. Inspirational on Iran. LOOKING FOR A HERO.
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/looking-for-hero.html
COMPARE two presidents view on Iran (two videos together)
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/compare-bush-for-people-oba-hussein-for.html
OBAMA RECORDS IN HAWAII New legal activity
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/access-to-records-in-hawaii-heating-up.html
DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE only Certified Obama in ONE State (Hawaii) NOT the OTHER 49
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-was-only-certified-as-eligible-by.html
HOW OBAMA CONFRONTS IRAN
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/oba-hussein-i-shaved-my-legs-for-this.html
BRAIN WASHING IN SCHOOLS
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/maos-china-hitlers-germany-stalins.html
FAIL TO BUY HEALTH CARE Go to Jail!
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/09/fail-to-buy-health-insurance-go-to-jail.html
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