Posted on 01/20/2009 5:14:39 AM PST by PurpleMountains
In my opinion, the cultural war between secular-progressives and traditional Americans will become a violent, bloody war if the Democrats in Congress try to criminalize policy differences by trying to punish members of the Bush Administration for attempting (and succeeding) to protect American lives. Obama isn’t saying much, although he appointed Holder, but Pelosi, Conyers, Reid, Holder and others are mouthing some very dangerous thoughts. As a minimum, practices that were originated by Carter and Clinton and merely continued by the Bush Administration (such as rendition and warrantless wiretapping) will be given much publicity, and, beyond that, some of us will be forced to support some violent people we normally shun and despise.
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However, when some fairly high up officials start talking about repealing term limits, organizing a national "civilian defense" corps, a new declaration of independence, nationalizing health care and every other industry they can get their fingers into, disarming the citizens, redistributing or "spreading the wealth," rampant secularism ...
That all sounds very, very socialist and unconstitutional to me. So yes, it may be crazy to be talking about it - now. But it certainly isn't insane to have the idea tickling the back of your mind. Just how much are you willing to let this country slide towards looking like East Germany in the 1970s?
I seriously doubt it will ever come to physical violence, but there is definitely going to be a clash of ideals in the next 4 years. Our "dear leaders" need to be reminded that they serve us, and serve at our pleasure. Anyone voted in can be voted out again. And while they may feel safe and secure with their few percentage point margin, that can change awfully quickly.
This is the age of the internet, the connected world. If (when, or "as") they screw up, we have to make sure our message gets out there and everyone sees the un-spun truth about their fiascoes. That is really our job. Not a civil-war revolution, but a revolution in thought and education. We know, we know the people that voted for Obama, Pelosi, and crew made a terrible mistake. We don't need guns and fighting in the streets to right that, we need information and bandwidth. The socialists will hang themselves.
When you account for vote fraud I'd be willing to bet that Obama actually lost.
However, 53% of the vote is not "pretty big." Not only that, but how many of those Obama voters are having buyer's remorse (I know at least one - there are certainly more out there).
Most of the country that is hoping for big things from Obama is proof that you can, indeed, fool most of the people most of the time.
Nope. If 0bama punishes Bush, he’ll leave himself open. Remember...he’s keeping many of the Bush policies intact that he could be punished for.”
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But he won’t be punished for anything. Remember that the rules don’t apply to him. We’ve already seen that. obama can do anything he wants and his cheerleaders will just - cheer.
The war crimes idea was floated during the campaign. Will obama do it? Probably not until he’s assured that he has the majority of the country on his side.
Total insanity has already taken over. Anyone not realizing this at this point in time is living in denial.
With the abrogation of the Constitutional contract today, as a Subpreme court judges swears in an affiramtive action fraud and knows he’s swearing in a likely ineligible ‘president-elect’, you won’t have long to wait to see the federal oligarchy spring into action. Democrats will never relinquish power again, and every crisis is their tool ... Rambo Emanuel has told US that already.
Your numbers are incorrect. Here are the correct numbers:
Popular vote: 69,456,897 to 59,934,786
Percentage: 52.9% to 45.7%
OK, 53-46.
Still not “pretty big”.
If Obama won 53% of the vote, then he did NOT win 47% of the vote. Some folks may not have voted for McCain, but you’re kinda missing the point if you look at the numbers in that way.
Sure it is. Absolutely. Are you joking?
It was the largest margin of popular vote victory by an non-incumbent in the nations history dude.
Uh...what?
I’m glad you agree with my premise, but 53% is huge by election standards. It was the largest NON-incumbent margin in U.S. history.
He did lose pretty big. And who is talking about catering to the middle?
I am talking about ending the raving-right-wing-moon-bat ravings of a 2nd CW. That makes us look as lunatic as the libs.
Ya know, I had hoped this neo-Confederate, pedantic argument would NOT have come up.
You’re wrong, but you won’t admit it and you’re not going to change my mind or drag me into yet another HOPLESS discussion of semantics over a war that happened over 100 years ago.
No way he lost even with vote fraud. It was not 6% pts big.
And he did win big. See my other comments.
All of this is besides the point. The point is to stop with the “We’s gonna has us a 2nd civil war! Ye haw!” moonbattery. It’s not going to help us.
You're right about the “a-hole”, though.
Get ready Heartland, USA. Those trendy urbanites need to eat. The guy at the head of the dinner table is not going to tell them to "make bread"; he is going to tell you to pass your breadbasket to them.
When it comes time to settle up, you are going to get the check because, after all, it was your bread. Adding insult to injury, he's then going to point out to you that your basket is empty and you really do need to be more productive because, after all, people are depending upon on you. ;)
Just how this happened looks pretty clear to me. Click the map below for the larger version:
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/red_election_map/2008/11/11/150126.html
Simple, it is not your place to tell others what to think or believe, that is now the work of the State. Before now it was a right that was fought for by men known as Free. We have always been at war with Oceania!
If a second civil war is to come, it won't be conservatives who start it. We may respond by taking up arms, but it will be exactly that, a response.
Oh. How profound. Orwell and all.
You’re a genius. Hey, I bet you NEVER express an opinion here huh?
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