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Bush's master stroke: In Harriet Miers, he has nominated the anti-Earl Warren
Various ^ | October 3, 2005 | nwrep

Posted on 10/03/2005 6:51:30 PM PDT by nwrep

In nominating a fundamentalist, literalist, evangelical Christian without a judicial trail, President Bush may have pulled off what could well be conservative response to Earl Warren.

In Harriet Miers, an avowed born-again Christian and faithful member of a Dallas conservative congregation for 25 years, social conservatives have the ultimate prize - namely, a Christian activist on the nation's highest court.

In reaching this conclusion, one need not look beyond the socio-political makeup of the contemporary protestant evangelical denominations. On issue after issue, their value system and belief structure is completely and irreconcilably at odds with the prevailing liberal dogma.

From the literalist interpretation of Biblical events like creation, to the young earth theory, to Intelligent Design, to absolutist positions on sodomy and homosexuality, to strongly patriotic and originalist beliefs, to the belief in "American exceptionalism", to the love of guns, and so on, you could, with very high certainty, establish the conservative credentials of someone who is a fundamentalist Christian today.

That is not to say that exceptions exist even within such congregations, and not everyone agrees with these views with equal fervor. But there can be no doubt that someone who has felt comfortable within such a denomination for 25 years would be very comfortable with this set of values.

With Harriet Miers, the President has delivered a double whammy to the left - a conservative evangelical, and an individual without a judicial paper trail.

I believe that if you are a social conservative who wants decades of liberal judicial influences peeled back, Harriet Miers is a great start, and President Bush deserves praise.


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To: frogjerk; HangnJudge; dirtboy

Interesting how three people take the statement, “No, not ‘must,’ but the question should be asked,” and seem to read it as “believe,” “assume,” and “seriously believe.”

If a person had no other information, he could still make a pretty good guess as to which side of the “SSAD is wonderful!” / “No, it isn’t” debate is on the side of rationality just by watching the reactions of the partisans.

“Why would you believe her to be a lesbian if she is a born-again Christian active in her church for 25 years? This makes no sense at best and is a horrible slur against the woman at best...”

(1) Lots of people who suffer from SSAD attend church.
(2) When a woman reaches 60 without marrying, it makes a lot of sense to ask the question.
(3) Asking a question is not a slur.

“I guess we should assume that nuns are lesbians as well.”

(1) Nuns are married to Christ.
(2) So far as I know, Miers has not taken religious vows that would bar marriage.

“Do you seriously believe she can't be good person, competent, energetic, intelligent, insightful, diligent, but not married?”

(1) I haven’t expressed any “serious belief” in this matter.
(2) Do you seriously believe someone can't be a good person, competent, energetic, intelligent, insightful, diligent, but still unfit for high office by reason of same-sex attraction disorder?


121 posted on 10/03/2005 7:34:55 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Larry Lucido

Sorry I called you a ding bat. %;9)


122 posted on 10/03/2005 7:35:31 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: nwrep
Notice that "W" has had two SC nominations and neither one has gone to an Episcopalean.

The days when the Anglican Commune controlled the courts would seem to be over.

123 posted on 10/03/2005 7:35:45 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again? How'bout a double sarcasm for this one)
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To: nwrep
Pure genius!

:)

124 posted on 10/03/2005 7:36:36 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Jorge
Who made you the judge of who is or isn't a born again Christian?

There is only one judge of who is or is not a Christian, of what is really in someone's heart, and it isn't me. I can, however, make judgments based on someones behavior.

Bill Clinton claimed to be a Christian and made sure to carry a bible around and get photographed coming out of church Sunday afternoons. Bill Clinton is a sexual deviant, and an utterly despicable human being. Jimmy Carter talks a lot about his Christianity. Jimmy Carter supports and defends communist dictators. Wasn't there some Christian named Jim Jones?

I don't listen to what they say, I watch what they do and I make judgments about their character accordingly.
125 posted on 10/03/2005 7:36:45 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!)
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To: dirtboy
So we have to look at other things. Like what those who know her says she believes.

Her pastor says she will take an originalist approach. Others have said she takes a rigorous approach to the law. Both speak better of her temperment than any Ivy League pedigree, which IMO teaches arrogance.

Please. Is her pastor a Con Law Prof? Call me old fashioned, but I prefer a paper trail. Bush promised me Scalia/Thomas and gave me "trust me".

126 posted on 10/03/2005 7:37:52 PM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: Callahan

best post on FR today.


127 posted on 10/03/2005 7:38:49 PM PDT by Annie5622
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To: Right Wing Professor
ut she goes to the right church.

Isn't she a United Methodist? As one myself, I've been extremely disappointed at the direction the UMC has taken in the last decade or so. Certainly not what I'd call "conservative" or "fundamentalist"...

128 posted on 10/03/2005 7:38:54 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: jra
No, I don't want a justice who plans to go to DC to 'roll back' the lib influence. I want a justice whose goal is to uphold the Constitution.

Well in order to uphold the Constitution I would think the libs influence would be rolled back

129 posted on 10/03/2005 7:42:22 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take it away)
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To: Callahan

Certainly gotten to be that way anymore, hasn't it. Way too much "ok, fine, I'll never vote republican again" talk.


130 posted on 10/03/2005 7:42:26 PM PDT by Annie5622
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To: pwatson
Tommy: Umm, let's say your driving along the road with your family and your driving along, lay le lay, woo whoo, Then all of a sudden there a truck tire in the middle of the road. And you hit the brakes EERRRRRGGGHH! Whoa. That was close. Hah ha! Now, lets see what happens when your driving with the "other guys brake pads". Your driving along, your driving along and all of sudden the kids are yelling from the back seat, "I gotta go the bathroom daddy." Not now damnit! Truck tire. Errrragggghhh! I can't stop! [smashes a model car on desk] There's a cliff. Ahhhhh! And your familys screaming, "Ohh my god we're burning alive! No, I can't feel my legs!" Here comes the meat wagon. WE-OH! WE-OH! WE-OH! And the medic get's out and says, "Ohh my god." New guy is in the corner puking his guts out. All because you wanna save a couple extra pennies.

I just want good brake pads. Is that ok? I'm of the mind that it's ok to read the box before I buy.

Sure, I could just buy the brake pads without reading the box.....

CCCCCCCrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaash

131 posted on 10/03/2005 7:43:04 PM PDT by ottersnot (Kill a commie for your mommie....Johnnie Ramone. American Rocker and patriot)
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To: dfrussell
While being a "born-again Christian" shouldn't be a bar (no pun intended) to being on the SCOTUS, it certainly shouldn't be considered a qualification for the job.
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports . . . .

In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens . . . .

[R]eason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle." (President George Washington, September 17, 1796).


132 posted on 10/03/2005 7:43:09 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: IVote2
"W" has CONSISTENTLY out-Thought the 'Dems.

The Rest of us just Haven't been smart enough to understand "W's" Moves.

Doc

133 posted on 10/03/2005 7:44:43 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: jimboster
"I have faith in the President. I just can't believe he sold out. Deep in my soul, I believe Harriet is another Clarence Thomas."

I hope she is another Clarence Thomas!!! I can only hope!

134 posted on 10/03/2005 7:47:46 PM PDT by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Kay Ludlow
Isn't she a United Methodist? As one myself, I've been extremely disappointed at the direction the UMC has taken in the last decade or so. Certainly not what I'd call "conservative" or "fundamentalist"...

The United Methodist Church is pro-choice.

135 posted on 10/03/2005 7:49:13 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Al Simmons

"Ummm.. friend, you are about 15 years too late...we already got one on there..."

Ginsberg?


136 posted on 10/03/2005 7:50:00 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Gone_Postal

BINGO!!


137 posted on 10/03/2005 7:50:30 PM PDT by Annie5622
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To: Callahan

Thanks for the update. That explains it quite well.


138 posted on 10/03/2005 7:52:12 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Callahan
She's not married either. She MUST be a lesbian. I bet she's been a spy for Hillary all these years. Hell, maybe she's secretly dating Hillary.


Very very sick thinking!
Same as you would say that Mother Theressa was a lesbian!! Your statement makes me vomit!!!
139 posted on 10/03/2005 7:54:25 PM PDT by danamco
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To: nwrep

She's a born again and Jimmie Carter hates her guts???? Progress, progress, progress.


140 posted on 10/03/2005 7:54:41 PM PDT by Waco
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