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Bush's master stroke: In Harriet Miers, he has nominated the anti-Earl Warren
Various ^ | October 3, 2005 | nwrep

Posted on 10/03/2005 6:51:30 PM PDT by nwrep

In nominating a fundamentalist, literalist, evangelical Christian without a judicial trail, President Bush may have pulled off what could well be conservative response to Earl Warren.

In Harriet Miers, an avowed born-again Christian and faithful member of a Dallas conservative congregation for 25 years, social conservatives have the ultimate prize - namely, a Christian activist on the nation's highest court.

In reaching this conclusion, one need not look beyond the socio-political makeup of the contemporary protestant evangelical denominations. On issue after issue, their value system and belief structure is completely and irreconcilably at odds with the prevailing liberal dogma.

From the literalist interpretation of Biblical events like creation, to the young earth theory, to Intelligent Design, to absolutist positions on sodomy and homosexuality, to strongly patriotic and originalist beliefs, to the belief in "American exceptionalism", to the love of guns, and so on, you could, with very high certainty, establish the conservative credentials of someone who is a fundamentalist Christian today.

That is not to say that exceptions exist even within such congregations, and not everyone agrees with these views with equal fervor. But there can be no doubt that someone who has felt comfortable within such a denomination for 25 years would be very comfortable with this set of values.

With Harriet Miers, the President has delivered a double whammy to the left - a conservative evangelical, and an individual without a judicial paper trail.

I believe that if you are a social conservative who wants decades of liberal judicial influences peeled back, Harriet Miers is a great start, and President Bush deserves praise.


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To: TWohlford
yes, but Carter wasn't and that was obvious.

That's why I say TRULY born again. Many American's say they are Christians, but do the really follow Christ?

21 posted on 10/03/2005 7:01:36 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: nwrep

Two things:

What's the difference between a Christian and a Christian activist?

No, I don't want a justice who plans to go to DC to 'roll back' the lib influence. I want a justice whose goal is to uphold the Constitution.


22 posted on 10/03/2005 7:01:37 PM PDT by jra
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic

Jimmy Carter said he was a born again Christian!


23 posted on 10/03/2005 7:01:40 PM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: nwrep; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; dixiechick2000


ping


24 posted on 10/03/2005 7:01:40 PM PDT by devolve (----------- ( -- under deconstruction -- ) -----------)
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To: TWohlford

Strong religious belief without a brain is a dangerous thing as with Jimmah. Not the case with Bush.


25 posted on 10/03/2005 7:02:08 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: AntiGuv

boy, a lot of "I think miers is peachy keen if bush says she's peachy keen" vanities going on today.


26 posted on 10/03/2005 7:02:13 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: dirtboy
If Miers is a third-tier lawyer who holds onto a quant notion that words have a specific meaning, isn't that friggin' better than a Harvard-educated lawyer and judge who believes that words mean what he wants them to mean?

The meaning they have now, or in 1789? Does she know what they meant in 1789? Does 'well-regulated' mean now what it meant in 1789?

27 posted on 10/03/2005 7:02:22 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: nwrep

Wasn't Bill Clinton a member of a conservative born-again baptist congregation?


28 posted on 10/03/2005 7:02:37 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: indianrightwinger
Yes it is indeed serious business - and IMHO apparently far to many here of FR seem to had lept to the conclusion that Bush is either:

A) Unaware of the serious nature of the Supreme Court as his lasting legacy to history, and is thus just pandering to immediate politics?

OR

B) Too shell-shocked from Katrina and Rita to exercise competent judgement?
29 posted on 10/03/2005 7:03:27 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: jimboster
"Bush knows her. Bush cares about the Court. I refuse to believe he sold out. Bush did the right thing."

Are you sure you are on the right Forum site? FR has been freaking out all day. LOL I agree with you, I think there is a purpose here. I may not agree with the President 100% on everything, but he has shown a good reliable record of judicial nominations. My personal thoughts are he picked someone he knew that would uphold the constitution, and someone that could survive the cowardly RINO's in the Senate if there was a challange.

30 posted on 10/03/2005 7:03:35 PM PDT by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Ditter
Is there a Mr. Miers?

No. She has never been married.

31 posted on 10/03/2005 7:03:48 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: nwrep

I notice this woman was a math major as an undergrad. That's something you have to like; it takes her out of the normal inbred fraternity of lawyers and guarantees she's significantly brighter than most of them.


32 posted on 10/03/2005 7:03:54 PM PDT by tamalejoe
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To: nwrep
One would think a conservative, fundamentalist Christian would oppose gay adoption, though. Yet, Miers supported it:

From the New Republic:

http://www.tnr.com/etc.mhtml?pid=2832

For instance economic conservatives pleased by her corporate law background may find it distressing that in 1990 Miers voted for a 7 percent property tax increase during her short tenure on the Dallas City Council. And Miers's long affiliation with the ABA will serve up lots of interesting tidbits that are unlikely to please social and legal conservatives. For instance, she apparently submitted the following report to the ABA's House of Delegates. Here are two of the report's recommendations:

Supports the enactment of laws and public policy which provide that sexual orientation shall not be a bar to adoption when the adoption is determined to be in the best interest of the child. ...

Recommends the development and establishment of an International Criminal Court.

33 posted on 10/03/2005 7:03:59 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: nwrep

The Donner Party folks are not going to like this......


34 posted on 10/03/2005 7:04:22 PM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: Judith Anne

NO, no, no! We're having too much fun bashing the President for not fulfilling our judicial smackdown fantasies. Harriet Mier has spent the last 25 years defending George W. Bush to the death, just so she could sneak on the high court and turn into Ruth Bader Ginsburg. As the woman who led the vetting committee that gave us Estrada, Rogers Brown, Owens and Roberts, she has no idea how to formulate conservative legal opinions. Her main qualification is that she has been a loyal Bush supporter, which is normally a good thing, but not any more.


35 posted on 10/03/2005 7:04:28 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: dirtboy

"How many times on FR have Freepers with a lay background made more sense than the highly qualified judges issuing rulings?"

How many times on free republic who freepers who call themselves 'christians' utter socialist drivel because they say that's what is in the bible?

A supreme court judge is being appointed to protect and defended the integrity of the constitution, not the bible. THAT should be the standard - their demonstrated and proven views on the correct interpretation of the constitution. Not any other things people wish to gin up.


36 posted on 10/03/2005 7:05:13 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: jra

"No, I don't want a justice who plans to go to DC to 'roll back' the lib influence. I want a justice whose goal is to uphold the Constitution."

Where do those two things differ?


37 posted on 10/03/2005 7:05:40 PM PDT by dsc
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To: TWohlford
'....didn't Jimmah Cartah claim that he was likewise a born-again Christian?....

Not sure about Jimmah....but his sister, Ruth Carter Stapleton, is the genuine article. I have been to Christian retreat camps where she was a featured minister. She is awesome and a true disciple of our Lord.

38 posted on 10/03/2005 7:05:47 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic

This plus what Jay Sekulow said and what Dr.Dobson said has lifted my spirits immensly. I hope the characterization in this post is accurate.


39 posted on 10/03/2005 7:05:56 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Lesforlife
that is why I said if she is truly a born-again believer...
40 posted on 10/03/2005 7:06:01 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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