Posted on 09/30/2004 7:59:58 PM PDT by MNJohnnie
It is unfortunate when people confuse relentlessly negative critical comments as intellectual sophistication. There is this strange fascination with a certain segment of Freepers. They seem to think if they are playing devils advocate ALL the time and making constantly critical comments about their own side, it makes them seem thoughtful and intelligent. Maybe we should have a term for this? Call it "McCainism" A metal defect that requires the victim to constantly critize their own side while NEVER pointing out where the other side blew it. Mccainism does not make you look smart. See REAL intelligence would be to provide some serious BALANCED review not this hysterical "OH WE LOST! IT IS ALL OVER" chicken little screech time after time, post after post.
Mark my words Boy's and Girls, John Kerry just lost the election tonight. Since most who suffer from McCainism seem to be lawyers, I will put it to you in terms you might understand. John Kerry may, or may not, have won the formal debate but he didn't win the Jury. And you people always forget this one fact. The JURY (i.e. The American people), not the Debate coaches decides the election.
John Kerry lost the election tonight people. You heard it here first.
They may be posted in all honesty, but they are YOUR opinions. This does not mean that they are the opinion of others. You have every right to express them.
There was something like a 30-page (I think) booklet of rules for this debate, and it was on foreign policy. That could have been why it was the most controlled one yoy have witnessed. There are still two more debates, probably on domestic issues and the economy, or something, I'm not sure.
I do not put a lot of stock in debates, but I've known since 9-1-1 for whom I was going to vote.
Kerry will pull this race closer. If Bush turns in the same performance in the next debate that he did tonight, he'll be behind coming out of that one.
Listen. Bush simply failed to close the deal tonight. He could have knocked Kerry out, but he didn't.
And Kerry is back in the race. Watch the polls next week.
Stuff your arrogance, newbie. Bush did not do well tonight. You're going to see that in the polls next week.
Kerry didn't seal the deal, but if Bush turns in another mediocre performance in next week's town hall, he will find himself behind.
---And Kerry is back in the race. Watch the polls next week.---
No, Kerry will get pounded on the substance of some of his positions and be forced once again to reverse himself. Kerry put some very scary stuff out there tonight. That said, Bush wasn't impressive.
I think President Bush won re-election a long time ago at the Republican convention. That was the turning point.
I was frustrated that Bush didn't point out the contradiction between Kerry's fixation on not wanting to move on Saddam without a clearance from France and Germany, but wanted to go unilateral with N. Korea. I was frustrated he did not ask whether anyone believed if one believed that Kerry would have carried out his current position on Iraq, that Saddam would not be in power as they spoke, and then mention the cirriculum vitae on Saddam, mass killer, harboring of terrorist, funder of suicide bombers, watching and waiting for his first opportunity to strike the US where it could hurt, and whether he really thought it was prudent just to leave US troops in the sand indefinitely while trying to persuade the unpersuadable. Sad.
What is John Kerrys plan for Iraq?
Don't know do ya?
But I'll bet you know he has a "global test" to pass before America can defend itself, dontcha?
But, on style points, this was Bush's worst performance in the ten years I've watched him.
I think the "global test" thing will provide fodder for campaign ads for Bush. But, if you're looking at this thing in terms of Kerry looking presidential, he put himself back in the race.
I wanted Bush to destroy Kerry tonight, and he simply failed to score any knockout punches.
Apparently sealing the Iraq border will prove to be an easier task than sealing the American border, but then Kerry is going to do that too, and also seal the American border from rogue goods as well, and finance it with repealing the tax cut on the rich, which while he has already "spent" that money elsewhere with other proposals, apparently can with good management spend it once, two, three many times.
The idea that every container coming into the US can be inspected is quite ludicrous. LOL. Bush could have elaborated on that a bit more too, as well as the feasibility of translating every chatter that is out there aeo instante.
Kerry has a plan.
:-}
Cheney has a scalpel.
Rove has a knife.
The RNC is loaded with dough.
Kerry loses in the long run. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
I knew Kerry was bloviating and I knew sooner or later he'd say some stuff that will bite him in the ass.
His demand that we have no forward operating bases in Iraq is irresonsible and by itself should disqualify him from office. It is like saying we should have had no bases in Japan and Germany post WW2.
His call to unilaterally halt the tactical nuke bunker nuster program is reminiscent of his unilateral disarmament bs in the 80's. And his "Global Test" for America defending itself makes him UNFIT FOR COMMAND!
And there you have it as well.
Did ya catch the entire comments by Gen Tommy Fransk on FNC ? Something about Kerry misquoting or lying about something Franks claims he never said etc etc ....??
I only caught part of that ??? Any info help on that ?
Thanks.......
I am sure Franks bristled when Kerry quoted that General with a long name (Shelly (sp) K.) who supports Gore who wanted to flood Iraq with troops. Franks hated that idea, and fashioned his own, where the lean, mean American machine did it with far fewer. And I doubt that General with a long name, was thinking of the flood of troops to keep the peace after the victory.
Franks needs to call a lie a lie if such was made........FNC will give him the face time if JFK told.......another........lie about something Franks said or didn't say about General PITA Eric Shinseki.
Stay safe
Kerry lied about Bush reducing the amount of troops in the Afghan theatre to put them in Iraq. Franks came down on him like a hammer.
By morning, the great minds on this site will analyze the debate. They will discover kerry's misstatements, we will disseminate their findings, and by next Tuesday, Kerry's rating will be in the low forties.
Yep. That was another Bush blunder, not calling Kerry out on the suggestion that the effort in Tora Bora was enervated by Iraq. BS. Maybe the strategy was wrong (trying to minimize the American body count; Bush when in doubt tries to reduce the body count), but it had nothing to do with Iraq.
He didn't make a salient point.
He didn't answer any of Lehrer's inane questions (talk about a partisan)
He didn't have ANY plans.
The American people will not be so stupid as to fall for his BS and he is a traitor!
I realized tonite that the debates don't mean as much as the so called pundits would have us believe. Bush will WIN when it counts!
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