Posted on 04/26/2012 7:54:22 AM PDT by jaydee770
I hear freepers commenting on various voting strategies which include (but are not limited to):
- Not voting for the GOP candidate (presumably Romney at this point)
- Voting for the GOP candidate whoever it is (either *for* GOP or *against* Obama)
- Sitting this one out
- Writing in someone (based on principles or protest)
- That it would somehow be better if Obama is re-elected so conservatives won't be blamed for the inevitable collapse/implosion.
So as difficult as it may be for some, forget about your voting decision for the moment. My question is, "looking ahead to Wednesday, November 7, 2012, what are you going to do then?"
If we are going to do anything to fix the mess we find ourselves in, we will have 4 years until the next presidential election. There should be plenty of lessons-learned from this election regarding tactics, strategy, dirty-dealing and outright fraud on the part of the GOPe, the Dems and the MSM. So what do we do?
Anyone can see problems and obstacles and I'm no different when it comes to finding something to complain about. Here are some of the problems I see (off the top of my head):
- Identify and nominate conservative candidates who can Lead, Unite, Motivate, Sway-Opinions and Dominate a campaign
- Accelerate the growth of the conservative-right
- The GOP primary process is a mess that seems guaranteed to favor RINOs
- The GOP (figuratively speaking) is infested with RINO vermin and needs to be tent-fumigated from top to bottom
- We need a bigger barrel of ink and a louder megaphone than the MSM
- [insert additional issues here]
I readily admit I'm not knowledgeable enough about the "smoky backroom" aspects of political machinery to even pretend to suggest any solutions. Hence, I turn to the F.R. community. It is a rare few that can suggest reasonable, prudent and achievable solutions and I'm open to suggestions.
Totally agree about the primary being all screwed up. Why can’t all states vote on the same day? Why does it have to be so drawn out and only half the states get a say in who will be the nominee? Heck, most folks even called it for Mittens after the first primaries. It’s stupid.
Understandable. My suggestion is that, first, we get Obama out of office with a Republican, regardless. Then, take control of the Senate and get more seats in the House with the right people. The right people is the key. Then we have to control our states. With control of the states, you have control of Congress. By controlling the Congress, you have control over anyone in the Oval Office.
I don't think so. Conservatives just need to come up with a candidate who the vast majority of Republicans see as electable. They didn't do it this time.
I don't think so. Conservatives just need to come up with a candidate who the vast majority of Republicans see as electable. They didn't do it this time.
>>...first, we get Obama out of office with a Republican, regardless...<<
I agree. But I also think that after doing that, we need to go further and start looking for and promoting someone to primary (presumably Romney) *AND* letting anyone and everyone (especially the GOP) know that is our intent.
“Conservatives just need to come up with a candidate who the vast majority of Republicans see as electable. They didn’t do it this time.”
I beg to disagree. There were good candidates who got trashed by Romney/GOP-e money.
Since when did my vote become the exclusive property of the Republican Party and their cohorts ???
>>...Conservatives just need to come up with a candidate who the vast majority of Republicans see as electable...<<
That certainly wouldn’t *hurt*!! But in addition to nominating better candidates, the primary process *clearly* needs to be changed, that much I firmly believe.
I just think a political-right party should start out in political-right states. Run the primarys by state ranking of the historical number of conservatives/republicans elected. States who elect the most conservatives/republicans (combined state & local offices) go first. Or something like that. Make a state *earn* the right to go early. There’s got to be a better way.
1) Voter ID
2) Closed primaries (No registered Democrats or Independents voting for Republicans in primaries).
3) Order the state primaries by percentage of Republican turnout in the last national election. Committed Republican states go first.
>>...Since when did my vote become the exclusive property of the Republican Party and their cohorts ???...<<
I never said it did. Vote for an indy, libertarian, conservative, dem, green-party, Santa Claus, yourself or whoever you like! What I *did* say was: ...forget about your voting decision for the moment. My question is, “looking ahead to Wednesday, November 7, 2012, what are you going to do then?”
Don’t like the two dominant parties? Great! You have four years to do something, *anything*, different. Or not.
I think Voter-ID is gaining ground state by state. We do it here in GA.
The primary process is something (as I understand it) controlled by the national party. And I’m all for wresting control of the process away from the national party if they won’t reform it. Just have no idea how.
Amen. Another reason to not vote for Mittens.
first, we get Obama out of office with a Republican, regardless. Then, take control of the Senate and get more seats in the House with the right people. The right people is the key. Then we have to control our states. . . .
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Ding, Ding, Ding
YES!
I wish I were king for a day, I can guarantee I would be better (in my opinion) than Mitt Romney, but then again I would not work hard every day for four years just to get a job that will make half of the country hate me.
I have learned with this election cycle that being president takes preparation. I think Marxist have been preparing for Obama to be president since he was born. McCain won the nomination because he was working on it for a long time and people owed him favors, I think Mitt learned that when he ran in 2008. The same thing happened to Ronald Reagan. He lost the first time around but learned that he had to work for fours prior to the nomination to have a chance at winning. If you want to be president you have to really want it badly, you have to be willing to give up everything else in your life to be able to have a chance at it. Thank Heavens Reagan learned this, are there any other conservatives who can learn it and do it?
If after a few months all you can do is complain that the other candidates cheated, had too much money or better press then you weren’t really ready.
We need a conservative who can learn the lessons that Romney learned. I wish Michelle Bachman would have done all the things that Mitt Romney did to win the nomination.
I don’t care for Mitt Romney only because he is too close to the center. I want someone so far to the right that the press will make fun of him. I want someone who loves the Constitution and loves to say he loves it and would do anything to protect it, all of it. While I don’t care much for Romney I do admire his hard work, organization and ability to raise money. I believe he will win the general. I hope he is not afraid to run to the right. I hope he has learned the things he has said he has learned in recent years about conservatism. I hope he is willing to promote my rights in the Bill of Rights.
If Michelle Bachman, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin or Rick Santorum really want to be president then they need to start NOW for the 2016 or maybe 2020 race. I kind of wonder if that is what Palin is doing. Yes, it means hard work, it means money and it means you may get nothing for your hard work and money but if you don’t do it this way you won’t win the nomination.
I will vote Republican in the general this cycle, I am a Republican. I voted for both Bush’s and wasn’t crazy about either but you don’t always have the opportunity to vote for someone you are crazy about. I really couldn’t stand McCain and I voted for him. What we need to do is move the RINO’s out of the party or at least make them the minority and make them hold their noses when they have to vote for a Palin or Bachman.
Not just for now, today, until the election but from now on.
And as per usual it is just a small item that makes the entire situation clear.
From the article "Timing of Gingrich exit from GOP race has observers scratching their heads" in The Hill...
It’s unclear the role Gingrich will be able to play, especially after alienating much of the Republican establishment by overstaying his welcome in the presidential race.
What needs to be corrected is the republican establishment's concept that we accept what they want.
They work for us, the voters, NOT the other way around.
Yesterday, I saw a post, don't remember from who, regarding the Primary process. Basically it said the TEA Party and conservatives need to have a general and binding "primary" of their own to rank, vet and select from all potential candidates whom they will (and will not) support.
This needs to be done BEFORE any of the other primaries.
With that information the gopees can then proceed at their own risk.
The primary goal is to get the conservative base on the same team with the best candidate. Yes that is a tough job but it is where we consistently fall short.
If the gopees try to go with a candidate that got a failed rank, they have no one to cry to except themselves. They MUST start responding to the will of the conservative base, or that conservative base will be GONE.
No more McCains. This Republic is on the verge of being lost to communism FROM BOTH PARTIES.
.BR
Regardless of which Republican gets elected, I hope they understand that they have the opportunity to become one of the most important Presidents in our recent history. If they are concerned about their legacy, then this is their chance to go down in history as the President that turned our country around for the better.
If Mutt wins, change '4' to '8'. Effective change may well be impossible by that point.
Of course, there would be an election in four years but Mutt couldn’t be primaried from the Right. It would be eight years before we could have any chance of restoring the Republican Party to its proper foundation, and by that time Mutt would control the party apparatchiks as a sitting President.
Bleak. Very bleak.
Regardless of which Republican gets elected, I hope they understand that they have the opportunity to become one of the most important Presidents in our recent history. If they are concerned about their legacy, then this is their chance to go down in history as the President that turned our country around for the better. . . .
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You are correct, at least I agree with this. My fear is that Mitt Romney won’t understand how important it is to turn back from the cliff of Communism we are so quickly approaching.
Romney is a Mormon. The Mormons I know are all about being responsible for themselves, they believe that God established this country and approved of Capitalism and representative government. Mormons don’t believe people should be looking to the government for a handout. They believe that people should look to themselves and their families if they can’t. I don’t want Mitt Romney to govern as a Mormon but I do hope he will be conservative.
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