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Don't spin the Civil War
Washington Post ^ | 12.27.10 | E.J. DIONNE jR.

Posted on 12/27/2010 10:31:54 AM PST by trumandogz

The Civil War is about to loom very large in the popular memory. We would do well to be candid about its causes and not allow the distortions of contemporary politics or long-standing myths to cloud our understanding of why the nation fell apart.

The coming year will mark the 150th anniversary of the onset of the conflict, which is usually dated to April 12, 1861, when Confederate batteries opened fire at 4:30 a.m. on federal troops occupying Fort Sumter. Union forces surrendered the next day, after 34 hours of shelling.

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To: NucSubs
Yeah, and the native guard were so reviled and rejected by their “countrymen” that they jumped at the chance to join the USA forces after the Union occupation of New Orleans.

I've read that only about 20% of those in the Confederate Native Guards joined the Union forces. Of course, bunches of those who joined the Union army later resigned. I guess they didn't like their new Northern masters and how they were treated. See: Link.

561 posted on 12/29/2010 9:11:50 AM PST by rustbucket
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To: rustbucket

Yawn.

You totally missed the point of my response and the original post I was responding to.


562 posted on 12/29/2010 9:29:03 AM PST by NucSubs
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To: NucSubs

Why don’t you enlighten me about what point you were trying to make.


563 posted on 12/29/2010 9:33:22 AM PST by rustbucket
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To: Repeal The 17th

“An interesting discussion with true-man-dog can be found here:”

What is your obsession with my postings?


564 posted on 12/29/2010 9:36:36 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

He ran out of arguments and must, by necessity, resort to insults.


565 posted on 12/29/2010 9:40:41 AM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: sergeantdave; LucyT; Las Vegas Ron; Red Steel; southernsunshine; mstar; little jeremiah; manc; ...

Drennan Whyte is Non Sequitur. Non Sequitur is Drennan Whyte.
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WELL DONE! Indeed, NON-SEQUITUR=DRENNAN WHYTE AND DRENNAN WHYTE=NON-SEQUITUR. Current posting and past seals the deal.

He or she is back! The reason truman posted this thread was probably was to test the waters. See if NS could post and if anyone would notice. Did anyone believe that NS could survive without FR? Once a troll, always a troll.


566 posted on 12/29/2010 9:47:33 AM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: mac_truck

LOL, sorry your troll pal was busted so fast?


567 posted on 12/29/2010 9:48:32 AM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: Drennan Whyte

I can. Truman is not NS, YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


568 posted on 12/29/2010 9:51:02 AM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: mojitojoe; Jim Robinson; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; wintertime; Fred Nerks; ...
Ping.

Drennan Whyte is Non Sequitur. Non Sequitur is Drennan Whyte.

Retread (trash/ troll/ slime) alert.

Check out # 566.

569 posted on 12/29/2010 10:10:09 AM PST by LucyT
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To: mojitojoe

We could call him Drennan-Sequitur or Non-Whythe?


570 posted on 12/29/2010 10:30:57 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: mojitojoe; sergeantdave; LucyT

Thanks for the pings. I think you’re right.
Huge gaps [years] in its posting history.


571 posted on 12/29/2010 10:32:49 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: trumandogz
And now that there's the hint of blood in the water the zombies are restless and your thread is scuttled. Pity, I was rather enjoying it.


572 posted on 12/29/2010 10:41:30 AM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: trumandogz
Austin is where I went to school, where I met my wife, where my kids were born and the city that provides good work opportunities for my wife and I.

five minutes from Barton Springs pool where the water is always 69 degrees and almost always has dozens upon dozens of UT co-eds who elect to go topless.


and don't you sound like a real winner of a husband and father
573 posted on 12/29/2010 10:46:50 AM PST by mstar (Immediate State Action)
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To: mstar

It is always a family event at the Springs.


574 posted on 12/29/2010 10:57:55 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: AnalogReigns
If Lincoln had stayed his hand though...

If Lincoln had stayed HIS hand? If memory serves it was the Confederacy who fired on Fort Sumter and initiated the war.

...I think something would of worked out in ten or twenty years at most, which would brought a re-union, AND ended slavery in the South WITHOUT over 1/2 Million dead...

So what, in your opinion, would have caused the Confederacy to pack it in, give up their independence, and go groveling back to the U.S.? I'm curious as to what that might be.

575 posted on 12/29/2010 11:04:36 AM PST by Drennan Whyte
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To: onyx; LucyT; Las Vegas Ron; Candor7; mstar; manc; little jeremiah; Beckwith; Red Steel; ...

Not only the huge gaps onyx but the posts themselves. I think everyone knew he would be back, what we don’t know is how many other names he as and how many IP addresses. He even used his other name to bump his own vanity thread. Guess he was embarrassed at the low response to it.lol How lame.

Kansas- check
adopted a child-check
Navy(or so he says)-check
Palin basher-check
pro homo in the military-check
CW Southern hater- check

It’s him, no doubt about it. Links to past posts:

12/21 4:30 PM NS zotted
12/22 began posting at 5:46 PM under the name Drennan Whyte

Defending homos in the military with his other name
Marine speaks up for freedom from [homosexual] discrimination
Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:10:34 AM • 25 of 37
Drennan Whyte to 2dogjoe
What a disgrace to the uniform.
So what makes him the disgrace? His 13 years service? The fact he lost a leg in Iraq? Or his nerve at expressing an opinion you disagree with?

“I was on the Kennedy back in the mid-70’s when we did a post-overhaul high speed run. We hit 35.5 knots, but that was light - no airwing or anything like that. Fully loaded the Enterprise is probably a little slower.”

“Actually seven years ago I thought that a Republican President and a Republican Congress would control spending. Silly me.”

NS always says “silly me”
Palin Hand Crib Notes Attract Scrutiny
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 8:45:59 AM • 47 of 64
Drennan Whyte to TrueFact
I love that she was obvious about it because it gives another chance for the petty MSM to look foolish. Seen any MSM reporting yet on the SUBSTANCE of her speech? I haven’t.
A bush-league error like this takes away from the substance of the speech.
Palin Hand Crib Notes Attract Scrutiny
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 8:29:58 AM • 43 of 64
Drennan Whyte to mware
Absolutely nothing wrong with a few crib notes, especially one word notes to make sure you touch on the topic.
But the notes were on taxes, spending, energy and lifting up America. Three of those are core conservative values and the fourth if obviously going to be her campaign theme. Why would she need notes to remember those during a Q&A?
I passed by a serviceman’s funeral...(Shameless vanity on my part)
Monday, August 13, 2007 4:31:58 PM • 30 of 38
Drennan Whyte
bump for later
(See the above, bumps his own vanity)
Marine speaks up for freedom from [homosexual] discrimination
Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:10:34 AM • 25 of 37
Drennan Whyte to 2dogjoe
What a disgrace to the uniform.
So what makes him the disgrace? His 13 years service? The fact he lost a leg in Iraq? Or his nerve at expressing an opinion you disagree with?

Adopt Away! Fifteen to consider adoption. (Funny)
Monday, November 29, 2004 4:50:47 PM • 2 of 14
Drennan Whyte to rightalien
As an adoptive father, my one claim to fame is that I am the only man I know who told his wife they were going to have a baby.
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• Facts and Myths - an examination of McPherson’s “Causes of the Civil War” essay
Saturday, August 10, 2002 12:23:52 PM • 82 of 543
Drennan Whyte to dtel
Again, I’m not interested in kissing any part of your anatomy and I would like to know where I ever suggested that all Southerners are racists. I think you’re being too defensive and finding slurs where there are none.

FReeper names explained
Saturday, January 19, 2002 6:02:58 AM • 542 of 1,212
Drennan Whyte to Come get it
Drennan Elliot Whyte IV
That’s my name. Don’t wear it out.

Drennan Whytes first post under this name
• All Sprint Calls to Israel Listed as to “Palistine”
Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:17:28 PM • 29 of 34
Drennan Whyte to Nachum
I suppose that it would depend on the destination of the call and the article doesn’t say. If the person was calling Tel Aviv or Haifa then I imagine that they would have a complaint. If the call was destined for a city or a settlement in the occupied territories then what are they supposed to call it?
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To: Nachum Media2Powerful rebdov
I work for Sprint and for what it’s worth this is an urban legend that all long distance companies have been fighting for several years. If you place a long distance call to Israel I guarantee you that it will say Israel on your bill. I believe that a call placed to the occupied territories will say Israel as well since it probably passes through the Israeli telephone system.

23 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/516737/posts

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• WSJ: Kansas as No. 1 (leads the Pacific Research Institute’s U.S. Economic Freedom Index)
Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:07:21 AM • 18 of 29
Drennan Whyte to Kerfuffle
So howcum Kansans aren’t the richest citizens per capita in the US?
Cuz we don’t need so high an income to pay all those taxes, that’s why.

BUSTED!


576 posted on 12/29/2010 11:11:30 AM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: mojitojoe; Drennan Whyte; Non-Sequitur

Drennan Whyte/Non-Sequitur = BUSTED - you’re a dishonest troll, too.


577 posted on 12/29/2010 11:21:29 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: sergeantdave

Drennan Non-Life.


578 posted on 12/29/2010 11:35:22 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: onyx; mojitojoe

You da man. I have had suspicions for a long time myself.


579 posted on 12/29/2010 11:35:37 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: mojitojoe

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23 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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Da-yum he’s been around a loooooong time!


580 posted on 12/29/2010 11:51:52 AM PST by Repeal The 17th
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