Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link

orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

[rxsid]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)

[Brown Deer]

There should be some evidence somewhere as to where she earned them.

You must have missed it. I suggest you start with... the University of Hawaii.

[Fantasywriter]

I forgot to thank you for your honesty. It’s beginning to look as if there is zero evidence to support SADO earning credits anywhere else. Some actual evidence really should have surfaced by now.

Or perhaps someone on the thread does have actual evidence, & hasn’t commented yet. So far, nothing.

[Brown Deer]

It’s beginning to look as if there is zero evidence to support SADO earning credits anywhere else.

[David]

Let me rephrase my question. If the transcripts are fake, where & when did SADO earn enough credits for a BA from the UoHI?

Absent a formal transcript from the University of Hawaii, you cannot be certain; however she started in March, 1963 and went year around until July 1966--three and a third calendar years which if she was in school full time, would be more than sufficient to get BA credits at the Universities I know anything about.

Further, although she ended attendance in class in July 66, she didn't get her degree until a year later--no explanation for why.

And still further, it is not unreasonable to believe that she in fact started school on a combined degree program at the University of Chicago and did at least one academic year in the process.

No evidence however that she ever got any academic credit for the claimed University of Washington period or for the claimed 1960 Russian class period at Hawaii.

[Fantasywriter]

According to Jerome Corsi, SADO’s transcript includes classes taken at the UoWA. He notes that the UoWA registrar confirmed her attendance at the classes, & the credits earned.

[Fred Nerks]

...I believe there was only one girl, the Ann in the Hawaii Polk is the same lady as the Anna in the Seattle Polk.

Good for you. You live in the US of A where for the time being, you are still able to think what you like.

[Fred Nerks]

... when he married Anna, Madelyn wasn’t yet a grandmother, nor was Anna, so why would anybody call either of them Toot (or Tut)?

They knew they had a problem with the name Anna Toot, and that problem was that someone from the Clan would remember the name. The kenyan wrote letters home, and Onynago, who was the only one who could read, read them out to the members of the family. While Zeituni was still a young girl, she recalls the letter he wrote to tell his father that he had a son, and that's why she was able to say, 'how dare you say say the boy wasn't born in the US of A'? (We just haven't been able to get it across who that son was. It wasn't zero. That son appears to have been the dark boy the kenyan took back to Kenya with him. The boy that was the subject of the 'adoption memo' - the child Mary babysat in January 1961.)

It was an oral culture, they were all taught to remember what they heard, word for word. It was a tradition which could not be ignored. The name Anna Toot or something similar was out there, and had to be written into the story...and thus, this is what you read in 'Dreams':

EXCERPT:

“Well, this particular time they arrived in one piece, and they got out and stood at the railing to admire the view. And Barack, he was puffing away on this pipe that I’d given him for his birthday, pointing out all the sights with the stem, like a sea captain-” “Your father was really proud of this pipe,” my mother interrupts again. “He’d smoke it all night while he studied, and sometimes-”

“Look, Ann, do you want to tell the story or are you going to let me finish?” “Sorry, Dad. Go ahead.” “Anyway, this poor fella-he was another African student, wasn’t he? Fresh off the boat. This poor kid must’ve been impressed with the way Barack was holding forth with this pipe, ’cause he asked if he could give it a try. Your dad thought about it for a minute, and finally agreed, and as soon as the fella took his first puff, he started coughing up a fit. Coughed so hard that the pipe slipped out of his hand and dropped over the railing, a hundred feet down the face of the cliff.” Gramps stops to take another nip from his flask before continuing. “Well, now, your dad was gracious enough to wait until his friend stopped coughing before he told him to climb over the railing and bring the pipe back. The man took one peek down this ninety-degree incline and told Barack that he’d buy him a replacement-” “Quite sensibly,” Toot says from the kitchen. (We call my grandmother Tutu, Toot for short; it means “grandparent” in Hawaiian, for she decided on the day I was born that she was still too young to be called Granny.) Gramps scowls but decides to ignore her.

“-but Barack was adamant about getting his pipe back, because it was a gift and couldn’t be replaced. So the fella took another look, and shook his head again, and that’s when your dad picked him clear off the ground and started dangling him over the railing!” Gramps lets out a hoot and gives his knee a jovial slap. As he laughs, I imagine myself looking up at my father, dark against the brilliant sun, the transgressor’s arms flailing about as he’s held aloft. A fearsome vision of justice. “He wasn’t really holding him over the railing, Dad,” my mother says, looking to me with concern, but Gramps takes another sip of whiskey and plows forward. “At this point, other people were starting to stare, and your mother was begging Barack to stop. I guess Barack’s friend was just holding his breath and saying his prayers. Anyway, after a couple of minutes, your dad set the man back down on his feet, patted him on the back, and suggested, calm as you please, that they all go find themselves a beer. And don’t you know, that’s how your dad acted for the rest of the tour-like nothing happened. Of course, your mother was still pretty upset when they got home. In fact, she was barely talking to your dad. Barack wasn’t helping matters any, either, ’cause when your mother tried to tell us what had happened he just shook his head and started to laugh.

‘Relax, Anna,’ he said to her-your dad had this deep baritone, see, and this British accent.” My grandfather tucks his chin into his neck at this point, to capture the full effect. “ ‘Relax, Anna,’ he said. ‘I only wanted to teach the chap a lesson about the proper care of other people’s property!’ ”

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The entire story is not worth the telling, it's boring, it's nothing but the author's contrivance to introduce the names ANN, ANNA and TOOT into your head. I've never understood why nobody saw through that.

Traces of Anna remain. No matter how often they tried to turn her into Stanley Ann Dunham. And traces of Anna's child also remain...he's probably the Barack Hussein Obama 11 that you find listed on the undated Hawaii birth Index. IMO.

[David]

According to Jerome Corsi, SADO’s transcript includes classes taken at the UoWA. He notes that the UoWA registrar confirmed her attendance at the classes, & the credits earned.

I think that is outdated--I don't think Jerry thinks that any more.

[Fantasywriter]

Link?

[Seizethecarp]

“Traces of Anna remain. No matter how often they tried to turn her into Stanley Ann Dunham. And traces of Anna’s child also remain...he’s probably the Barack Hussein Obama 11 that you find listed on the undated Hawaii birth Index. IMO.”

All:

In case any FReepers actually have been masochistic enough to make it this far in the thread and are scratching their heads wondering what Fred Nerks is talking about, here is the short version of Mal-Val Narrative at for link immediately below:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2913366/posts?q=1&;page=1#1

In the Mal-Val narrative (MVN) (follow me, this is delusional) Stanley Ann Dunham never set foot in Hawaii until 1963 when she took up baby-sitting duties as the pretend mother of the son of Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf.

In the MVN, the Anna Obama in Seattle at the Polk address was a different secret wife of BHO Sr. of Asian ancestry (Filipina is a favorite guess) who birthed the ORIGINAL BHO II but in late 1960.

In the MVN, Mary Toutonghi (a distant cousin by marriage of alleged mom Valerie Sarruf) says that at the time she babysat what she thought was Baby Barry, her own baby was 18 months old. Records show that would place the babysitting episode in January 1961, not January 1962, but the mom was NOT Stanley Ann, but Anna Obama the secret wife.

In the MVN it is THAT secret wife, Anna Obama who was in the Hawaii Polk at the same address as Stanley Ann’s parents, and is NOT Stanley Ann (even though Polk says it was Ann S. Dunham who was there).

[Fantasywriter]

The UoHI says SADO attended the fall semester there in ‘60, & credits her w the classes she attended toward her BA. [I’m sure you’re aware of this, but I just got through looking at the letter Stuart Lau, Registrar of the UoHI, sent to Corsi. There simply doesn’t appear to be any actual *evidence* for her having done her first freshmen semester at a later date. If anyone has such evidence, not sure why they’re holding back; why not go ahead & post it?]

[Fred Nerks]

...(even though Polk says it was Ann S. Dunham who was there).

And now let's give credit to freeper ladysforest who actually on her own dime and in her own time went to Hawaii and supplied the above:

She writes about it here -

HEY BUDDY, WANT TO SEE MY POLK?

So while the armchair critics find nothing better to do than denigrate and spittle all over these pages, there are good freepers who get off their butt...so I'll repeat what I wrote many times before, the Dunhams appear to have shared the house with the employer of Stanley Armour, and someone known as Ann S Obama who was a student.

And in late 2008 or early 2009, Charlette Le Fevre discovered the listing for ANNA OBAMA in the Seattle directory - the caption isn't mine. Charlette maintains she found the one and only 1961 directory in the library and no one has been able to find it since, iirc.

Want more? A fellow by the name of Tony Nugent, who attended Mercer Island High School Class of 1958, then supplied the Reverse Directory listing, and posted it on the History Page, along with an image of Stanley Ann Dunham's 'graduation' image:

SEATTLE HISTORY LINK

AND DARN. WOULDN'T YOU KNOW IT, THE ARTICLE HAS GONE!

[David]

Link?

No. Private communication. Feel free to write WND and ask them.

[Fred Nerks]

The directory image posted by Tony Nugent, from another source:

And I imagine that's how Charlette found Mary. One Google would have brought up the interview with Mary in Alaska, in September 2008 at which time Mary knew nothing about zero:

SIGN OF THE TIMES - CLICK FOR ARTICLE

[Fantasywriter]

Corsi has written & published on the subject, saying SADO went to Seattle for the fall term in ‘61. He gives no indication anywhere of having changed his mind. You have no link to support your claim that he changed his mind. If Corsi shifted that significantly in his thinking, why on earth wd he not publish an update to his earlier findings?

[Fred Nerks]

Armchair critics. Childish, peevish, never lifted a finger, never bothered to read an article or absorb any history, and quite capable of ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

If you ask her nicely, she’ll pray for you. She prays for me, and I don’t need it nor did I ask for it. Lord, save from from hypocrites.

Concerned freepers all seem to live in ‘Dreams From My Father’ and I’m wondering why that might be.

[Fantasywriter]

W 118th St.

[Fred Nerks]

And what is that supposed to mean?

[Fantasywriter]

LOL!!

[Seizethecarp]

“...the Dunhams appear to have shared the house with the employer of Stanley Armour, and someone known as Ann S Obama who was a student.”

Yes, my memory of off when I recalled that the name Add S. Dunham was used in the Polk at that address. I stand corrected.

However, it is the verifiable and admissible INS FOIA documents that can prove in court that on August 31, 1961, BHO Sr. named Ann S. DUNHAM (Get it?) as his spouse IN HIS OWN HAND (page 35).

In the accompanying notes by William F. Wood II on that same date, BHO Sr. is recorded as claiming that his wife, and baby named Barack Obama II were living with her parents, the same wife he had named as Ann S. DUNHAM of the form he just signed.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/59560239/FOIA-Release-Records-Relating-to-Barry-Soetoro-Stanley-Ann-Dunham-Barack-Obama-Sr-Lolo-Soetoro-Department-of-Homeland-Security

The verifiable (provable in court) evidence in the INS FOIA documents destroys the totally delusional claims that there was a different Ann S. Obama with a different baby at the same address with the Dunhams.